On Wednesday 14 September 2011 21:35, Ken Restivo wrote: Well, the fact that you said "ink cartridges" probably means you're not interested in this, but we got a Brother HL-2140 laser a couple years ago from Newegg for 60 bucks and the generic toner available for it is about 25 bucks. We have it set up on our Linux server and access it from our Linux laptops through CUPS, and we've printed thousands of pages without a problem. It was totally plug and play under Ubuntu Hardy, so it's been around a while. Newegg has a newer model with duplex for 80 bucks as I type this, but it seems to have been a sale that ends tonight. I have no idea if the new ones still use the same driver. But it is black and white, and a laser, so not as energy-efficient as an inkjet. We got an HP Officejet 4500 g510n (they really need to rethink their naming scheme) all-in-one, mostly for scanning but do what little color printing we need to do on it. We had to mess around with it a bit to get it working on Ubuntu 9.10, but 10.04 and up seem fine. We're able to print to it and scan from it over wifi without hooking it up to a computer. A full set of first-party ink runs about 40 bucks, but we're still on our first set so I can't comment on how long they last. You can find "remanufactured" (meaning refilled) ones for a little less, but I don't think I've seen generic ink for it yet. I don't think I'd print my family photos on it or anything, but my old standby Epson has really fallen hard for the "charge more for the toner than the printer" model the last few years. So, any port in a storm.

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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, <maex(a)firstfloor.org> wrote: Immanuel

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:25 AM, immanuel litzroth <ilitzroth(a)gmail.com> wrote: In that case, dot matrix is your best bet: http://youtu.be/Ht96HJ01SE4 Rock Lobster and The Beautiful People, covered by robots of the same user's creation, are musically cleaner, but this is the best demonstration of the dot matrix "vocalist."

On 9/15/11, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote: Hi Ken, Finally watched some thread links. Those machines kicking it Radiohead-style w/array of disk drive speakers was nice! As a side note & more OT, & I hope not too disappointing to you in some way, I love your little synth piece, monosynthfun2-withb3. When you posted it, I think you said you'd just knocked it out & felt you'd played a bit sloppy or s/t, but I've listened a lot & love it. To me, the piece has such a weirdly dreamy melancholy aspect that I find it completely compelling & works as solo instrumentation. & w/a nod to the b3, you managed a great sound & nice touch. I like everywhere the song goes in the 2 or so minute duration. Wish I could play 1/10th as well. Actually, I didn't intend to say more than that that song's a mad little pleasure for me.

.................................................... Hi Luke, Thanks for the link. I think I like the visuals on this more than the piece. I've never quite fathomed Queen. But after a few listens I'm starting to like this version. .................................................... & Hi James, Thanks, too. I didn't know of her. Great sound & like the hardcopy scores born w/the music. I'll check out s/stuff she has on myspace.

On 15 September 2011 14:55, Luke Peterson <luke.peterson(a)gmail.com> wrote: I prefer the way Sue Harding works; she is using the printer to create music rather than using a sampler ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KsHuPSCRIM (Someone posted it to faceback the otherday)

James.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, &lt;maex(a)firstfloor.org <mailto:maex@firstfloor.org>> wrote: is this now, a how to equip my computer list? No, we eventually plan to use the printers to make music -- bear with us. Immanuel

Rob wrote: NOTE: inkjet cartridges will dry out on their own, even if they're not used.

On Thursday 15 September 2011 14:43:14 fred wrote: Laser is imho recommended both when you print much (>10 pages a day) and when you print very little (~10 print-jobs a year). The advantage of laser for high-volume doesn't need to be told, but for very low volume a laser is at an advantage too: You can completely disconnect the printer when not using it. With an inkjet you have the choice of unplugging the printer (and have the print-head dried out when you need to print that urgent document due tomorrow morning), or leave it connected to the mains and use power constantly to regularly keep the ink running a little. Needless to say that this consumes power and ink in times where you are not printing at all. And one filling of laser-toner last longer than one filling of ink (general statement abstracted from any printer models). So, if you have the choice and don't need to print colors that much, get a laser to print your sheets, cd inlets or backup-tape-logs. And to emphasize what fred says, the fastest and cheapest and greenest printing job is not printing at all.

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Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2011-09-15 15:29:01 +0200: Thanks Arnold, I didn't realise the thing about power. That explains why mine dried out. It doesn't explain why it completely refuses to print, even black, when any cartridge is dried or expired (HP), but that's another story I guess. This printer mutated to a scanner and card reader.

Ken Restivo wrote: Hi Ken, I bought an HP Deskjet 6540 many moons ago, on the advice of a Linux Printers web site. I love this machine. In my teaching it gets used a lot, and no, I don't like buying cartridges, but I haven't bought a new one for a long while, I just get the old ones refilled at a local center. It's not a cheap printer, but I was advised that cheap printers and Linux don't mix so well. Best, dp ______________________________**_________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@lists.**linuxaudio.org<Linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/**listinfo/linux-audio-user<http://lists.lin…

Ken Restivo wrote: We've been using HP LaserJets for ages here at home. Currently have a LaserJet P2015D (can automatically print both sides of a sheet). They work fine with CUPS. You get a LOT of pages out of a toner cartridge (typical average figures are 3000 pages). I think in the last 12 years of using laser printers, we've only had to buy 2 replacement cartridges. They print MUCH faster than inkjets! There are other brands out there, too. I've heard good things about Brother laser printers. They're cheaper than HPs. Ages back, I used a Lexmark 4039 laser printer. It was a workhorse - never broke down even though it was old when I inherited it. Never had a paper jam. Of course, the 4039s weren't "affordably priced" printers ... The same employer had an HP LaserJet I (yes, the first HP laser jet printer) hooked up to their mainframe and used it to print out daily financial reports. Roughly 300-500 pages each day, 7 days a week. I worked there 13 years. They'd had it for I don't know how many years before that. A few years before I left there, it finally quit printing - because a tooth on a small plastic wheel inside had FINALLY broken. They could have gotten the replacement part from HP and repaired it, but they decided it was time to get a faster laser ... Anyway, I've like HP lasers very much since then. -- David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user