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On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:09:53AM +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote:
Greg Wilder schrieb:
Livecoding with SuperCollider, Music Composition
through Spectral Modeling Synthesis and Pure Data, Interfacing Pure Data with
Faust, Python for Sound Manipulation, Stereo, Multichannel and Binaural Sound
Spatialization in Pure-Data, A Tetrahedral Microphone Processor for Ambisonic
Recording, Visual prototyping of audio applications (CLAM), and the list goes
on and on...
Well well - if this is not pure, unspoiled tech-head-machismo ;-]
All of this is of course imoprtant but it is just a (maybe most
advanced) part of Linux Audio - Audio on Linux means recording so-called
musicians playing Instruments made of wood and wire with Ardour also,
writing tunes in a scoreeditor and playing it with Specimen and
Zynaddsubfx and being on stage playing ams-patches with a Keyboard.
This is so-called "usage" and this is linux-audio-*user* so anything
that is related to such underdeveloped aproaches to audible arts is
relevant here is it not?
"When will someone produce a chart-topping
hit with Ardour" is _not_ a serious
or productive topic and has _nothing_ to do with the reality of the industry.
If you wanna learn how squeeze more "thump" outta your woofers or get
more "pop" from your tweeters, why not visit a relevant forum - there are
many to choose from...
Linux is not only about technology and industry - it is about freedom.
And to be relevant at all it depends on usage. If people exercize
freedom by playing music to their liking and using Linux to do so
(beside their guitars, voices, amps, beatboxes etc.) then Linux will
thrive and do the good that was intended as the 4 freedoms where
declared in the first place.
Well-said.
I'm in it for (1) the music, (2) the freedom, and (3) the nerd-wankery. Due to my
financial situation, I could not have been able to pursue (1) or (3) if others hadn't
made (2) happen, and I am especially grateful to everyone who cares about (2). I also care
about it for ideological and political reasons as well as practical reasons too.
I think of this list as kind of like the "Slashdot" of Linux Audio. Many of the
flamewars and rants are very similar-- if not identical-- to those that have occured on
general-purpose FOSS forums like /. et al., for nearly a decade, and that's OK with
me. As someone else mentioned: this phenomenon is the nature of general-purpose lists
which represent the intersection (collision?) of many different groups of people with
different interests, biases, backgrounds, and perspectives. I used to live in Noo Yawk.
It's noisy there too. I wouldn't want to live there anymore, but it is always
stimulating to visit-- the noise certainly hasn't diminished its value.
The rants and flamewars are a distraction and often a waste of time, but sometimes the
distraction is welcome. Sometimes I enjoy reading arguments and arguing. The real value of
this list is that it is such a mixed bag.
In order of value, this is what I get from this list:
A) Announcements and "passing mention" of software that is either new or new to
me. I never would have heard of the new l2dynparam version of zyn, or of jack_capture, or
of jackdmp, or of tons of other stuff, without seeing it float by on this list.
B) A place to discuss or ask about technologies/programs that either don't have their
own mailing list, or transcend the narrow focus of any existing list. A good example is
zyn above, or the recent discussion of AMS vs. OM/Ingen, or of the merits/limitations of
Rosegarden vs. Muse, etc. These discussions need a general audience.
C) I don't check
lam.fugal.net often enough, so I very much enjoy the "Hey, I
just wrote this, what do you guys think?" posts. Always fun to hear new music and be
part of the cameraderie with fellow musician-composer-nerds. And to read the comments and
feedback. I can't imagine that happening on any other list.
D) The aforementioned distraction-value. I'm procrastinating right now by reading and
responding to this thread. Sometimes the distraction is fun.
- -ken
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