Linux-audio-user August 2007

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which apps to choose for the job and how to set things up?

by Dominic Arsenault

Hey all, I just joined this mailing list as a new Linux convert :). I'm using Ubuntu Feisty and I've downloaded tons of stuff. I'm still trying to figure out how to get my music production under way. I make 8-Bit Metal music (www.myspace.com/8bitmetal), formerly using Windows. My process was the following: 1) Compose the song in MIDI (using Guitar Pro) 2) Transform the MIDI output in NES sounds using a VSTI (Triforce from Tweakbench) and record them (I used Fruity Loops to host the VSTI, imported my MIDI in it, and exported in WAV track-by-track) 3) Mix down the tracks and record electric guitar and vocals using a standard multitrack audio software (I was using Cool Edit Pro/Adobe Audition, but tried out Audacity in the end) I'm trying to do the same in Linux. So far step 3 is pretty much done. I've downloaded and installed the following: Tuxguitar (as Guitar Pro replacement) Rosegarden (for Fruity Loops) Audacity So far I have managed to set things up for composing MIDI in Tuxguitar and Rosegarden, and I can also record and edit audio without problem. The only thing I'm having a hard time with is passing my MIDI into a VSTI to get the NES sound output. I've got JACK properly set up and running, I've got Timidity++ for MIDI, my VSTI plugin, and I installed FreeST (FST) which can run the plugin properly, along with Lash. The only thing left is how to put all these things together to make them do what I want! Do I have to start my Jack server, launch the Timidity MIDI server, then run FST to open my VST plugin, then Rosegarden with my MIDI file? And then how should I set up the connections in Jack? I don't need to map my vsti to some "live" input (I don't want to hit notes on my keyboard and have them produce the VST sound), I just want to "export" a MIDI file through the VST's sound. Am I going the proper way about this, or is there something simpler I could do? Thanks a lot for reading this long post. :) Dominic

17 years, 4 months

Re: Jackmp - libjackdmp.so

by Stéphane Letz

> > Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen kirjoitti: >> Did you export LD_LIBRARY path in the shells where you started >> hydrogen >> and qsynth? >> >> > > No I did not yet, but I think it is not that easy. There is warning > about Hydrogen and Ardour: > > "The consequence of this change is that some very famous jack > applications (like Ardour or Hydrogen) get broken! A patch to have > Ardour2 working with this jackdmp version is available here: > ardour_patch.diff <http://www.grame.fr/%7Eletz/ardour_patch.diff>." > > http://www.grame.fr/~letz/jackdmp.html > > I'm not the developer so I think it is better for me just wait to > Jackdmp get mature and stable and be as easy to use like Jackd. > > Best regards Asmo Koskinen. > This is not the case in jackdmp SVN trunk !! This warning is related to a new "experimental" branch (that is a branch on jackdmp SVN repository...) that I would not recommend to use right now, and that is supposed to be tested by people comfortable with direct SVN access. The best is always to get the latest published version (0.63 for now). Stephane

17 years, 4 months

GPL Scoring/Engraving Programs

by David Baron

There was a thread on this a while back, the need for opensource or free/minimal cost alternatives to Sibelius and such on Linux. One can run Finale Notepad or various lower cost upgrades using Wine and this may be the best alternative if one can get the MIDI and printing working this way. For lack of a handy staffbook--and it is easier to simply grab a staffbook, a extra fine pen and a typex stick--I tried what I have on my Debian Sid box: Scoring: Notedit--KDE's scoring program will get the job done. Most functionality is there. Chord entry is very awkward and the ui needs more toolbar items. But it works and will export to most everything needed including abc which opens the door to many Windows and Linux programs that can print score, Lilypond, MusicTex and MusicML. Canorus--successor to Notedit. Too early for this one. Denemo--GUI for Lilypond. Too early for this one as well. Nice start but had to go back to Notedit to continue. Musescore/mscore--new boy on the block. Coming along nicely and will soon be the best around. Still work to be done, text field editing is nigh-impossible but this is the alternative to Finale and Sibelius to watch. Imported MusicML from Noteedit. MIDI keyboard to any of these is precarious at best. For printing (engraving when doing music): Lilypond--works well with its peculiarities. Not enough control of formatting when exporting from noteedit, et al. Denemo not ready so need to know its markup language to really use it well. It is supposed to be the standard. MusixTex--works nearly as well as Lilypond but does not handle UTF8, foreign characters out of the box. Musescore--one when sets the formatting parameters (not defaulted properly) produces very nice results. Its scoring is WYSIWYG once the formatting params are set up. Again, the one to watch.

