Hello everybody
I mainly read the ML and apologize in advance for the annoyance of such
a dumb question, but I have been in search of a good synthesis-only
percussive sound generation solution for so long I cannot remember.
When I play with the latest sunvox, that I use on mobile platforms
(Meego / Harmattan and Maemo) and hear the wonders that Alex made with
the kicker and DrumSynth module, I really wonder how come are there no
such thing as a solid (Native, ideally LV2, but realistically DSSI)
drumsynth plugin? Or maybe I'm missing something?
I would really like to.
Phil
--
Philippe Coatmeur
* http://opensimo.org/play
* http://opensimo.org/adamweb/
* https://github.com/xaccrocheur
On 04/03/2014 09:58 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:26:25PM -1000, david wrote:
>> Who knows, maybe 300-400 years from know, today's rock operas will be high
>> opera! Complete with the fat lady singing and scholarly musicologists
>> writing dissertations on the use of pinball machines as musical
>> instruments...
>
> Ummm, it has already been done! Tommy. :)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who's_Tommy
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZQLXs72Lo
Thanks, only that's a musical, not an opera. ;-)
Of course, at the rate that English has been changing over the last
800-1000 years, by then our idea of English will probably be
incomprehensible to whoever's alive then ...
My guitar instructor in high school was lead guitarist in one of the
local bands of the time. He wrote a rock opera and performed it with his
band to get his Masters degree in Communications.
--
David W. Jones
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
http://dancingtreefrog.com
Hey,
I like to open a discussion about Bitwig and what 'we' (users, but
mostly developers) can learn from it.
I worked just about 30min with Bitwig so far. Just a few thoughts.
What is nice to notice is that the actions you try to do as a user is
possible pretty often. They seems to know which actions
computermusicians tend to perform and they make that possible in an easy
way.
Automation is very smooth it seems.
It's also a nice feeling that you work with a finished product, good
chance you can make and finish the project you've in mind.
It's handy that it comes with a bunch of samples, but why can't we make
a sample pack and make that easy to install on Linux and add it
(automatically) to let's say Qtractor?
The sound quality of the included instruments seems to be ok, but I
doubt whether it is comparable to stuff like AMS/Ingen, zynaddsubfx,
pianoteq.
Making a good song is still hard, also in a sophisticated application
like Bitwig.
For very advanced features you probably need Bitwig, but the tools on
Linux aren't bad I think. I'm asking myself how big the gap is. To me it
looks like the gap itself is not that big, but the last 10% of finishing
and polishing an app, makes a huge difference for the end user. The
Linuxaudio Floss tools lacks that finishing touch, completeness and
level of integration pretty often (which is logical if you look at the
manpower).
Regards,
\r
Here is a link to a public beta of my new VST plug-in, a spectral delay
effect - http://lanternfishaudio.wordpress.com/downloads/. It is only
available on Linux for the time being and the GUI will stop loading in
2014.07.01 but audio processing part will still work. After that time
either the beta period will be extended, the plug-in released commercially
or if there is not enough interest as open source. There is a manual
explaining how to use or install it. It is still in fairly early stages of
developments but should be usable for most users with decent hosts.
It will work on Renoise and Ardour 3 and does not work on Qtractor 0.5.11
which reports it's sampling rate as 0 which, while a perfectly respectable
number, is not a valid sampling rate IMO.
Hi!
Looking for input on how you lay out your recorded material for an album in Ardour / Mixbus. Eg; 1 song per session? All tunes in same session? Snapshots?
Oh, just one polite request should anyone choose to reply; stay on topic!! :) the bitwig ramblings are a good example.
Thnx
~ Russell
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Roger <gurusonic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's the theme from TV show "Hawaii 5-0" . Steve and Danno were the top
> cops.
>
>
Right On!!!!
Speaking in of cops, getting it back to the ontopic OT, _it_ reminds me of
esperanto, and how certain human values are supposed to be universal
language. I wish we could all make music with linux. Because my sisters and
brothers would be free. But what really matters to me is the freesom of my
sisters and brothers musicality.
