RE: [linux-audio-user] Acid for Linux ? - Pitch shift

Tim, Acid Loops are importable into Pro Tools so I don't think they are that proprietary. Just mono or stereo wave files with some extra info. Including these loops in Ardour or Rosegarden probably wouldn't be that difficult technically, although Ardour would have to address stereo issue more directly I think. The license agreement for Acid Loops usually says something like "The loops are royalty free for inclusion in music you make. You may not, however distribute them in any other form than a final completed piece of music." Meaning you can't make copies and give them to other Acid users. Personally, I think the libraries are inexpensive enough that people really don't need to do that anyway. The biggest issue that hasn't been addressed here is that the biggest pain with Acid is actually managing the loop library and finding what you need. I've purchased drum loop libraries with 500 loops on a CD. How do you find the right loop to include in your song? This is the biggest problem. There really is no Acid solution today. In the hardware synth world, Roland and others have features on their synths that allow you to find 'similar' sounds, so that when you are working with something close, the box can suggest others. That's cool. With drums, however, you're looking for back beats, fills, stuff that works in a verse or a chorus. It's a big pain in the rear. Some really nifty solution in that area would be really attractive. Mark -----Original Message----- From: linux-audio-user-admin(a)music.columbia.edu [mailto:linux-audio-user-admin@music.columbia.edu]On Behalf Of Darren Landrum Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:40 PM To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Acid for Linux ? - Pitch shift On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 10:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Oh, sorry, I must have missed it. And here I was, thinking I was keeping tight track of this thread. :) Absolutely, but I have a feeling that reverse-engineering their proprietary format (mentioned earlier by Gerasimos) would invite legal attack. Now, since this format is used on only *some* Acid libraries, we could still take advantage of other parts of the total libraries available. But the person using them would need to legally buy their own copies. What, an open library of loops, samples, and patches? And yes, a good, high-end sampler would be really nice for Linux. Isn't someone working on one? Again, I'm in agreement. In theory, once you buy a copy of a library, the loops on it become "royalty free" (whatever that means), but I have a feeling there are still strings attached. And as far as I know, the factory patches of any synthesizer can be used in music, whether that be loops or complete songs. And even if they're not, I don't see how Clavia can prevent someone from using their own personal patches for such a use. They made and sold the synthesizer specifically with the intention of it being used on stage and for recordings. First, second, or third? ;) Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll get started on a design for the Open Loop Library idea and present it at some not-too-distant future point. -Darren