> On Monday 26 Feb 2007 23:01, Bengt Gördén wrote:
>> måndag 26 februari 2007 23:33 skrev Chris Cannam:
>> > I do instantly take a dislike to projects that start up saying
>> > their ambition is to clone some commercial app directly for Linux.
>> > But that's another argument (that I seem to remember having on LAD
>> > once before, and will have again in the pub with anyone, any day).
>>
>> Well you're on. I've got no problem discussing that topic. It's not
>> commercial app that is the problem. It's the closed source that is.
>
> Yes, I should have said closed source or proprietary. Not that it makes
> much difference in this context, as all the commercial audio apps are
> proprietary and there are few proprietary non-commercial audio apps
> that are substantial enough to inspire projects to clone them.
>
> It's not that I wouldn't prefer they were free software; it's that
> setting out to clone an existing program, especially in the field of
> art or entertainment, is a misapplication of your own creative energy.
>
> Here's the earlier flam^H^H^H^Hargument. I don't have much to add.
> http://www.music.columbia.edu/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2006-February/01474…
>
> It's really a five pints in the pub discussion.
I couldn't agree more. The strength, and the exciting nature of free
software as I see it, is that it can do things closed source software
can't, or won't do - due to the rules of ownership or commercial pressure.
The problem is that the drive to _use_ free software can come just for
cost or political reasons, rather than simply finding an application that
does the job better - and these people want to see equivalents of things
they'd otherwise have to pay for.
I suppose a big problem is the OS divide - if there was only one, users
would be able to mix and match free or costly apps easier. Everyone talks
about choice, but it's restricted either way currently.
cheers,
dave
hallo everybody out there :)
I'm here again to annonce a pair of new "musical" xperiments, this
time a pair of strong & subterranean hip hop beats, a strange cross
between the hip hop & the electronica, like my other ones, but these
ones I think they are a bit more sinister
I've used some freesounds 4 the production, but the samples have been
almost all them created by myself... i'ts another work of my already
known "dogma sound" series, u know, no time fx; I like very much to
work with the dry sound because I like the purity of the glitches :)
u can take a look to the link below and download them if u are a hip hop lover:
http://perlssdj.blogspot.com/2007/02/problems-new-hip-hop-experiments-4-u.h…
I just can say I hope u like it, I've made them with a lot of love,
like always :)
thanks by reading this post... Linux is the truth ;)
B happy!
PerlssDj
--
... subliminal stuff at http://perlssdj.blogspot.com ...
> > Am Montag, den 26.02.2007, 19:23 +0100 schrieb e:
> > > When I start Ardour it always comes up in 48k,even when I start jack in
> > > 44100.
> >
> > Ardour doesn't "start" with a specific sample rate. Rather, it uses the
> > sample rate of the current session (which it deduces form the source
> > samples used). Then, it tries to connect to jack, which -- of course
> > will be only successfull, if there is a jackd with the correct sample
> > rate currently running).
>
> this is not correct. ardour has no concept of "session sample rate" at
> all. it connects to JACK at whatever rate JACK is running at
Thanx4dareplies,but it doesn't really help me out here.Of course I know Ardour
uses the samplerate jack is started at,but as I stated in my initial post(do
it all over again):no matter how I start jack,Ardour keeps using 48k.Whether
I start a new session or an existing one it says:this session will use 48k.
Frustration may lurk sometimes ,but (especially,hopefully
momentarily )mr.Davis,thank you for the incredible effort that has gotten me
this far.I'm (not only)in your debt.
Sincerely,Enrico.
> > Am Montag, den 26.02.2007, 19:23 +0100 schrieb e:
> > > When I start Ardour it always comes up in 48k,even when I start jack in
> > > 44100.
> >
> > Ardour doesn't "start" with a specific sample rate. Rather, it uses the
> > sample rate of the current session (which it deduces form the source
> > samples used). Then, it tries to connect to jack, which -- of course
> > will be only successfull, if there is a jackd with the correct sample
> > rate currently running).
>
> this is not correct. ardour has no concept of "session sample rate" at
> all. it connects to JACK at whatever rate JACK is running at
Thanx4dareplies,but it doesn't really help me out here.Of course I know Ardour
uses the samplerate jack is started at,but as I stated in my initial post(do
it all over again):no matter how I start jack,Ardour keeps using 48k.Whether
I start a new session or an existing one it says:this session will use 48k.
Frustration may lurk sometimes ,but (especially,hopefully
momentarily )mr.Davis,thank you for the incredible effort that has gotten me
this far.I'm (not only)in your debt.
Sincerely,Enrico.
All the arguments against this thing? OK.
Yes, most all projects can use more people (whether their maintainers think so
or not), but this should not be an argument against JOST.
Jack-fst is a bridge for windows VSTs. Works for many of them. Problem with
individual jack-clients is that this approach can bog down older systems like
my old clunker. I cannot begin to use things like Jamin.
