27 May
2009
27 May
'09
12:35 a.m.
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if it's been answered already, but
I'm looking for a simple looper that:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this disqualifies
SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not Freewheeling, last I
used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of the DJ-oriented
stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's not so
critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be able to do this,
which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a rough time with ecasound and
ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about item (5) above.
-ken
27 May
27 May
12:37 a.m.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crrw3CcK2YM
http://animoto.com/play/zPp5RCxUqOe1a5vmuT30Dw
Thank you
Ronald Stewart
Creative Director
Trinity Audio Group Inc.
9854 National Blvd. #322
Los Angeles CA 90034
310-733-9285
ronaldjstewart(a)gmail.com
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already, but
I'm looking for a simple looper that:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this
disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
Freewheeling, last I used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of the
DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's not
so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be able
to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a rough time
with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about item (5) above.
-ken
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9:58 a.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:37:08 Ronald Stewart wrote:
Are you answering any of Ken's questions, or are you spaming the list?
What software (from the USB stick say) addresses what concerns numbered below?
all the best,
drew
Ronald Stewart
Creative Director
Trinity Audio Group Inc.
9854 National Blvd. #322
Los Angeles CA 90034
310-733-9285
ronaldjstewart(a)gmail.com
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already,
but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this
disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
Freewheeling, last I used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of the
DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's
not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be
able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a
rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about item
(5) above.
-ken
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3:38 p.m.
drew Roberts wrote:
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:37:08 Ronald Stewart wrote:
Are you answering any of Ken's questions, or are you spaming the list?
What software (from the USB stick say) addresses what concerns numbered below?
I think that Ron was referring to the actual device as a whole rather
than any one specific application...
You should also back off on insulting Ron as he is one of the few people
investing any money in to Linux Audio right now so he is more than
allowed to promote his baby round here.
all the best,
drew
Ronald Stewart
Creative Director
Trinity Audio Group Inc.
9854 National Blvd. #322
Los Angeles CA 90034
310-733-9285
ronaldjstewart(a)gmail.com
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Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already,
but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this
disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
Freewheeling, last I used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of the
DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's
not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be
able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a
rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about item
(5) above.
-ken
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7:28 p.m.
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 13:39:35 you wrote:
drew Roberts wrote:
Well, I took my time and watched the videos but did not see how the answered
any of the questions that were asked. Hence my post.
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:37:08 Ronald Stewart
wrote:
Are you answering any of Ken's questions, or are you spaming the list?
What software (from the USB stick say) addresses what concerns numbered
below?
I think that Ron was referring to the actual device as a whole rather
than any one specific application...
You should also back off on insulting Ron as he is one of the few people
investing any money in to Linux Audio right now so he is more than
allowed to promote his baby round here.
If I had tried insulting him, I would consider taking your advice. As it is, I
would still like the question answered.
Is the device running non-Free apps? Is it running Free audio apps that have
been customized? What?
I am all for people investing money into Free software and making money on the
same. Cool with me. Announce your cool offerings here too. Fine by me.
But Ken asked some specific questions and the post offered two videos in
answer. I was interested in the answers to those questions and invented my
currently limited time in watching them to see if i could learn the answer. I
didn't but would still like to.
So, were the questions answered but I was just too dense to see the answers?
Or was that an irrelevant post promoting that hardware? If it was, it would
be the irrelevant bit I have a problem with, not the promotion per se.
And I did phrase the original post in the form of a question on purpose. I was
asking if it answered any of the questions because I am interested in the
answers. (Perhaps the spam bit was ill advised anyway but it is a pain to
watch such videos looking for the answers when time is short and find them
more promotional rather than informational in nature.)
If anyone feels I need to be taken to task even more after this further post,
let me know, especially those of you who have known me over the years.
drew
all the best,
drew
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310-733-9285
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
> Apologies if I've posted this before, or if it's been answered already,
> but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
>
> 1) Works with stereo WAV files
>
> 2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
>
> 3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this
> disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
>
> 4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
>
> 5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
> Freewheeling, last I used it)
>
> 6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
>
> 7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of
> the DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
>
> 8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
>
> 9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's
> not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
>
> Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be
> able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a
> rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about
> item (5) above.
