14 Feb
2014
14 Feb
'14
11:57 p.m.
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:32:29 +0100
raf <rmouneyres(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
i'd recommend to create a tempo map (vs timestreching which would
lead to artefacts) As you mention recording in ardour, you could use
it to create the tempo map,
hi, what is a "tempo map" and how do you create it in ardour? couldn't
find anything about it. I don't want to manually enter single tempo
changes in ardour
meanwhile I'm looking into klick, it seems it should work (though can't
get it to sync to jack transport ATM) - but this way the tempo changes
will not get recorded into ardour... i.e. every time I press play I
should also somehow start klick...
renato
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15 Feb
15 Feb
10:03 a.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014, 23:57:04 schrieb Renato:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:32:29 +0100
raf <rmouneyres(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means putting several decreasing tempo markers for your accelerando to
ardour's timeline, then re-record hydrogen while both sync to jack transport - then
hydrogen should follow ardour's tempo and there would be no need for
timestretching...
Edgar
Hello,
i'd recommend to create a tempo map (vs timestreching which would
lead to artefacts) As you mention recording in ardour, you could use
it to create the tempo map,
hi, what is a "tempo map" and how do you create it in ardour? couldn't
find anything about it. I don't want to manually enter single tempo
changes in ardour
meanwhile I'm looking into klick, it seems it should work (though can't
get it to sync to jack transport ATM) - but this way the tempo changes
will not get recorded into ardour... i.e. every time I press play I
should also somehow start klick...
renato
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6:15 p.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:03:07 +0100
Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at> wrote:
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014, 23:57:04 schrieb
Renato:
well yeah that was my idea from the start... probably I should have
be more clear (and not use "time stretch" in the subject). The problem
is that manually inputing tempo changes won't give a smooth enough
accelerando, and it's not a very nice way of doing things anyway. I'm
looking for a more automated solution
Does anyone know if the script klick2ardour.py is supposed to work with
ardour 3 sessions? It does nothing to my session
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:32:29 +0100
raf <rmouneyres(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means putting several decreasing tempo markers for your
accelerando to ardour's timeline, then re-record hydrogen while both
sync to jack transport - then hydrogen should follow ardour's tempo
and there would be no need for timestretching...
Hello,
i'd recommend to create a tempo map (vs timestreching which would
lead to artefacts) As you mention recording in ardour, you could
use it to create the tempo map,
hi, what is a "tempo map" and how do you create it in ardour?
couldn't find anything about it. I don't want to manually enter
single tempo changes in ardour
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6:28 p.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:15:24 +0100
Renato <rennabh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:03:07 +0100
Edgar Aichinger <edogawa(a)aon.at> wrote:
Don't know if this is any
help, but in the current version of Rosegarden you
can mark a starting tempo and a finishing tempo and tell it to slowly go from
one to the other. You can go either faster or slower, and set as many markers
as you like.
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014, 23:57:04 schrieb
Renato:
well yeah that was my idea from the start... probably I should have
be more clear (and not use "time stretch" in the subject). The problem
is that manually inputing tempo changes won't give a smooth enough
accelerando, and it's not a very nice way of doing things anyway. I'm
looking for a more automated solution
Does anyone know if the script klick2ardour.py is supposed to work with
ardour 3 sessions? It does nothing to my session On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:32:29 +0100
raf <rmouneyres(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means putting several decreasing tempo markers for your
accelerando to ardour's timeline, then re-record hydrogen while both
sync to jack transport - then hydrogen should follow ardour's tempo
and there would be no need for timestretching...
Hello,
i'd recommend to create a tempo map (vs timestreching which would
lead to artefacts) As you mention recording in ardour, you could
use it to create the tempo map,
hi, what is a "tempo map" and how do you create it in ardour?
couldn't find anything about it. I don't want to manually enter
single tempo changes in ardour
11:42 p.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:28:46 +0000
Will Godfrey <willgodfrey(a)musically.me.uk> wrote:
Don't know if this is any help, but in the current
version of
Rosegarden you can mark a starting tempo and a finishing tempo and
tell it to slowly go from one to the other. You can go either faster
or slower, and set as many markers as you like.
Thanks, it's of great help, as ATM it seems the only way I'll have some
success with this :) The trouble is Hydrogen, Ardour and Rosegarden are
all following Jack Transport allright, but I can't see how to declare
Rosegarden as master in the preferences (nor Ardour as slave) -
Hydrogen instead has a "J. Master" button, which is unpressed.
Right now I have a tempo ramp up defined in rosegarden, and as the
transport goes through it I can see the BPMs changing in Rosegarden,
but not in Ardour nor in Hydrogen... and the playback speed remains the
same. The transport though is indeed syncronized (hitting pause pauses
all three programs and so on).
Maybe there were some recent changes to how Jack Transport works? Am
I missing something or is this behaviour indeed strange?
renato
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11:56 p.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
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Right now I have a tempo ramp up defined in
rosegarden, and as the
transport goes through it I can see the BPMs changing in Rosegarden,
but not in Ardour nor in Hydrogen... and the playback speed remains
the same. The transport though is indeed syncronized (hitting pause
pauses all three programs and so on).
I actually saw now that play, pause and stop operations are indeed
synchronized, but the transport moves faster in Rosegarden, due to the
tempo ramp up: after that Rosegarden is ahead of the others, and its
tranpsport is moving faster.
Is this a bug somewhere?
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16 Feb
16 Feb
2:18 a.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Renato <rennabh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
----but I can't see how to declare
Rosegarden as master in the preferences (nor Ardour as slave) -
Session > Properties > Sync .... choose the external clock source
Then use the clock source button just right of the transport buttons to
switch between the internal clock and the chosen external clock source.
Right now I have a tempo ramp up defined in
rosegarden, and as the
transport goes through it I can see the BPMs changing in Rosegarden,
but not in Ardour nor in Hydrogen...
ardour does not pay any attention to JACK tempo information.
2:29 p.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 20:18:53 -0500
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Renato
<rennabh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, thanks; isn't it strange to have it there and not in the Transport
tab in Preferences, where all the other sync options are?
Last night after lot of cursing I finally did manage to do what I was
after, with Ardour and klick. The two things I was doing wrong were
having Ardour set as Jack Master (because I was looking for that option
in the Preferences) and not understanding how klick works. Basically,
if you have a tempo map file like this
firstpart: 10 120
secondpart: 2 120
4 120-135
lastpart: 10 135
you just have to run "klick -T -f tempo_map_file" and, whenever in
hydrogen (for example) you'll move the playhead to measure 13, it will
start ramping up the tempo to 135 in 4 measures. My misunderstanding
was that it would start counting measures from the moment you executed
the klick command, instead like this of course it's much better, you
can even put that command in your non-session and forget about it
thanks to all that helped me :=)
renato
----but I can't see how to declare
Rosegarden as master in the preferences (nor Ardour as slave) -
Session > Properties > Sync .... choose the external clock source
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3:06 p.m.
New subject: progressive time stretch
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Renato <rennabh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
the choice of external clock is considered to be session specific, not
global to ardour. in some sessions you might sync to LTC, on others to MTC,
on others to JACK and on others just use the internal clock. thus, it is
not a global preference and so (like all other session properties) it lives
in Session > Properties, not in Edit > Preferences.
--p
Session > Properties > Sync .... choose
the external clock source
Hi, thanks; isn't it strange to have it there and not in the Transport
tab in Preferences, where all the other sync options are?
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