Hey all,
I just joined this mailing list as a new Linux convert :). I'm using
Ubuntu Feisty and I've downloaded tons of stuff. I'm still trying to
figure out how to get my music production under way. I make 8-Bit Metal
music (www.myspace.com/8bitmetal), formerly using Windows. My process
was the following:
1) Compose the song in MIDI (using Guitar Pro)
2) Transform the MIDI output in NES sounds using a VSTI (Triforce from
Tweakbench) and record them (I used Fruity Loops to host the VSTI,
imported my MIDI in it, and exported in WAV track-by-track)
3) Mix down the tracks and record electric guitar and vocals using a
standard multitrack audio software (I was using Cool Edit Pro/Adobe
Audition, but tried out Audacity in the end)
I'm trying to do the same in Linux. So far step 3 is pretty much done.
I've downloaded and installed the following:
Tuxguitar (as Guitar Pro replacement)
Rosegarden (for Fruity Loops)
Audacity
So far I have managed to set things up for composing MIDI in Tuxguitar
and Rosegarden, and I can also record and edit audio without problem.
The only thing I'm having a hard time with is passing my MIDI into a
VSTI to get the NES sound output. I've got JACK properly set up and
running, I've got Timidity++ for MIDI, my VSTI plugin, and I installed
FreeST (FST) which can run the plugin properly, along with Lash. The
only thing left is how to put all these things together to make them do
what I want!
Do I have to start my Jack server, launch the Timidity MIDI server, then
run FST to open my VST plugin, then Rosegarden with my MIDI file? And
then how should I set up the connections in Jack? I don't need to map
my vsti to some "live" input (I don't want to hit notes on my keyboard
and have them produce the VST sound), I just want to "export" a MIDI
file through the VST's sound. Am I going the proper way about this, or
is there something simpler I could do?
Thanks a lot for reading this long post. :)
Dominic
>
> Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen kirjoitti:
>> Did you export LD_LIBRARY path in the shells where you started
>> hydrogen
>> and qsynth?
>>
>>
>
> No I did not yet, but I think it is not that easy. There is warning
> about Hydrogen and Ardour:
>
> "The consequence of this change is that some very famous jack
> applications (like Ardour or Hydrogen) get broken! A patch to have
> Ardour2 working with this jackdmp version is available here:
> ardour_patch.diff <http://www.grame.fr/%7Eletz/ardour_patch.diff>."
>
> http://www.grame.fr/~letz/jackdmp.html
>
> I'm not the developer so I think it is better for me just wait to
> Jackdmp get mature and stable and be as easy to use like Jackd.
>
> Best regards Asmo Koskinen.
>
This is not the case in jackdmp SVN trunk !!
This warning is related to a new "experimental" branch (that is a
branch on jackdmp SVN repository...) that I would not recommend to
use right now, and that is supposed to be tested by people
comfortable with direct SVN access. The best is always to get the
latest published version (0.63 for now).
Stephane
There was a thread on this a while back, the need for opensource or
free/minimal cost alternatives to Sibelius and such on Linux.
One can run Finale Notepad or various lower cost upgrades using Wine and this
may be the best alternative if one can get the MIDI and printing working this
way.
For lack of a handy staffbook--and it is easier to simply grab a staffbook, a
extra fine pen and a typex stick--I tried what I have on my Debian Sid box:
Scoring:
Notedit--KDE's scoring program will get the job done. Most functionality is
there. Chord entry is very awkward and the ui needs more toolbar items. But
it works and will export to most everything needed including abc which opens
the door to many Windows and Linux programs that can print score, Lilypond,
MusicTex and MusicML.
Canorus--successor to Notedit. Too early for this one.
Denemo--GUI for Lilypond. Too early for this one as well. Nice start but had
to go back to Notedit to continue.
Musescore/mscore--new boy on the block. Coming along nicely and will soon be
the best around. Still work to be done, text field editing is nigh-impossible
but this is the alternative to Finale and Sibelius to watch. Imported MusicML
from Noteedit.
MIDI keyboard to any of these is precarious at best.
For printing (engraving when doing music):
Lilypond--works well with its peculiarities. Not enough control of formatting
when exporting from noteedit, et al. Denemo not ready so need to know its
markup language to really use it well. It is supposed to be the standard.
MusixTex--works nearly as well as Lilypond but does not handle UTF8, foreign
characters out of the box.
Musescore--one when sets the formatting parameters (not defaulted properly)
produces very nice results. Its scoring is WYSIWYG once the formatting params
are set up. Again, the one to watch.
Sorry if any of this has been asked before- I can't find a search
function for the archives of this mailing list.
I'm thinking of buying an Evolution USB midi controller keyboard.
Probably the MK361C or MK461.
Please could someone confirm that this range of devices will work with
Linux.
