4 May
2015
4 May
'15
9:56 p.m.
(I never paied attention that reply-to is not positionned by LAU...)
Here's what I've been writing.
Le 04/05/2015 20:56, Bruno Ruviaro a écrit :
On Monday, May 4, 2015, Ivan K
<ivan_521521(a)yahoo.com
<mailto:ivan_521521@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I have some question regarding versions of Ardour
that people are using.
Currently, I am running Fedora 20, and their
software repository has two versions of Ardour available:
ardour-2.8.16-12.fc20
ardour-3.5.403-1.fc20
I seem to recall that in the past, despite
Ardour3 being available, some people were still preferring
to use Ardour2. This seems to be supported by the
fact that Fedora offers both versions.
Why might one prefer Ardour2 over Ardour3?
I think some people stayed with A2 just because it was working well
for them and didn't want to run risks or change their workflow.
I'm one of these people.
Actually, I've been using Ardour2 for many years, but I was OK to switch
to A3, especially because I was lacking several things (for example the
fact that MIDI bindings weren't recalled after closing the session).
Still I use Ardour for audio recording only, I have other habits
concerning MIDI, and feel in ease with the modular approach allowed by
Jack, so it was not absolutely necessary for me to swtich to A3.
I tried (and am always trying, by the way), but I've experienced many
bugs, including the big ones around MIDI things (MIDI being un-editable,
then MIDI files being lost, and so on), and finally, I kept on Ardour2
for the moment, because, once again, I don't need Ardour to care about
the MIDI.
As I work in a studio and also for audio-engineers schools, I prefer to
have something which works reliably and that I trust in, than a more
bleeding-edge soft, and as far as I've tried for now (but I must say I
didn't try A3 for 4 monthes), it lead me to stay on A2.
I use Debian, and use the stable version when it's about schools, for
example.
There is something else too. I'm not so keen of A3 GUI. It's not that
far from A2, but I'd like the sobriety of A2, and, more precisely, I
really don't like the way Zoom/Scrolling is done in A3, and I really
miss the scroll bars (mightbe I can custom my preferences so that it
looks like that, I didn't try) of A2.
To end up, but that's not really an Ardour pb, much more my workflow
problem, but I feel A3 quite less usable in i3wm, as you need to recall
much more key bindings to be able to close the windows you've opened (i3
doesn't provide window decoration) as there is no "OK" nor
"cancel".
Well, that's my reasons. By that time, I would be sad not to have
Ardour2 (still, I've not tried A4).
(to be honest, for my own audio-engineering works, I use non-mixer /
non-timeline, and sometimes ecasound)
Cheers.
Aurélien
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5 May
5 May
3:38 a.m.
On 05/05/15 05:56, ORL wrote:
but I feel A3 quite less usable in i3wm, as you need
to recall much more key
bindings to be able to close the windows you've opened (i3 doesn't provide
window decoration) as there is no "OK" nor "cancel".
i3 has a 'kill' command, which is the same as the (x) in window decorations, and
like anything in i3 you can bind it how you like, here it is meta+backspace ...
but I would assume most users of i3 have their own preferred keybindings.
Simon
4:07 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Fwd: Re: Ardour Version Question: 2 versus 3?
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Simon Wise <simonzwise(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 05/05/15 05:56, ORL wrote:
but I feel A3 quite less usable in i3wm, as you need to recall much more
all ardour dialogs and subwindows can be closed with Ctrl-w when they have
keyboard focus.
key
bindings to be able to close the windows you've opened (i3 doesn't provide
window decoration) as there is no "OK" nor "cancel".
i3 has a 'kill' command, which is the same as the (x) in window
decorations, and like anything in i3 you can bind it how you like, here it
is meta+backspace ... but I would assume most users of i3 have their own
preferred keybindings.
9:26 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Fwd: Re: Ardour Version Question: 2 versus 3?
On Mon, 4 May 2015 22:06:56 -0400
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Simon Wise
<simonzwise(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm just writing because I recently did that...
I did that on the mixer window (with what is probably the latest
version of A3), ardour crashed.
Now I'm on A4, and it does not respond to ctrl+w.
Oh, and A4 did not manage to run with the alsa backend, while jack
works fine on the same interface.
Regards,
Philipp
On 05/05/15 05:56, ORL wrote:
but I feel A3 quite less usable in i3wm, as you need to recall
much more
all ardour dialogs and subwindows can be closed with Ctrl-w when they
have keyboard focus. key
bindings to be able to close the windows you've opened (i3 doesn't
provide window decoration) as there is no "OK" nor "cancel".
i3 has a 'kill' command, which is the same as the (x) in window
decorations, and like anything in i3 you can bind it how you like,
here it is meta+backspace ... but I would assume most users of i3
have their own preferred keybindings.
1:32 p.m.
New subject: [LAU] Fwd: Re: Ardour Version Question: 2 versus 3?
The mixer window is not considered to be a dialog or subwindow of the
program.
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:25 AM, <hollundertee(a)gmx.net> wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 22:06:56 -0400
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Simon Wise
<simonzwise(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm just writing because I recently did that...
I did that on the mixer window (with what is probably the latest
version of A3), ardour crashed.
Now I'm on A4, and it does not respond to ctrl+w.
Oh, and A4 did not manage to run with the alsa backend, while jack
works fine on the same interface.
Regards,
Philipp
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On 05/05/15 05:56, ORL wrote:
but I feel A3 quite less usable in i3wm, as you need to recall
much more
all ardour dialogs and subwindows can be closed with Ctrl-w when they
have keyboard focus. key
bindings to be able to close the windows you've opened (i3 doesn't
provide window decoration) as there is no "OK" nor "cancel".
i3 has a 'kill' command, which is the same as the (x) in window
decorations, and like anything in i3 you can bind it how you like,
here it is meta+backspace ... but I would assume most users of i3
have their own preferred keybindings.
10:20 a.m.
New subject: [LAU] Fwd: Re: Ardour Version Question: 2 versus 3?
On 05/05/15 12:06, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Simon
Wise<simonzwise(a)gmail.com> wrote:
yes, of course, and may exit a bit more cleanly ... just pointing out the
i3/tiling equivalent to the window decorations mentioned, sorry ... a bit off-topic.
Simonn
On 05/05/15 05:56, ORL wrote:
but I feel A3 quite less usable in i3wm, as you need to recall much more
all ardour dialogs and subwindows can be closed with Ctrl-w when they have
keyboard focus. key
bindings to be able to close the windows you've opened (i3 doesn't provide
window decoration) as there is no "OK" nor "cancel".
i3 has a 'kill' command, which is the same as the (x) in window
decorations, and like anything in i3 you can bind it how you like, here it
is meta+backspace ... but I would assume most users of i3 have their own
preferred keybindings.
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