Have a delicious weekend,
--
Set Hallström
AKA
reSet Sakrecoer
http://sakrecoer.com
Back when I was working on a Mac I bought a lot of REX2 drum loops. Is
anyone aware of any Linux software that can play and or convert REX2?
I know I can run Windows apps in Wine, but I don't want to. I'm looking
for a native Linux application, utility, plugin, etc..
Neil
--
DJ Dual Core's Blog
http://oldmixtapes.blogspot.com/
Order without government; Peace without violence.
I used Bitwig demo for 30 minutes - from the video presentations I
found it looks like a tool that could really fit my workflow (I hope
by saying that I'm not going to start another massive discussion about
what is a real musician or not...).
I just hope that these 2 cents would show why I decided to try the
demo, why I didn't stick with it (and spent the 300 EURO) and why I wish I
could have.
--== Why I tried the demo - because there are lots of videos of it on
Youtube! ==--
Trying software takes time - as Fons and others mentionned before,
using music software to see if they fit what I want takes time and
effort... And I admit, I'm lazy...and I like to spend my time at other
things than trying software for hours to realise it is not what I
want... So I checked demos on Youtube... In 10 minutes I can see a
summary of what it can do, how is the workflow, how it sounds and I
make a decision if I'm going to try it or not (please please not
judgement here, and I can't really be the only one!).
A colleague of mine who is an amateur musician (Windows) as well told
me the last software he bought, he chose it because it had more
Youtube tutorials than others (again, we can judge all we want that
process, but that's the way people roll...).
I have started to do that with ams-lv2 and other plugins that I have
have worked on... 5-10 minutes video on youtube, takes me 2 to 3 hours
to do (and I'm sure I'm going to get faster at it... or hope anyway)
but I had a few friends comment that it gave them a good idea as to
what can be done with Ingen and that they would like to try it (I'm
sure with a gentle push I'll get one to install GNU Linux and try the
audio suite!).
So yeah... my first 0.66 cents... we should make more
videos/demos/tutorials of our tools/workflow/sound to show case.
--== Why I didn't stick with it - wait...what??? no jack transport!!! ==--
I can do without LADSPA.... I can do without LV2 if I know it's
coming... but no jack transport...nope...sorry...need that... I knew
Jack is powerful... I knew it by using it, I knew it because other
musicians who used it on my machine were impressed. And now I know it
even more because I can't live with it for more than 5 minutes!
I use Hydrogen, Seq24 and other tools I sync through Jack way too much...
So yeah... Jack is awesome... All Hail to Jack!
--== Why I wish I could use it - GOD this thing is simple ==--
I'm not ashamed to say it - when I record/play/compose music, I want
to focus on the music, not the software!
After a few minutes in Bitwig, I had a few synths running in midi,etc...
Despite my second point about Jack, one thing that always annoyed me
is the connections between software... Hydrogen Snare going to Ingen
for sound processing while the rest goes through Rackarrack for more
processing and then recording that back... takes a lot of connection
to setup! And if one of those app crash, I'm back to recreate every
connection.
(Now, I can see you behind your screens "HEY WE HAVE TOOLS FOR
THAT"... keep reading...)
So I thought to myself "Damn, Bitwig is easy and slick and intuitive..."
And then I thought a bit more "there must be a solution for that"...
I checked on Google... Cool Gladish, that looks like what I want...
Let's check on Youtube a demo....ah....none (except one in Spanish...
a language I don't speak)... So back to my first point there!
Now since then I have installed Gladish and tried it out and after
20-30 minutes found out that's what I need.
DISCLAIMER - This is only my opinion... And YES, I do admit it, I'm
lazy... Being a musician is not my job... It's a hobby... That I do
after long day of work... But then again... I'm probably not wrong by
saying that a lot of musician user base is in that case...
