9 Dec
2002
9 Dec
'02
4:33 p.m.
Well, you can already load in audio files and edit their pitch/tempo in
ardour, and you have a multitrack layout, I don't think Ardour should
become some kind of clone of Acid, but to me a lot of the functionality
found in Acid is already there in the latest version of Ardour. I don't
think a "paintbrush" is needed, and its actually less flexable to limit
one audio file per track, but with the ability to edit a samples
pitch/tempo its already got most of the necessary functionality.
http://www.brianredfern.org
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Mark Knecht wrote:
Brian,
I disagree that Ardour is the right place to put Acid functionality.
Ardour should continue down the path it's going, which will make it a great
replacement for Pro Tools type requirements.
IMO Acid functionality would be better placed in some other app, or being
spawned as a new app.
Mark
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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Acid for Linux ?
I think ardour is really getting closest to an acid clode, I used to use
acid and came up with some very nice tunes a few years ago, so I know the
interface well, terminatorX had some of its features, but it a loop
player, while Acid lets you paint loops in with a little brush. If you
really want to see that functionality, send Paul Davis a generous donation
so he can keep working on ardour! tX does have automated beatmatching
capability and can alter both tempo and pitch, it really has some features
that Acid lacks, but its really for playing back loops or tracks and
scratching/djing, rather than sequencing loops and sample hits. For me, I
thought that acid is a little too easy, I like actually writing the music
note by note, rather than relying on other people's loops, but for quite
some time I have just been using lots of outboard synths and just used
linux to record and master cd's. I'm finally getting muse to work and am
looking at going "all linux", or just using iiwu and soundfonts, using
muse to track and using jack/ardour to record, edit and master. Of course
using outboard gear is easier, I can make up complete tracks with my korg
electribe M in mere minutes, but at the same time my tracks will sound
similar to all the other electribe based tracks being made, while with
linux, muse, csound, ladspa, and ardour there's the oppurtunity to create
a more unique, signature sound.
http://www.brianredfern.org
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Gerasimos Grammatikopoulos wrote:
> If someone told me "hey, what do you expect? there is only a given
number of
> open source programmers familiar with the
specific pains of music apps.
Now
> either contribute or shut up" I'd
have to agree with him. But saying
that
music
apps in linux/Unix _must_ be tougher to use than their
counterparts in
other OSes is IMHO simply wrong.
I didn't.
AFAICT using alsaplayer with some effects almost achieves the same
results as acid. But I have never used ACID so I can't qualify that.
When I add the ability to set loop points then alsaplayer should be very
close.
There is also TerminatorX which achieves very similar results.
And another is spiral loops.
What is hard about these apps?
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