On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:12:42 +0100
Renato<rennabh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, from users' perspective, what are
currently the options for
minimum session handling? I'd just like for a starter to have multiple
sets of connections and be able to save and load them.
Is there any documentation on at least one way of doing this? Couldn't
find any
Is patchage capable of doing this? What exactly does the "save
positions" menu entry do?
In second order, what may we expect from the near future in terms of
more advanced session handling (lash, ladi)? Are they
(lash/ladi) currently usable and used? (Certainly they lack
documentation)
Renato
Thanks to all who have responded, I now have qjackctl's patchbay and
jack_snapshot + bash scripts to look into. Didn't know of any of them,
so it's been useful asking.
I read the discussion on LAD from some months ago on LADI and I
understand the problem is still hot. In now way I want to start a flame
war, I just want to shed some light on this subject, especially from
user's perspective. Especially I'd like to understand where and how
would our feedback be most valuable.
As far as I can understand LADI is, for technical reasons, not
"approved" by all devs, i.e. many think it's design is sort of rushed
and not as efficient/elegant/good as it could/should be, and because of
this it will never be rock solid.
It seems that a more definitive solution would need a partial rewriting
of JACK itself.
OTOH the only active development that is being made to solve this whole
session management problem is on LADI. It seems that there is no one
with enough knowledge, time and interest to work out the more
definitive solution.
The problem is not a lack of knowledge. Nedko and the other LADI
contributors have written over 60,000 lines of code and counting.
However, the solution they are working does not fit everyones vision for
the best way to handle the requirements for session management.
That by itself is not a problem for everyone as the people whose
requirements are not being met by LADI are more than capable of creating
their own session management systems.
IMO the real problem is that we have too many options for session
management. That means normal users are left scratching their heads to
figure out the best way to manage their sessions. From a desktop Linux
POV this is a big drawback but from a Linux Audio POV it is just
business as usual.
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
As i wrote them, these two paragraphs above seem
pretty incongruent to
me (couldn't people working on LADI invest their time in a more
definitive and "approved by all" solution?) so either I missed some
points (situation which I'd be happy to acknowledge), either the
incongruence is really there (less happy).
I realize no one has definitive answers, but at least I'd like to
understand if LADI has at least the possibility of a future and if it's
worth my time to test, report bugs etc.
waiting for some light
Renato
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