>
> -ken
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7:36 p.m.
On 05/28/2009 04:28 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 13:39:35 you wrote:
It's one of the only devices that is running all OSS software and
targetted at the commercial DJ market.
Rons been working on it with the paid assistance of several LAD's over
the past few years. I'm surprised you haven't picked up on this by now.
It's an award winning device and is making a huge impact in the
commercial setting.
It runs a customised version of 64studio called Transmission.
drew Roberts wrote:
Well, I took my time and watched the videos but did not see how the answered
any of the questions that were asked. Hence my post.
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:37:08 Ronald Stewart
wrote:
Are you answering any of Ken's questions, or are you spaming the
list?
What software (from the USB stick say) addresses what concerns numbered
below?
I think that Ron was referring to the actual device as a whole rather
than any one specific application...
You should also back off on insulting Ron as he
is one of the few people
investing any money in to Linux Audio right now so he is more than
allowed to promote his baby round here.
If I had tried insulting him, I would consider taking your advice. As it is, I
would still like the question answered.
Is the device running non-Free apps? Is it running Free audio apps that have
been customized? What?
I am all for people investing money into Free software
and making money on the
same. Cool with me. Announce your cool offerings here too. Fine by me.
But Ken asked some specific questions and the post offered two videos in
answer. I was interested in the answers to those questions and invented my
currently limited time in watching them to see if i could learn the answer. I
didn't but would still like to.
So, were the questions answered but I was just too dense to see the answers?
Or was that an irrelevant post promoting that hardware? If it was, it would
be the irrelevant bit I have a problem with, not the promotion per se.
And I did phrase the original post in the form of a question on purpose. I was
asking if it answered any of the questions because I am interested in the
answers. (Perhaps the spam bit was ill advised anyway but it is a pain to
watch such videos looking for the answers when time is short and find them
more promotional rather than informational in nature.)
If anyone feels I need to be taken to task even more after this further post,
let me know, especially those of you who have known me over the years.
drew
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best,
drew
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310-733-9285
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo<ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
> Apologies if I've posted this before, or if it's been answered already,
> but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
>
> 1) Works with stereo WAV files
>
> 2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
>
> 3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this
> disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
>
> 4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
>
> 5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
> Freewheeling, last I used it)
>
> 6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
>
> 7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of
> the DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
>
> 8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
>
> 9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's
> not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
>
> Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be
> able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a
> rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about
> item (5) above.
>
> -ken
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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 05/28/2009 04:28 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 May 2009 13:39:35 you wrote:
>
>> drew Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:37:08 Ronald Stewart wrote:
>>>
<snip>
http://www.indamixx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1…
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Indamixx-Indamixx-Laptop?sku=5…
8:43 p.m.
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 17:57:22 frank pirrone wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Hmmm...
Energy XT 2.1 http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0200
Is this possibly the software that can do what Ken wants? Patrick, this one
doesn't seem to be OSS. Am I missing something again?
all the best,
drew
On 05/28/2009 04:28 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 May 2009 13:39:35 you wrote:
>> drew Roberts wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 22:37:08 Ronald Stewart wrote:
<snip>
http://www.indamixx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1…
=34
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Indamixx-Indamixx-Laptop?sku=5
80122 
28 May
28 May
3:42 a.m.
drew Roberts wrote:
Energy XT 2.1
http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0200
Is this possibly the software that can do what Ken wants? Patrick, this one
doesn't seem to be OSS. Am I missing something again?
EnergyXT is a sequencer/DAW. It hasn't got any live features, so "no" it
wont help Ken...
--
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27 May
27 May
2 a.m.
TerminatorX?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already, but
I'm looking for a simple looper that:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this
disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
Freewheeling, last I used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some of the
DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though that's not
so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might be able
to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But I've had a rough time
with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit concerned about item (5) above.
