On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Al Thompson <biggles58(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Loki Davison <loki.davison(a)gmail.com>
> To: schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: Al Thompson <biggles58(a)sbcglobal.net>;
> Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [LAU] hardware: recording voice and acc. guitar
>
>>wow. This is so wrong it hurts... You say phantom power not possible
>>from a pci slot or computer power supply but with usb mixer? ARRG! USB
>>is a great way to plug in your mouse. For audio, go pci, or if you
>>can't got pci, firewire or pcmcia.
>>
>>10 channel in 14 out. and yes, to Al, ......... phantom power on both
>>mic pre's from a pci card! wow.... like standard... The linux mixer
>
> Just out of curiosity, where is the 48V coming from? There is no 48V
> available internally. There is 12V, if you want to limit yourself to AKG
> and Shure mics, but I wouldn't want to draw that much current from a
> computer supply.
>
>>usb = crap. Oh, just in case you missed it. I think usb is a bad choice.
>
> What's your dislike of USB? You can do 2x2 even over USB 1.1. Until the
> latest version of the Firewire standard, it couldn't hold a candle to USB.
>
>
> FYI - in my project studio, I use a pair of 1010 PCI cards (which also
> refuse to work simultaneously under Linux). I just thought the goal here
> was to find something inexpensive, versatile, easy to use, with lots of
> features (which is why I use a USB mixer at home). If the goal was to have
> many ins and outs, 192/96 AD/DAs, and lightpipes, I'd have suggested
> something different.
>
>
> Forget it, I guess my opinion's not welcome here.
>
>
>
Of course your opinion is welcome. It's just the fact that many pci
cards do phantom power fine and within spec for any phantom powered
mic. I can't see how usb has anything better for this. Usb for audio
has a pile of problems technically. It's latency is bad, channel count
is low and in that case it was more expensive than the option i
showed. The echo mixer and envy mixer apps for pci cards are also
really nice with good VU's and easy direct routing. I don't think at
any point even for laptops usb was the best solution as pcmcia layla's
etc exist. I'm sorry if I sounded like an arse though ;) I just had an
annoying usb card for a long time and get vengeful if i think about
it....
Loki
Quoting J M Needham <J.M.Needham(a)bath.ac.uk>:
> Intel-HDA I assume? Try 3 periods per buffer (obviously unlike every
> other
> card on the Earth and the moon). Works pretty well* with that on my
> toshiba with Intel HDA. Although I am looking for a good firewire card at
> the
> moment. Doesn't work with any powers of 2 almost at all (managed to
> start
> it with 2ppb once with 64 ms latency)
On my laptop (Dell D820), the card worked really well with a few driver
parameters, 3 periods and certain mixer settings (=selecting an input source
for capturing). Alas, this was with alsa 1.0.14 (or something). I'm
currently unable to run jackd with a newer version of alsa.
I'm not bothered by that though, it works well enough for youtube. I have a
real sound interface for serious work. I have done interesting measurements
with the card though. Like getting more noise on the inputs with mixer
levels at 0 than with raising the mixer levels just a bit above it. That and
the AD unit totally misbehaving when running in 192kHz.
Sampo
hi
i am going to buy a Firewire card, probably FA-66 or FA101 but i also
need a PCMCIA card for my laptop and i knwo that some cards are better
than others, which ones should i avoid and what is the absolut
preferred card to buy?
Thanks
Simone
--
.wmv , .wma , .pps along with all proprietary Windows formats won t be
accepted and/or viewed....
Radio Recommendation
For those interested in Linux Audio, Pd, SuperCollider, .... It's in
German, though. Streaming info: http://www.dradio.de/streaming/ The
HQ-Ogg-stream is the best:
http://www.dradio.de/streaming/dkultur_hq_ogg.m3u
Deutschlandradio Kultur - Neue Musik - 03.06.2008 - 00:05 CEST(!)
Musik aus dem digitalen Baukasten
Die Linux Audio Conference 2008 in Köln
Von Hubert Steins
Computer sind erschwingliche, universelle Musikmaschinen. Doch die
vermeintliche Freiheit trügt, denn Softwaregiganten wie Microsoft und
Apple dominieren das Innenleben auch der Musikrechner. Künstlerische
Autonomie erfordert aber Kontrolle über die Produktionsmittel, sagen
viele Musiker und Medienkünstler, die deshalb das quelloffene
Linux-Betriebssystem einsetzen.
Einmal im Jahr treffen sich die Linuxmusiker zur Linux Audio
Conference, zuletzt im Frühjahr 2008 an der Kunsthochschule für Medien
in Köln. Die Szene ist bunt: Die Präferenz für Linux als
Betriebssystem ist der gemeinsame Nenner, der hier Komponisten
akademischer Neuer Musik mit Technomusikern oder den Programmierern
von Aufnahmesoftware an einen Tisch, auf eine Bühne bringt. Für
Deutschlandradio Kultur hat Hubert Steins die Protagonisten der Szene
wie den Musiker und Mathematiker Miller Puckette getroffen
http://www.dradio.de/dkultur/programmtipp/vorschau/793304/
Ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
After following the thread here about laptop survival rates live, I've decided to roll my own ruggedized embedded softsynth box:
http://www.restivo.org/blog/archives/a-more-portable-setup
I'd appreciate any advice anyone here might have to share regarding this adventure.
I'm particularly curious about storage options. I'd rather not put in a spinning hard drive, and go with some kind of flash drive with an ATA or SATA interface, if such things exist.
-ken
