4 Mar
2011
4 Mar
'11
3:08 p.m.
Answers inline below...
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Kim Cascone <kim(a)anechoicmedia.com> wrote:
Hello Kim,
I see - this is correct and true - until one encounters other legacy layers
Yes I know that article, which is very biased I think, but I was
referring to your article on CDM in which you state that for music
production on Linux one only needs ALSA (or FFADO for FireWire) and JACK.
which might present problems -- I have a vague memory
of needing to add a
Jack<-->ALSA midi bridge for Yoshimi synth as well as some sort of OSS ALSA
mod for some other app to work - sorry but details are fuzzy -
Just look at the fun that is PulseAudio for many people these days. It is
getting better but isn't there yet.
and also true is that one can use a distro that makes
all this invisible to
the user and streamlines the work needed to set up a workflow and get things
customized but finding these other (sometimes arcane) distros is not all
that easy -- the low hanging fruit is Ubuntu Studio which is rife with
issues and no easier to use really than installing Ubuntu and setting up
your own workflow with apps and utilities - which is what I have done
because I didn't want to switch to another distro i.e. staying with Ubuntu
was easier and didn't interrupt my busy work schedule etc etc
And here is the big thing, touched on later as well with the crapplications
comment.
Linux is competing against itself in this regards.
Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio are two of the most troublesome distros for audio
in general. If it isn't lack of proper configuration, it is lack of proper
packages, very out of date packages, etc. These also happen to be the best
known and most publisized versions of Linux out there and like it or not,
when people that aren't already involved or have researched Linux hear the
word Linux, this is what they think of. This is generally the first
distribution someone tries, and their first thoughts are, "Well if this
which is supposed to be the best of Linux can't do basic things like allow
me to start Jack, the rest must suck".
I will repeat, Linux is competing against itself. The sad thing is that
Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio have larger crews behind them, but because their
focus is so varied they aren't often tuned well for audio. Maybe sometime
it will get better, but until then, people are going to go with the terms
they know(Ubuntu == TheBestOfLinux if not Ubuntu == Linux) and are ALWAYS
going to walk away dissapointed because in order to do even basic things
that even WINDOWS(Much less Mac) can do out of the box they have to 'hack
the system'(Terminology courtesy of our tech media) just to get the basics
working, much less the more advanced things like realtime preemption.
Until something can be done about that, there is only so much point in
competing with even a now defunct product to be honest.
Seablade
PS Great credit to GMaq, Macinnis, and all the others that do put their time
and energy into maintaining audio focused distributions.