-ken
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5:40 a.m.
Eric Steinberg wrote:
TerminatorX?
tX should not be over looked. It is amazingly stable and powerful
although the interface is (was) a bit blocky to use. I was doing full
live sets with it 7 years ago with no problems. The svn/cvs/git version
is well worth the time it takes to compile and Alexander Koenig is very
receptive to suggestions.
H2 or almost any other sequencer can also be used as a looper in
combination with jack-rack or any other fx processor.
tX and H2 have advanced midi interface support.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo
<ken(a)restivo.org
<mailto:ken@restivo.org>> wrote:
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if it's been answered
already, but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e.
this disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
Freewheeling, last I used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some
of the DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though
that's not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might
be able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But
I've had a rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit
concerned about item (5) above.
-ken
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28 May
4:19 a.m.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:41:51PM +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Eric Steinberg wrote:
> TerminatorX?
>
tX should not be over looked. It is amazingly stable
and powerful
although the interface is (was) a bit blocky to use. I was doing full
live sets with it 7 years ago with no problems. The svn/cvs/git version
is well worth the time it takes to compile and Alexander Koenig is very
receptive to suggestions.
Awesome, thanks!
It looks like TerminatorX will be what I'l be using!
I had somewhat stupidly dismissed it years ago as being a "DJ thing". As you
point out, I was wrong wrong wrong. It's a great little looper, and does everything I
want (except for JACK Transport, apparently). It's simple, fast, easy to do MIDI
bindings, and runs on my netbook.
Since my Dual-Core 64-bit laptop is still being sorted out from upgrading to Lenny,
I'll be using my netbook for the show.
And by the way, I don't mind the Indiamixx guys hijacking the thread to hype their
product. The key to success is shameless, relentless self-promotion. Speaking of which, if
anyone wants to see an EEE running Linux being used as an instrument, I'm doing a
short duo set (Linux and congas) at Epicenter Cafe, 764 Harrison between 3rd/4th (next to
Whole Foods), San Francisco, tomorrow May 28th between 7PM and 9PM. Free, come on by and
hang out if you're in the area.
H2 or almost any other sequencer can also be used as a looper in
combination with jack-rack or any other fx processor.
I'm familiar with Hydrogen, but that's a drum machine. And, the version I have has
no MIDI support other than note on/off. Or is H2 a Linux sequencer that I haven't yet
used?
tX and H2 have advanced midi interface support.
Indeed. Thanks again for your help!
-ken
--------------
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org
> <mailto:ken@restivo.org>> wrote:
>
> Apologies if I've posted this before, or if it's been answered
> already, but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
>
> 1) Works with stereo WAV files
>
> 2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
>
> 3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e.
> this disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
>
> 4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
>
> 5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
> Freewheeling, last I used it)
>
> 6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
>
> 7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some
> of the DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
>
> 8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
>
> 9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though
> that's not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
>
> Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might
> be able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But
> I've had a rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit
> concerned about item (5) above.
>
> -ken
4:36 a.m.
On 05/28/2009 01:18 PM, Ken Restivo wrote:
I'm really looking forward to the next release of hydrogen (h2) which
is shaping up to be an incredibly powerful midi sequencer and sample
based looper with much of the same or similar functionality to ableton
live under the hood. Different interface though. I plan on thrashing it
a bit in the next couple of months. If you have the motivation to put
some time in I'm sure you will appreciate the results.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:41:51PM +0700, Patrick
Shirkey wrote:
I would have thought that Alexander had implemented jack transport by
now. He was one of the first to implement full jack support so, maybe it
is available in the dev version. It's very easy to compile btw but you
might have to contact him directly to get access to the repo.
Eric Steinberg wrote:
> TerminatorX?
>
>
tX should not be over looked. It is amazingly
stable and powerful
although the interface is (was) a bit blocky to use. I was doing full
live sets with it 7 years ago with no problems. The svn/cvs/git version
is well worth the time it takes to compile and Alexander Koenig is very
receptive to suggestions.
