Note: I'm moving this thread to linux-audio-user,
because I think that's where this particular discussion belongs
since the intention is to serve linux audio users.
The topic is: a site to replace Dave Phillips' venerable,
labor-intensive, hand-maintained sound applications page.
It must allow visitors to easily add, update, and correct
entries for linux audio/music apps.
Probably also user reviews & commentary on applications.
This site may or may not end up affiliated with the
emerging linuxaudio.org website(s), it's too early to say.
So it doesn't seem appropriate to keep this discussion
on the consortium_p list.
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 04:34:14PM +0100, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> Paul Winkler <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com> writes:
>
> > We discussed some requirements a long time ago on LAD and/or LAU,
> > I forget. I put up a quick mockup on my website and have done nothing
> > since then.
(snip)
> Paul, did the server wake up?
yes, I had exceeded my disk quota. Upgraded my account and all's well.
summary and links:
http://www.slinkp.com/linux/soundapp_site_roughs/
Rough mock-up of a typical page:
http://www.slinkp.com/linux/soundapp_site_roughs/app_entry.html
> I'm curious to see the current state of
> affairs (so that we can direct people who visit the "applications"
> page at www.agnula.org to this site :) and of course help where we
> can).
Help at this point would consist of:
1. Refining the requirements for an app-listing site,
in terms of features and user interface.
2. Suggestions for a name for the site
3. Improved visual design. This should come after
the requirements are worked out.
4. Improved app categorization.
There were some comments suggesting that Dave's old
categories can be improved.
This can always evolve, but it would be nice to
have a good starting point.
To keep this discussion from getting confused, I will follow up with
separate messages targeting points 1 and 2.
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Hi
It seems that I get quite stable performance by starting jack like this
on my P4 2.4Ghz laptop with onboard i810:
jackstart -R -v -d alsa -n 3 -p 256 -zt
But what exactly does this translate to in terms of latency? Should I
expect more? I get almost the same performance under 2.4.23 with Andrew
Morton's low-latency patched and 2.6.2 with or without the mm-patch.
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On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 11:18:15AM +0000, rob fell wrote:
> Paul Winkler wrote
> <snip>
> > Rough mock-up of a typical app listing page:
> > http://www.slinkp.com/linux/soundapp_site_roughs/app_entry.html
> <snip>
>
> I think you probably ought to add a "mailing list" entry for each package.
> Some have their own lists, some should use LAU....
Right. This is now in the requirements doc, and I'm adding it to
the mockup. Thanks!
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Hi all. I just joined the list, and I figured I would unload my
problems on all of you, since you seem so nice form reading the
archives :-)
I have been using linux for years, but not ALSA. I just bought a new
computer with an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 sound card in hopes of doing a
little bit of recording, but I seem to have run into a problem just
getting my base system configured
Whenever I do something that uses sound, I get about a 3 second delay
before the sound plays. Once the audio has started playing then
everything is fine until it stops. I then get the delay again the next
time I try to play a sound.
This is a little bit inconvienient when I try to start rhythmbox and I
wait for the music to start, rather annoying when desktop "beeps and
dings" are delayed until after the action has occurred, and downright
freakish when I try a flash animation like on homestarrunner.com. By
way of example, the main page of that site contains a bunch of buttons
that trigger animations and sound effects as you mouse over them. When
I mouse over the first button, the animation starts but then halts
while waiting for the sound effect. If I keep my cursor there, 3
seconds later the sound plays and the animation continues, and then if
I mouse to the next button I must wait again. If I move my cursor to
the next button while the sound fromt he first one is still playing, I
get the sound effect immediately, and as long as I don't let the audio
stop, every thing is fine.
Has anyone seen something like this, or have any possible suggestions?
I google for combinations of ice1712, envy24, lag, buffer alsa, and
others but could not get any resonable results.
I am using Fedora Core 1 with the 2.4.22 kernel form ATrpms and alsa
1.0.2 (also from ATrpms). I have tried disabling esd, but it doesn't
make a difference. I don't have my modules.conf right now, but it is
very stock (configured with alsaconf) other than a couple of lines I
added to prevent searching for a second sound card (was printing
messages to /var/log/messages about being able to load module for
snd-slot-1 - this didn't fix my problem ;-). My system is an Athlon XP
2500+ (barton) with NForce2 ultra400, 1 gig of RAM (dual-channel),
GeforceFX 5200 and Maxtor 160G sata (SiI3112 controller). Onboard AC97
audio is disabled in the BIOS.
Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry, but did someone received this message, I think I sent it to the
list, but no one answer me, maybe it's not working?, or maybe I need to
be clearer, or my problems is too specific... thanks for your answer
Hello Friends,
I bought a laptop toshiba A10 - S213 pentium 4 - 516 Mo and I installed
mandrake 9.2 on it, i use it with the multimedia kernel of mandrake. I
would like to know if one of you could access to the bios of this kind
of machine, it seems that we have to use window$ to have access to it,
really strange. Does someone have an idea?
And also, I have some problems when I used sound and that in the same
time I run a brownser or another application, the sound is cutting by
some other priority of the system, I tried to give priority to sound by
doing nice --10 but it's always the same, does someone had experienced
this problem?
thanks a lot for your help!!
juto aviten
http://radio.apo33.org
With all the new releases of audio software of late and all the shift
that's taking place among distros, I'm trying to devise a good
upgrade path for my DAW.
As it stands I'm running RedHat 9 with a patched kernel. I've
installed all the audio software I use by building from scratch --
downloading, compiling, and installing individual packages. At this
point, it has taken so much work to get my system where it is that
I'm loathe to upgrade it. Yet, with new versions of Rosegarden,
Muse, Ardour, and Jack coming out lately, I'd really like to take
advantage of those new features. OTOH, I'm worried that an upgrade
can cause problems with work that is in progress.
An ideal world for me would be a fairly straightforward binary
install process for the OS and most packages, with the capability to
install "development" versions of those packages that I'm interested
in playing with or contributing to. For example, suppose I found a
bug in Ardour that I could patch. I'd like to be able to code,
install, and test my patch without screwing up my existing system.
I'd also like to be able to upgrade individual packages and back out
the upgrade if it breaks something. It would be *really* cool to
have something like a virtual machine where I could have a test
environment and production enviornment on the same machine. Then I
could get things running in the test environment and push them to
production when I'm sure they are stable. Another issue is that I'm
thinking of moving from RedHat, but I don't know where to move to. I
tried Planet CCRMA for a while, but my dial-up made that prohibitive.
I'm about to upgrade to broadband, so I may revisit that.
So, anyway, how are you guys handling these issues? Do you install
from scratch? Do you install audio on top of an existing distro?
Which one? RedHat, Mandrake, Debian, SuSE, Gentoo, etc? Does Planet
CCRMA work well for you? What about Agnula? How do you upgrade
individual packages? How do you back out the upgrade if there's a
problem? Do you manage a separate "test" environment to keep from
bringing down your DAW?
I know there's no single answer to these questions, and eventually,
I'll just have to pick from all the equally viable choices. But I'd
also like to learn from the wisdom of folks who have more experience
with this -- find out what the pitfalls are with each choice. So I
would be greatly appreciative of any suggestions you guys might have.
Thanks,
Greg
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So, the user-contributed sound apps listing page needs a title.
Here's all the suggestions I could find in the last thread on this
topic (back in 2002), plus a few more off the top of my head:
Big Linux Audio Repository -- BLARe
Audio & Music Apps for Linux (AMAL)
Linux Audio Festival (LAF)
Linux Audio Free Totally Encompassing Resources (LAFTER)
Linux Audio Land (LAL)
Linux Audio & Music App List (LAMAL)
Linux Audio & Music Software Database
Linux Sound Pavilion
Linux Sound Roadmap
Linux Sounds Zoo
Linux Waves
Raiders of the Lost Softs
Software for Linux Audio & Music (SLAM)
Sound & MIDI Software For Linux*
The Cyborg Musicians Club
The List
The Shaking Warehouse
* an oldie but goodie ;-)
p.s. if you don't like any of the above, I will deny having
made it up ;-)
How bout some more suggestions?
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On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 09:47:55AM +0000, Richard Bown wrote:
> On Saturday 31 January 2004 21:35, Paul Winkler wrote:
> > The topic is: a site to replace Dave Phillips' venerable,
> > labor-intensive, hand-maintained sound applications page.
> > It must allow visitors to easily add, update, and correct
> > entries for linux audio/music apps.
> > Probably also user reviews & commentary on applications.
>
> ObPlug: Our putative Linux Musician site is aiming to do exactly this kind of
> thing. Not a WIKI (because it is edited) but a place where people can post
> app links, reviews, tutorials etc. I'm not suggesting it's there to replace
> anything (before the flames come on) just augmenting what's already there and
> aimed squarely at the user/musician:
I just had another look (I've seen the site before and read
several of the articles). It's a very nice general-purpose "portal"
kinda site. But it doesn't have a full-featured app database features,
just links and very brief descriptions. So, I see this as nicely
complementary to what I want to do.
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