If I get one with the programmable knobs and sliders are these usable
with Linux? What could I use them for if they are? What could I use them
for it they aren't?
The plan is to hook it up to my laptop and a pair of speakers to save
money and give myself more flexibility, instead of buying an all in one
keyboard/synth.
Is there any auto-accompaniment software for Linux? The sort of thing
where I play a chord in the left hand and the drums/bass/whatever
instruments generated by the software will then play that chord?
I'm hoping that I can add a bunch of effects programs which can be
controlled with the knobs and sliders on the top of the keyboard.
At the very least I want to be able to mix instruments- i.e. the bass of
the keyboard is a bass guitar and the treble is a piano and they fade
together in the middle. I'd have thought this would be fairly easy to do.
Any advice much appreciated.
Thanks
Simon
Well, the install was easy, but nothing works, so...
OK, I got media players like Totem and XMMS to put out sound. XMMS crashes when I try to use it with Jack. Rosegarden shows up in the JACK connect window, connected nicely to both alsa pcm and TiMidity, but there is no sound. I used to get it to work with the built-in sound on the motherboard, with JACK, but no more. KMID, Beast, Wired, all are silent. ZynAddSubFX makes noise intermittently through JACK. Right now I have Rosegarden up, to see if I could run it through ZynAddSubFX as the general MIDI device, but the GUI for Rosegarden has disappeared, though Rosegarden still shows up in the JACK connect window. I will restart the computer to try again, and report later.
To be fair I have had no more success with 64 Studio, so maybe it's me and not the distro.
I haven't tried Planet CCRMA (is that the correct name?), out of RPM phobia. I'm so used to apt and Debian's offspring.
I'm not sure if it's something about the distro, or if my M-Audio Ozone is just never going to work under Linux, despite loading the madfuload firmware and setting the Ozone as the default sound card in asoundconf. It looks like a lot of people have been having trouble using this interface in Ubuntu Studio, but one guy said he had both audio AND MIDI working in Debian. But Googling M-audio ozone linux doesn't pull up any other success stories or fixes that work. Check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148467&page=1 It goes on for 5 pages; I post as Aurora.
If you are actually able to fix this in Ubuntu, I hope you'll post to that thread as well. The Ubuntu community needs you.
--Paul in Seattle
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Greetings,
I've posted two new temporary tracks :
http://linux-sound.org/audio/twisted.mp3http://linux-sound.org/audio/dont_know_why.mp3
Both tracks feature Corin Marshall, a 17-year old singer who's been
working with me for a few years. The first is the famous Wardell Gray
tune "Twisted" (lyrics by Annie Ross), the second Norah Jones' popular
song "Don't Know Why". The backing is mostly MIDI, but I'll replace
those instruments with real ones as soon as possible.
The vocal on Twisted is a composite from two takes, we'll probably re-do
the whole thing, but I thought she did a pretty good job on a very
difficult song. She did the other song in a single take, a very sweet
rendition IMPO.
Everything done in Ardour2 in 64Studio. Vast thanks to the developers
and maintainers who make it all possible, you are gifts from the gods.
Best,
dp
Hi all,
I've put some songs up, and thought I'd share with the list. All pretty
guitar-centric, done on my CCRMA Linux box via a Delta 66, and using Ardour,
Hydrogen, Jamin, Zyn, etc.:
http://nscheer.googlepages.com/songs2
Feedback very much welcomed, particularly regarding mixing/mastering, as
I've been learning that end of things pretty much just by trial and error
(primarily error).
Thanks and hope you enjoy!
--Nick
Hi all,
this is yet another success story, stop reading here if you don't want to know
about it. :-)
I just came back from a gig where I used my laptop (with Presonus Firebox) as
effect rack for FOH effects. It didn't really work in the rehearsal because
my fw-port shares an interrupt with the wlan and the internal soundcard and
the wlan was constantly seeking. For the gig I remembered to turn the wlan
off and also unload the modules (wlan and internal soundcard) and as a result
I got a stable system with 3x128@48k which run a pd-patch for about 6 hours
without a single glitch, xrun or freeze.
Congrats to all the developers concerned!
Good night everybody,
Arnold
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Hi,
i'm kinda sorta in a way planning to build my own effects box. And i'm looking
around for embedded boards + cpu's + fpu's which would have the required
performance to be able to run some "simple" effects like FreeVerb, some
compressor etc (of course with low latency of 16 frames/perdiod or
something)..
Any hints/suggestions?
Regards,
Flo
P.S.: I was looking at this baby:
http://www.glomationinc.com/product_9302E.html
For 65$ (ca. 50 euros) it looks lie a bargain, but it seems its FPU is
supported by gcc only with a patch. And i'm also not sure how much processing
power this MaverickCrunch has [FLOP numbers are hard to find]..
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