29 Dec
2003
29 Dec
'03
1:18 p.m.
I'm trying to use the Gate plugins (from the swh plugin collection) with
Ardour. Seems like that isn't quite the right place for them - there
seems to be no place for the non-audio input / output?
So what other app could I use them in?
thanks
John
29 Dec
29 Dec
5:07 p.m.
Hallo,
John Anderson hat gesagt: // John Anderson wrote:
I'm trying to use the Gate plugins (from the swh
plugin collection) with
Ardour. Seems like that isn't quite the right place for them - there
seems to be no place for the non-audio input / output?
So what other app could I use them in?
There are a lot of applications that can host LADSPA plugins, so it
very much depends on what you want to achieve.
Maybe Pd helps: there's not much that cannot be achieved with Pure
Data. ;)
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
5:41 p.m.
John,
Looking at the Gate plugins (ids 1921 and 1922) I don't see a
non-audio input or output. They should work fine in ardour.
To get the gui to edit the parameters, do a Ctrl-Right click on
the name in the plugin list in the mixer strip. Give it a try,
and if you have more problems, address them to ardour-users mailing
list....
jlc
Frank Barknecht wrote on Mon, 29-Dec-2003:
Hallo,
John Anderson hat gesagt: // John Anderson wrote:
I'm trying to use the Gate plugins (from the
swh plugin collection) with
Ardour. Seems like that isn't quite the right place for them - there
seems to be no place for the non-audio input / output?
So what other app could I use them in?
There are a lot of applications that can host LADSPA plugins, so it
very much depends on what you want to achieve.
Maybe Pd helps: there's not much that cannot be achieved with Pure
Data. ;)
ciao
30 Dec
30 Dec
1:33 a.m.
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 23:36, Jesse Chappell wrote:
John,
Looking at the Gate plugins (ids 1921 and 1922) I don't see a
non-audio input or output. They should work fine in ardour.
To get the gui to edit the parameters, do a Ctrl-Right click on
the name in the plugin list in the mixer strip. Give it a try,
and if you have more problems, address them to ardour-users mailing
list....
I guess it's my conception of a gate that's faulty then. I thought a
gate would have input and output for a signal, and then some other input
to tell it when it's open and when it's closed. So if I wanted to, say,
gate the reverb on a drum, I could have a send to a separate bus, then
put in a reverb as the plugin on that bus. Then I could attach the
output of the drum to the gate so that when there's an audio signal on
the drum input, the gate would pass the reverb signal from it's input to
its output.
Is that the wrong way to think of a gate?
bye
John
5:20 a.m.
John Anderson a écrit :
I guess it's my conception of a gate that's
faulty then. I thought a
gate would have input and output for a signal, and then some other input
to tell it when it's open and when it's closed. So if I wanted to, say,
gate the reverb on a drum, I could have a send to a separate bus, then
put in a reverb as the plugin on that bus. Then I could attach the
output of the drum to the gate so that when there's an audio signal on
the drum input, the gate would pass the reverb signal from it's input to
its output.
Is that the wrong way to think of a gate?
bye
John
Well not really, some gates can do that, but it's not usual. Usually the
gate "gate" a signal when the same signal is below a threshold.
What you need is a sidechain input. I don't think there is such a plugin
for LADSPA, a stereo expander with sidechain input could do the job, but
the SE3 does not exist yet !!
Christophe
6:26 a.m.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 10:21:47 +0100, Vescovi Christophe wrote:
What you need is a sidechain input. I don't think
there is such a plugin
for LADSPA, a stereo expander with sidechain input could do the job, but
the SE3 does not exist yet !!
Indeed. It wouldn't be hard to write, though if you wanted to use it in
ardour it may be tricky anyway. IIRC Ardour doesnt handle plugins with
different numbers of inputs and outputs well.
- Steve
7:28 a.m.
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:23 pm, Steve Harris wrote:
On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 10:21:47 +0100, Vescovi
Christophe wrote:
Oh. I would find sidechaining a signal thru a limiter to bring out
the vocals or feature instrument an absolute necessity for mastering
so would anyone have an idea the best way to go to make this possible ?
BTW the technique is called "ducking" in some radio circles and is
most evident on AM radio when the announcer starts speaking the
background music drops in volume... it's not a monkey riding a
slider to get that mandatory affect.
--markc
What you need is a sidechain input. I don't
think there is such a plugin
for LADSPA, a stereo expander with sidechain input could do the job, but
the SE3 does not exist yet !!
Indeed. It wouldn't be hard to write, though if you wanted to use it in
ardour it may be tricky anyway. IIRC Ardour doesnt handle plugins with
different numbers of inputs and outputs well.
8:49 a.m.
Hallo,
Mark Constable hat gesagt: // Mark Constable wrote:
Oh. I would find sidechaining a signal thru a limiter
to bring out
the vocals or feature instrument an absolute necessity for mastering
so would anyone have an idea the best way to go to make this possible ?
BTW the technique is called "ducking" in some radio circles and is
most evident on AM radio when the announcer starts speaking the
background music drops in volume... it's not a monkey riding a
slider to get that mandatory affect.
You can try with the sidechain-enabled compressors by Steve.
("SCxy").
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
1 Jan
1 Jan
11:22 a.m.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 09:26:00 +1000, Mark Constable wrote:
Dont you do both of those with a sidechain compressor?
If you used a sidechain expander then the backing would be silent when
there was no voive and loud when there was.
- Steve
Indeed. It
wouldn't be hard to write, though if you wanted to use it in
ardour it may be tricky anyway. IIRC Ardour doesnt handle plugins with
different numbers of inputs and outputs well.
Oh. I would find sidechaining a signal thru a limiter to bring out
the vocals or feature instrument an absolute necessity for mastering
so would anyone have an idea the best way to go to make this possible ?
BTW the technique is called "ducking" in some radio circles and is
most evident on AM radio when the announcer starts speaking the
background music drops in volume... it's not a monkey riding a
slider to get that mandatory affect.
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