WLCraig <wendell1(a)anncrman.com> wrote:
>> When I first started out using Linux, I used fvwm2. It used
>> very little resources and booted up very quickly. I still
>> have it on the SuSE 6.4 install, so it may still be out
>> there somewhere.
>>
>> Rocco
> I use fvwm2 all day every day; ready to go in approx
> .75 seconds. Does everything I want a wm to do. No bells.
> No whistles. Perfect!
You said *exactly* what I (originally) wanted to say about
fvwm2. It's just that I have only used kde and fvwm2 and
wasn't sure what the others were like. But yes... loads
fast as %&*# and used (if my memory serves me well)
1 or 2 megs of ram.
Am I mistaken about the 1 or 2 megs of ram part?
Rocco
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Hello
I've just got my powerbook back after it took 3 weeks to replace the screen. The repair shop was kind enough to blow away my hard drive and install macos 9.1 so i'm now rebuilding my linux system. I've gone for yellow dog 2.3 (after the debian installer gave me too much gip).
Preamble over, heres the griff:
I've got kernel version 2.4.19-4a
i'm running alsa 0.9rc2 / snd-powermac (rc3 wouldn't build the powermac driver)
Some apps work fine, e.g.
xmms playing an mp3 (oss emulation)
pd 0.35 (native alsa)
Others have a very distorted sound unless the software volume level is very low, e.g.
audacity (oss emu)
SpiralSynthModular (oss emu)
1. has anyone else using ppc noticed this phenomenon of some apps being fine and others being very distorted?
2. does anyone have a good solution?
i had the same problem with my previous install on this machine when i had alsa/ benh2.4.19 kernel. the solution i found was to use the 2.4.10 yellow dog kernel + oss native module when running these audio apps. unfortunately this did not allow me to use alsa.
cheers
matthew
>>> Andy Main hat gesagt: // Andy Main wrote:
>>> ...how would I go about booting directly into ardour?
>>> Ie no logins, no fancy window manager just switch on
>>> the pc and it boot into it...
>> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> I think, without a window manager Ardour would
>> be nearly useless...
> ...Another thing to consider is using ressource
> friendly applications. Make something like sWM
> (www.small-window-manager.de) or at least blackbox
> your window manager, use Vim not Emacs, Dillo not Mozilla,
> M. Eddington's minibar not the Gnome/KDE-Panel, mc not
> Nautilus and so on.
>This way, you could get the most out of your (minimalist) machine.
When I first started out using Linux, I used fvwm2. It used very little resources and booted up very quickly. I still have it on the SuSE 6.4 install, so it may still be out there somewhere.
Rocco
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A technical but mostly non-linux friend was asking me about where Ogg
Vorbis is relative to MP3's, given the current status of MP3 encoding
software.
I did a quick test of making an ogg from a wav, and my naive version
produced:
[lconrad@tuba renfaire]$ ls -l hercules*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 lconrad lconrad 4526080 Aug 18 14:14 hercules2.mp3
-rw-rw-r-- 1 lconrad lconrad 12220015 Sep 3 12:30 hercules2.ogg
-rw-rw-r-- 1 lconrad lconrad 49956104 Aug 18 14:09 hercules2.wav
I used ecasound to do the encoding, but what my ecasoundrc says it did
is:
ext-ogg-output-cmd = oggenc --raw -o %f
oggenc is:
[lconrad@tuba renfaire]$ oggenc -v
OggEnc v0.8 (libvorbis rc2)
So my question is, is there a way to get the ogg file down closer to
the size of the mp3 file?
--
Laura (mailto:lconrad@laymusic.org , http://www.laymusic.org/ )
(617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574
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>> WLCraig <wendell1(a)anncrman.com> wrote:
>>
>> I use fvwm2 all day every day; ready to go in approx
>> .75 seconds. Does everything I want a wm to do. No bells.
>> No whistles. Perfect!
> Rocco <linuxmedia4(a)netscape.net> wrote:
> You said *exactly* what I (originally) wanted to say about
> fvwm2....
Rocco <linuxmedia4(a)netscape.net> wrote:
Oh yea... I forget to mention...
The reason it would be good for a dedicated PC Music Workstation is that (even though) you can strip fvwm2 down to just the grey mesh background, you can still have tons of functionality. If you left click on the backdrop, you get the (user defined) pop-up menu with all your favorite scipts, programs, utilities. And if you right click, you get a pop-up menu of all programs that are currently running (click on one to go to that program).
Imagine your multitrack recorder on one desktop, then you activate the pop-up menu and choose the mixer to go to your mixer. And that's why you dont need a task bar. Just move from modual to module without pesky task bars, panals or icons lying around taking up valuable space and resources.
You can have icons in the pop-up menu if you want to make this more intuitive.