Awesome, thanks!
It looks like TerminatorX will be what I'l be using!
I had somewhat stupidly dismissed it years ago as being a "DJ thing". As you
point out, I was wrong wrong wrong. It's a great little looper, and does everything I
want (except for JACK Transport, apparently). It's simple, fast, easy to do MIDI
bindings, and runs on my netbook.
Since my Dual-Core 64-bit laptop is still being sorted
out from upgrading to Lenny, I'll be using my netbook for the show.
And by the way, I don't mind the Indiamixx guys hijacking the thread to hype their
product. The key to success is shameless, relentless self-promotion. Speaking of which, if
anyone wants to see an EEE running Linux being used as an instrument, I'm doing a
short duo set (Linux and congas) at Epicenter Cafe, 764 Harrison between 3rd/4th (next to
Whole Foods), San Francisco, tomorrow May 28th between 7PM and 9PM. Free, come on by and
hang out if you're in the area.
Sounds like a good time and hopefully you will get a nice meal for your
efforts too.
I hadn't thought about tX on a netbook but it makes sense as I was
running it on my celeron 1Ghz/768MB for a couple of years without any
major issues. If you have your latency sorted I would like to hear your
assessment post gig regarding its performance at low latency. I never
had any problems but I was using usb audio and couldn't get it down
lower 5ms at the time. tX has a lot of power under the hood and I have
often though that using it with hydrogen is the closest we have to a
competitive solution for abelton live fanboys.
If the two interfaces could be integrated into one it would really be
something special. However jack provides us with everything we need to
make them work together which has gives us just as much power and
probably more.
H2 or almost
any other sequencer can also be used as a looper in
combination with jack-rack or any other fx processor.
I'm familiar with Hydrogen, but that's a drum machine. And, the version I have
has no MIDI support other than note on/off. Or is H2 a Linux sequencer that I haven't
yet used?
tX and H2 have
advanced midi interface support.
Indeed. Thanks again for your help!
-ken
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>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ken Restivo<ken(a)restivo.org
>> <mailto:ken@restivo.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Apologies if I've posted this before, or if it's been answered
>> already, but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
>>
>> 1) Works with stereo WAV files
>>
>> 2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
>>
>> 3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e.
>> this disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
>>
>> 4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
>>
>> 5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
>> Freewheeling, last I used it)
>>
>> 6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
>>
>> 7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some
>> of the DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
>>
>> 8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
>>
>> 9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though
>> that's not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
>>
>> Hmm, after writing all that, it occurred to me that ecasound might
>> be able to do this, which I'd be perfectly willing to try. But
>> I've had a rough time with ecasound and ALSA MIDI so I'm a bit
>> concerned about item (5) above.
>>
>> -ken
>> 
27 May
27 May
2:13 a.m.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already, but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
...
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this disqualifies
SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
SL has had the ability to save a session with audio files for a while
now. Once you do that, when you load it up all the audio is loaded as
well, in a paused state. It pretty much meets all the other
requirements too with the exception of #9.
jlc
3:43 a.m.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:13:15AM -0400, Jesse Chappell wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Ken Restivo
<ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Thanks!
Debian has version 1.0.8c (!) as the latest SooperLooper version.
Guenter Geiger seems to be the Debian maintainer for SooperLooper, but for some reason has
let quite a few versions go by.
I'll grab the latest (1.6.13) and see how it goes.
-ken
Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already, but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
...
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this disqualifies
SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
SL has had the ability to save a session with audio files for a while
now. Once you do that, when you load it up all the audio is loaded as
well, in a paused state. It pretty much meets all the other
requirements too with the exception of #9.
4:55 a.m.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:43:19PM -0700, Ken Restivo wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:13:15AM -0400, Jesse
Chappell wrote:
hey people, dont forget http://freewheeling.sourceforge.net/
its still the mother of all loopers.
and its VERY deep.
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Ken Restivo
<ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Thanks!