17 years, 4 months

USB midi keyboard + accompaniment software

by Simon Williams

Sorry if any of this has been asked before- I can't find a search function for the archives of this mailing list. I'm thinking of buying an Evolution USB midi controller keyboard. Probably the MK361C or MK461. Please could someone confirm that this range of devices will work with Linux. If I get one with the programmable knobs and sliders are these usable with Linux? What could I use them for if they are? What could I use them for it they aren't? The plan is to hook it up to my laptop and a pair of speakers to save money and give myself more flexibility, instead of buying an all in one keyboard/synth. Is there any auto-accompaniment software for Linux? The sort of thing where I play a chord in the left hand and the drums/bass/whatever instruments generated by the software will then play that chord? I'm hoping that I can add a bunch of effects programs which can be controlled with the knobs and sliders on the top of the keyboard. At the very least I want to be able to mix instruments- i.e. the bass of the keyboard is a bass guitar and the treble is a piano and they fade together in the middle. I'd have thought this would be fairly easy to do. Any advice much appreciated. Thanks Simon

17 years, 4 months

opinions on Ubuntu Studio?

by Frank Pirrone

17 years, 4 months

RE: opinions on Ubuntu Studio?

by Paul DeShaw

Well, the install was easy, but nothing works, so... OK, I got media players like Totem and XMMS to put out sound. XMMS crashes when I try to use it with Jack. Rosegarden shows up in the JACK connect window, connected nicely to both alsa pcm and TiMidity, but there is no sound. I used to get it to work with the built-in sound on the motherboard, with JACK, but no more. KMID, Beast, Wired, all are silent. ZynAddSubFX makes noise intermittently through JACK. Right now I have Rosegarden up, to see if I could run it through ZynAddSubFX as the general MIDI device, but the GUI for Rosegarden has disappeared, though Rosegarden still shows up in the JACK connect window. I will restart the computer to try again, and report later. To be fair I have had no more success with 64 Studio, so maybe it's me and not the distro. I haven't tried Planet CCRMA (is that the correct name?), out of RPM phobia. I'm so used to apt and Debian's offspring. I'm not sure if it's something about the distro, or if my M-Audio Ozone is just never going to work under Linux, despite loading the madfuload firmware and setting the Ozone as the default sound card in asoundconf. It looks like a lot of people have been having trouble using this interface in Ubuntu Studio, but one guy said he had both audio AND MIDI working in Debian. But Googling M-audio ozone linux doesn't pull up any other success stories or fixes that work. Check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467&page=1 It goes on for 5 pages; I post as Aurora. If you are actually able to fix this in Ubuntu, I hope you'll post to that thread as well. The Ubuntu community needs you. --Paul in Seattle _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

17 years, 4 months

two new tracks

by Dave Phillips

Greetings, I've posted two new temporary tracks : http://linux-sound.org/audio/twisted.mp3 http://linux-sound.org/audio/dont_know_why.mp3 Both tracks feature Corin Marshall, a 17-year old singer who's been working with me for a few years. The first is the famous Wardell Gray tune "Twisted" (lyrics by Annie Ross), the second Norah Jones' popular song "Don't Know Why". The backing is mostly MIDI, but I'll replace those instruments with real ones as soon as possible. The vocal on Twisted is a composite from two takes, we'll probably re-do the whole thing, but I thought she did a pretty good job on a very difficult song. She did the other song in a single take, a very sweet rendition IMPO. Everything done in Ardour2 in 64Studio. Vast thanks to the developers and maintainers who make it all possible, you are gifts from the gods. Best, dp

17 years, 4 months

Music: a few songs I put up

by Nick Scheer

Hi all, I've put some songs up, and thought I'd share with the list. All pretty guitar-centric, done on my CCRMA Linux box via a Delta 66, and using Ardour, Hydrogen, Jamin, Zyn, etc.: http://nscheer.googlepages.com/songs2 Feedback very much welcomed, particularly regarding mixing/mastering, as I've been learning that end of things pretty much just by trial and error (primarily error). Thanks and hope you enjoy! --Nick

17 years, 4 months

Yet Another Success-story [tm]

by Arnold Krille

Hi all, this is yet another success story, stop reading here if you don't want to know about it. :-) I just came back from a gig where I used my laptop (with Presonus Firebox) as effect rack for FOH effects. It didn't really work in the rehearsal because my fw-port shares an interrupt with the wlan and the internal soundcard and the wlan was constantly seeking. For the gig I remembered to turn the wlan off and also unload the modules (wlan and internal soundcard) and as a result I got a stable system with 3x128@48k which run a pd-patch for about 6 hours without a single glitch, xrun or freeze. Congrats to all the developers concerned! Good night everybody, Arnold -- visit http://www.arnoldarts.de/ --- Hi, I am a .signature virus. Please copy me into your ~/.signature and send me to all your contacts. After a month or so log in as root and do a rm / -rf. Or ask your administrator to do so...

17 years, 4 months

Embedded linux board

by Florian Schmidt

Hi, i'm kinda sorta in a way planning to build my own effects box. And i'm looking around for embedded boards + cpu's + fpu's which would have the required performance to be able to run some "simple" effects like FreeVerb, some compressor etc (of course with low latency of 16 frames/perdiod or something).. Any hints/suggestions? Regards, Flo P.S.: I was looking at this baby: http://www.glomationinc.com/product_9302E.html For 65$ (ca. 50 euros) it looks lie a bargain, but it seems its FPU is supported by gcc only with a patch. And i'm also not sure how much processing power this MaverickCrunch has [FLOP numbers are hard to find].. -- Palimm Palimm! http://tapas.affenbande.org

17 years, 4 months

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Linux-audio-user August 2007