Rocco
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Hello, everyone,
I'm new to the list, and to linux audio in general. I tried Linux on my
desktop about a year ago, but found it so frustrating that I gave up after a
few weeks and reinstalled Windows. But now that Red Hat 8 is out, I'm
anxious to try again.
The only problem is, I don't know what kind of audio production applications
are able to provide me with the functionality that I've been enjoying in
Windows with Cubase SX. I have a small home studio with hardware that is
fully Linux compatible (bless you, M-Audio).
I know Ardour seems to be the best choice for multitrack recording, and I'm
sure it would suffice since my plugin needs are limited. Unfortunately, I
rely heavily on midi and synth plugins (in my current case, Cubase's VST
Instruments) to handle various keyboards. I don't do loops or anything
particularly complicated. I just have a simple midi controller that I use
to record keyboard tracks.
I'd like to hear some suggestions as to what software someone like me could
use to retain the same basic functionality when switching to Linux. Does
anybody have any suggestions?
If people are in general agreement as to what the "best" apps out there are,
it might be useful to have a webpage dedicated to recommendations from the
list, eh? Just a thought. :)
Thanks, everyone. I look forward to hearing your opinions!
Sage
This is my first post on this list, so here goes!......
I've had ardour running on my system for a while now and I really like
it. I've now got hold of a second PC which I am gonna dedicate to
running only ardour (on a debian system). Now once I have all set up
and working well, how would I go about booting directly into ardour? Ie
no logins, no fancy window manager just switch on the pc and it boot
into it (and mount some drives on a network). I'd for obvious reasons
have a dual boot config in order to debug and apt update ;)
Thanks for any help given.
Andy.
I use blackbox anyway because I like the minimal approach to things (I
use openwindows at work not cde for example).
As for the RADAR - I always loved that system, BeOS is my favourite (no
flames please!) OS anyway for audio.
As for the network drive - its because I have two workstations, I need
to transfer data across.
I only started this up because I wanted a multitrack only PC - so just
to be able to switch on PC and after 20s see ardour without touching
anything else would be great!
Thanks for the advice anyhoo guys.
Andy.
Sweep 0.5.7 Development Release
-------------------------------
Sweep is a sound wave editor, and it is now also generally useful as a
flexible recording and playback tool. Inside lives a pesky little virtual
stylus called Scrubby who enjoys mixing around in your files.
This development release is available as a source tarball at:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sweep/sweep-0.5.7.tar.gz?download
This version includes support for Ogg Vorbis import and export, including
both variable and average bitrate encoding modes. There are many other
user interface updates, including new input controls for sample rates and
channels.
There is a new Screenshot tour of Sweep, introducing effects filters,
Ogg Vorbis encoding dialogs, and colour schemes:
http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/screenshots/
Sweep is designed to be intuitive and to give you full control. It includes
almost everything you would expect in a sound editor, and then some:
* precise, vinyl like scrubbing
* looped, reverse, and pitch-controlled playback
* playback mixing of unlimited independent tracks
* looped and reverse recording
* internationalisation
* multichannel and 32 bit floating point file support
* LADSPA 1.1 effects support
* multiple views, discontinuous selections
* easy keybindings, mouse wheel zooming
* unlimited undo/redo with fully revertible edit history
* multithreaded background processing
* shaded peak/mean waveform rendering, multiple colour schemes
Sweep is Free Software, available under the GNU General Public License.
More information is available at:
http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/
Thanks to Pixar Animation Studios and CSIRO Australia for supporting the
development of this project.
enjoy :)
Conrad.
matthew yee-king writes:
>
> and what of rosegarden? can't that use softsynths via an alsa virtual
> midi driver?
>
> http://www.all-day-breakfast.com/rosegarden
Yes, although as someone else points out, so can any sequencer that
uses ALSA to drive its MIDI devices. I use only softsynths on this
machine (a laptop with no hardware MIDI support) and they work
very well.
Rosegarden-4 is probably the nearest thing you'll find to Cubase on
Linux now. I say that with some confidence even though it's not at all
close to Cubase in professionalism or scope, just because there are so
few other music applications on Linux that are designed to be quite so
general-purpose and immediately effective. It's not entirely stable or
feature-complete yet and we take a somewhat good-enough attitude
to latency and performance issues in a way that's entirely suitable for
a home musician but not for studio-quality use. But it's entirely
possible already to make real music with it, and we'd love more
constructive feedback from people who are trying to do that.
Rosegarden-4 does quality MIDI sequencing and editing, multi-track
audio via JACK with LADSPA plugins (this stuff is fairly new in RG, could
use some knowledgeable testers), and good score editing. We've
been demoing it at the London Linux Expo yesterday and today and
despite the odd crash we've had (I think) pretty productive results.
And of course made a lot of noise, most of it rather unattractive.
Hey ho.
Chris