Debian has version 1.0.8c (!) as the latest SooperLooper version.
Guenter Geiger seems to be the Debian maintainer for SooperLooper, but for some reason
has let quite a few versions go by.
I'll grab the latest (1.6.13) and see how it goes. Apologies if I've posted this before, or if
it's been answered already, but I'm looking for a simple looper that:
...
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file (i.e. this disqualifies
SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
SL has had the ability to save a session with audio files for a while
now. Once you do that, when you load it up all the audio is loaded as
well, in a paused state. It pretty much meets all the other
requirements too with the exception of #9.
4:52 a.m.
Jesse Chappell wrote:
SL has had the ability to save a session with audio
files for a while
now. Once you do that, when you load it up all the audio is loaded as
well, in a paused state. It pretty much meets all the other
requirements too with the exception of #9.
Is it possible to sync sooperlooper via osc? It is stable (more stable
than freewhelin)?
--
Atte
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5:27 a.m.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:52:18AM +0200, Atte André Jensen wrote:
Is it possible to sync sooperlooper via osc? It is
stable (more stable
than freewhelin)?
Please note that JP did work on these stability issues. Furthermore, the
latest SVN version features an automatic crash log and he asks for your
help:
"If you encounter a crash, please send me this file along with a
description of what you were doing when the crash occurred. Thank you."
I know that this won't be much of a help if it crashes on you during a
live show but sending these reports might be more in the spirit of free
software than just abandoning FW.
Jan
5:34 a.m.
Jan Weil wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:52:18AM +0200, Atte André
Jensen wrote:
I would never go live with an app that I hadn't tested completely for
the duration of the live performance in a practice setting. Anything
that can be done in a practice setting will work in a live setting as
long as the setup procedure is followed exactly.
Now if you are suggesting that people should experiment with their OSS
software in a live situation then that is really going to make things
difficult for stability ;-)
Is it possible to sync sooperlooper via osc? It
is stable (more stable
than freewhelin)?
Please note that JP did work on these stability issues. Furthermore, the
latest SVN version features an automatic crash log and he asks for your
help:
"If you encounter a crash, please send me this file along with a
description of what you were doing when the crash occurred. Thank you."
I know that this won't be much of a help if it crashes on you during a
live show but sending these reports might be more in the spirit of free
software than just abandoning FW.
Jan
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5:40 a.m.
Good point Jan.
I'm using latest svn of Freewheeling, v0.6.1, and it seems a lot more
stable. You just need to install gdb (the GNU debugger) to generate the
crash reports. I just installed gdb, and I will try to crash FW tonight.
Norv
7:24 a.m.
Jan Weil wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:52:18AM +0200, Atte André
Jensen wrote:
I didn't mean to bash freewheelin, sorry.
That aside: is it possible to sync sooperlooper or freewhelin to osc?
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Is it possible to sync sooperlooper via osc? It
is stable (more stable
than freewhelin)?
Please note that JP did work on these stability issues. Furthermore, the
latest SVN version features an automatic crash log and he asks for your
help: 
9:08 a.m.
Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> writes:
1) Works with stereo WAV files
2) Is loop-oriented not sample-oriented (i.e. not like Jackbeat)
3) Lets you pre-load the loops and stores them with the file
(i.e. this disqualifies SooperLooper, from last I played with it).
4) Is very CPU-stingy enough to run on a netbook.
5) Is very stable and won't die in the middle of a show (i.e. not
Freewheeling, last I used it)
6) Has MIDI controls for the loops and levels/mixer/muting for them.
7) Can handle up to about 5 simultaneous loops (i.e. not like some
of the DJ-oriented stuff that handles only two at a time).
8) Of course, is JACK-ified and RT capable.
9) Optionally has some way of picking/moving loop points, though
that's not so critical since I can use Rezound for that off-line.
SuperCollider
Fits all your criteria, but lacks JACK MIDI and JACK TRANSPORT. It's
possible to control JACK TRANSPORT over OSC, but wont be absolutely
correct.
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