30 Jan
2010
30 Jan
'10
5:43 a.m.
On 01/30/2010 08:32 PM, Marius Stoica wrote:
Hi, I'd like to add a few words.
When I first listen to your soundfile I was very disappointed (I said
to myself that this is an excess of intention or just a buggy
soundfile), but after reading the other mails I definitely think that
this is something to be criticized.
No offense, but here it goes:
You can not advertise something to be something that it isn't. I mean,
sorry, but did you even read the article about tech house on Wikipedia
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techhouse> or the Ishkur's guide to
electronic music <http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/> sound
examples on tech house. And you can not say that this file is just
"unprocessed", I mean if you look at the waveform and listen to the
sound there's obviously something wrong with it, a codec problem or
just a bad recording.
The track has issues in it's unprocessed form. That's why I asked for
suggestions on what to do to clean it up and bring out the sound. If you
look at it in an audio visualisation app you will see there is a huge
amount of variety in the soundscape. It's all there just waiting to be
brought out.
My belief is, although experimenting with linux audio
can be a very
consistent and creative result, this doesn't mean that you can easily
get a piece of music or even a piece of noise and show it to anyone. I
love noise, drones and experimental sound, but also in this case the
redundancy its something hard to avoid and an art to achieve.
I tried to make it clear that it is an experimental
synthesised/generative piece. I was figuring that a bunch of hardened
Linux Audio peeps would be a receptive audience and possibly enjoy the
challenge of bringing out the sounds that are hidden in the track.
Patrick, you should be honest about your soundfile and
you should try
to be more careful and respectful when you want a feedback from the list.
The feedback I got from the list was pretty much that I presented I load
of bollocks and I am wasting peoples time and apparently their bandwidth
too by offering up my art for serious criticism.
That was on my mind...
I wish you all the best and a lot of fun with linux audio stuff
Cheers for taking the time to offer some constructive criticism.
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
marius
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Patrick Shirkey
<pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com <mailto:pshirkey@boosthardware.com>> wrote:
On 01/30/2010 07:26 PM, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Listened to
the
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> I'm continually surprised and amazed at how many people on this
list
> take a chance to have a go at something when
they have not
given it more
than a
brief shot. Claim it it the originators fault and then start
making jokes about how crap it is.
Listen: I downloaded your track played it back with vlc. first 2 minutes and all I hear is a fm-like
wobble. I then skip
through
the piece (lasting 80 minutes) and no matter
where I listen I
hear wobble.
Either your file is broken or it's very experimental (I doubt the
latter), don't tell me I'm insulting you! At least
check/reencode/mp3ize/upload-on-soundcloud/anything the file
before you
insult me!
I have verified that what Will is hearing is what I am presenting.
To be honest I am insulted.
Not because of your comment that the track was experimental.
Coming from
you that is kind of a compliment.
But because of your lack of feedback on what I might do to clean
up the
sound to make it more palatable for a wider audience.
Anyway, I am resigned to this track not being received well and I will
have to do the required tweaks under my own direction.
At least it is not my favourite track in the session. Perhaps my next
track will get a better reception now that the ice has been broken.
BTW, I'm not looking for approval. That will be a nice addition if it
happens. I'm seeking a purely technical discussion of what can be done
to clean up the sound for a wider range of audio systems.
Cheers.
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
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