Doing this in JUCE is great and evolving into a Tracktion-like app would be
fantastic. However, I think that being able to tap in to the wealth of
windows VSTs may be more useful than hoping for more Linux ones (and why not
use both?).
I say, keep up the good work, on the greater and greater things!
Hi all!
When I start Ardour it always comes up in 48k,even when I start jack in 44100.
(jackd -v -R -dalsa -d:hw0 -r 44100).It doesn't matter if I start jack
manualy or via qjackcontrol with the appropriate settings.It also doesn't
matter if I'm root or my grandmother.The same thing happens in Kubuntu 6.06
as well in 64studio.I've never encountered this before&I'm using these lovely
apps for years now,with the exception that I used to compile everything
myself and used Slackware.What am I missing here?
The version of Ardour is 0.99.2
Jack says:
e@e-laptop:~$ sudo jackd -R -dalsa -r 44100
jackd 0.100.0
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 44100
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
Note: audio device hw:0 doesn't support a 32bit sample format so JACK will try
a 24bit format instead
Note: audio device hw:0 doesn't support a 24bit sample format so JACK will try
a 16bit format instead
nperiods = 2 for capture
nperiods = 2 for playback
After this Ardour starts in 48kHz???
Grtz&TIA,Enrico.
Aqualung 0.9beta7.1 has been released. This is an update to our
recent 0.9beta7 release, containing some important fixes to bugs
that were found as a result of the greater user coverage after the
release of 0.9beta7.
Aqualung is a cross-platform music player with lots of features.
Homepage: http://aqualung.sf.net
(we are unable to update it ATM because of a several days long
SF.net shell outage, but the SF.net project page has the latest
downloadable files available).
The ChangeLog is attached below.
Tom
2007-02-18 Tom Szilagyi <tszilagyi at users dot sourceforge dot net>
* Aqualung 0.9beta7.1
http://aqualung.sf.net
This is a bugfix release, for some important fixes that were found
due to the greater user coverage after the beta7 release.
* Fixed drag and drop from external applications.
* Remove selected tracks and invert selection in Playlist are now
fast (optimized and improved).
* Shortcut 'A' (show active song) in Playlist window doesn't interfere
with CTRL+A (select all).
* Added checks for NULL pointers as a workaround for a TagLib bug.
* Added native WavPack decoder contributed by Maarten Maathuis.
Dear all,
thanks to many submissions from yourselves, we have been able to create an
extensive program for the Linux Audio Conference in Berlin in March,
featuring many paper presentations, tutorials, workshops and demos, and not
to forget concerts on each night of the conference.
(btw, if you still have some linux-made songs you would like to send in for
the Radio music, feel free to do so; there are no restrictions on genre
there, and we especially created that category to give a place for linux-made
recordings).
Below is the press release.
Hope to see you all in Berlin!
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The 5th Linux Audio Conference is taking place in Berlin (Germany) in 2007.
The TU-Berlin is hosting the conference in cooperation with people of the
Humboldt University Berlin, the Berliner Künstlerprogramm of the DAAD, the
festival MaerzMusik, the Instituto Cervantes Berlin and the Tesla Berlin.
The conference shows once per year important developments in the subject
making music with Linux and open source tools. Invited is everyone who is
interested in the possibilities of this platform.
The LAC is offering a wide range of workshops, tutorials and hands on demos.
There will be presentations on the subjects Computer Music, Music Production,
Drivers and Sound Architectures and Audio Distributions.
The LAC aims at bringing together developers and users of Linux and
open source audio software with the goal of information sharing, project
discussion and music.
Each day of the conference there is a concert which features music composed
and created with open source software. One of the highlights of the conference
is the demonstration of a auditorium of the TU-Berlin, that has been equipped
with a new spatialisation system (Wave Field Synthesis), driven by a
Linux-Cluster.
The program of the conference is now online and (free) registration is
possible.
Free admission to all events except to the concerts at the Tesla and the
MaerzMusik
LAC2007 22.3. to 25.3.2007, TU-Berlin, www.lac.tu-berlin.de
Hi!
I just submitted a new piece which should appear on
http://www.archive.org/details/aliethno
Started with a bunch of loops from my Cubase days. Some samples
from a freeware speech synth, don't remember the name.
Then there's a resonating watering can ...
Don't know what to think of it myself :)
--
Thorsten Wilms
Thorwil's Creature Illustrations:
http://www.printfection.com/thorwil
Hi all,
As discussed previously on this list, we are getting ready for a
migration of the three LA* lists to linuxaudio.org.
Many things are done to make our list better. One of them concerns
archives. As you may have noted, LA* archives found on
music.columbia.edu date back to 2002. Ico told me that there used to
be an LA list hosted somewhere else way before that (1998).
Having to do this migration, we will also migrate our archives. If
possible it would be cool to be able to merge also the older archives
in the whole.
The question is, do some of you have any idea where I could find these
archives, if they still exit...
Cheers,
__________________
Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.