14 Sep
2014
14 Sep
'14
9:15 p.m.
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 11:59 -0700, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
~ Russell
You are right :), I just wanted to point out the extremes. IMO we
reached a point where different approaches of using digital technology
can't be transformed anymore. If you're using approach a, you can't
transform it for usage with the approach of workstation b. Btw. there is
nothing as professional and non-professional anymore. There are still a
few capitalistic standards and societies, but with or without old school
professional engineers, music industry is history. Nowadays musicians
have the chance to use the Internet, there's no need for professional
audio studios, no need for mafia collecting societies. For creativity
it's a big advantage, just audio quality usually suffers from the new
kind of world view, when amp emulating algorithms used with bad pre-amps
should be able to emulate real analog instruments amps etc., or people
never learned to use EQs and instead they flatten everything using
compressors.
On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Ralf Mardorf
<ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if the devs of say Ardour or similar efforts would agree on the amateur /
hobbiest statement. :) Also, Mixbus is not a "hobby" oriented tool at all!! Last
I checked it rolls on a Linux platform and was adapted to other OS'. Don't think
Harrison is in the "hobby" biz. Yet, I digress.
The point was to use something far less resource hungry on older gear that just boots
into the tracking software to record live shows. Then import/export the session. As the
rhetoric unravels, I realize this is not a strong use case. All things being equal, all
live tracks begin at the same point in time. Importing these tracks is easy as a result.
It would, however, be nice to export a Mixbus session (again, compensating for older
laptop in this case) to something lighter for edits, etc. Again, thinking this thru,
it's not really a practical solution.
As far as the big world is concerned and it's software tool chests in all things
audio... I'm not a Linux snob! I'm an advocate of using whatever it takes to get
the thing done at a memorable level o quality. That can include proprietary and non free
tools. I still use windows for some stuff. And osx/iOS... On planet Linux, it's easy
to distract oneself from the music and lose the plot! I often will work on 'nuts n
bolts" stuff that turns into some kind of personal challenge which results in
"we worked so hard to see if we could, we didn't stop to consider if we
should!!" (Fairlight may have been an exception! Turned out to be one of the most
flexible tools of its time :) Some of it is best compared to the writer who has cleaned
their desk, sharpened all their pencils, pulled a fresh notepad, aligned everything
geometrically upon said desk... And written zip!!
I joined up on LAU around 2000. The point then was to make music but have a whole new
tool chest opened relative to digital music recording, editing & mixing.
Occasionally I have to remind myself & and remember the point is still music!!
Cheers!
R On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 09:47 -0700, Russell
Hanaghan wrote:
That, or suck it up and import .wav files to new session manually.
.wav and .mid, not only .wav :p.
You asked for good reasons, for something within Linux, but OTOH, the
world is big, others might ask for something exotic, e.g. to transform
from Fairlight to Qtractor and vice versa. I only touched one Fairlight
workstation in my live and it was broken :D, already before I touched
it ;).
Could you share Ardour2 and Ardour3 sessions, without issues?
IMO before thinking about converting between different programs, we
should be happy, if we can use sessions, done with different versions of
the same software. Linux is for hobby usage, not for professional usage.
That's it!