30 Oct
2012
30 Oct
'12
5:49 a.m.
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
30 Oct
30 Oct
7:22 a.m.
Could try Ardour or Mixbus?
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From: Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>
To: linux-audio-user <Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 3:49 PM
Subject: [LAU] Audio distro for a Macbook pro
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
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7:27 a.m.
On 10/30/2012 02:22 AM, chris kennedy wrote:
Could try Ardour or Mixbus?
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*Sent:* Tuesday, 30 October 2012 3:49 PM
*Subject:* [LAU] Audio distro for a Macbook pro
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
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I intend to get her going with Ardour, Rosegarden, or QTractor, but it's
the basic distro I'm stuck on. I don't know what ones people have had
good luck with on a MacBook Pro. I assume that, since the hardware is
less generic than a standard PC, that some distros work better than
others. I tried searching Distrowatch and google, but didn't come up
with anything conclusive. I don't want her to have tons of problems
getting things to work, as I live about an hour away from her (plus I
rather doubt my wife would much appreciate me going over there and
spending a lot of time!).
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7:30 a.m.
Oops sorry i misread your post. I used to run Ubuntu on a G4 powermac from memory most of
the big distro's debian, suse, ubuntu etc had ppc versions. Macs are intel based now
but. Sorry for rambling out loud i am genuinely interested in hearing answers on this
topic aswell.
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Subject: Re: [LAU] Audio distro for a Macbook pro
Could try Ardour or Mixbus?
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From: Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 3:49 PM
Subject: [LAU] Audio distro for a Macbook pro
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a
Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
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2:56 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to
check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
its hard to see why she would not use OS X on her MBP if audio/midi is the
goal. not all, but several of the better FOSS apps are available for OS X,
and that only adds to the vastly improved array of FX and synth plugins on
OS X.
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work here, but honestly,
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is herself a natural tinkerer
and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
3:01 p.m.
On 10/30/12 09:55, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com
<mailto:althompson58@gmail.com>> wrote:
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out
audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro...
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work here, but honestly,
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is herself a natural
tinkerer and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
Non-academic electroacoustic music too. :)
Best,
dp
3:05 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips(a)woh.rr.com>wrote;wrote:
On 10/30/12 09:55, Paul Davis wrote:
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work
here, but honestly,
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is herself a natural tinkerer
and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
Non-academic electroacoustic music too. :)
i think you got an honorary professorship years ago dave :)
3:13 p.m.
On 10/30/2012 09:55 AM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com
<mailto:althompson58@gmail.com>> wrote:
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out
audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI
(plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
its hard to see why she would not use OS X on her MBP if audio/midi is
the goal. not all, but several of the better FOSS apps are available
for OS X, and that only adds to the vastly improved array of FX and
synth plugins on OS X.
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work here, but honestly,
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is herself a natural
tinkerer and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
I think there are two primary triggers for her decision: she has
listened to a few of us at work extolling the virtues of Linux, and; she
abhors "corporate-ism." If the general consensus is that she would be
better off sticking with OS-X, I may suggest it. I have very little
experience with it personally, and 90% of my exposure has been from
"fanbois" who would be blind to even its most fatal flaws. I'm not even
sure of the current state of OS-X FOSS audio/MIDI software.
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My bands, CD projects, music, news, and pictures:
http://www.lateralforce.com
My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio,
mixing, equipment, etc, is at:
http://audioandmore.wordpress.com
Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch;
und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.'
- [Friedrich Nietzsche]
5:24 p.m.
On 30/10/12 14:55, Paul Davis wrote:
ar I
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is
herself a natural tinkerer
and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
Alas, as far as I can tell from my very personal totally-non-scientific
survey, in _Italy_ so-called "academic electroacoustic music" is using
58% OSX, 41.9% Windows, 0.1% other OS.
Last year I did a linux audio seminar for non-linux pleople, and knowing
the above statistics in advance I searched for a live distro which would
run on macs, AVLinux proved the best, only problem I couldn't get wifi
to work. I must say that my requirement was to have a multimedia distro
ready to go and which would just run from a CD
Lorenzo.
8:46 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Lorenzo Sutton
<lorenzofsutton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 30/10/12 14:55, Paul Davis wrote:
ar I
Getting wifi drivers for Linux on mac means having to extract the wifi
firmware from the OSX proprietary driver. So, knowing that, it's not
surprising that wifi on a Linux LiveCD will not work for macs. Nobody
is likely to extract all the possible firmwares you would need and
package them with Linux (it might even be illegal to distribute those
binaries that way).
Chuck
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is
herself a natural tinkerer
and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
Alas, as far as I can tell from my very personal totally-non-scientific
survey, in _Italy_ so-called "academic electroacoustic music" is using 58%
OSX, 41.9% Windows, 0.1% other OS.
Last year I did a linux audio seminar for non-linux pleople, and knowing the
above statistics in advance I searched for a live distro which would run on
macs, AVLinux proved the best, only problem I couldn't get wifi to work. I
must say that my requirement was to have a multimedia distro ready to go and
which would just run from a CD
Lorenzo. 
7:50 p.m.
I also use a MacBook Pro for music, and having been there and almost
getting what I wanted with Linux, I suggest she stick with OSX and check
out something like Reaper (not exactly FOSS, but don't pay if you don't
like it).
http://www.reaper.fm/
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>wrote;wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants
to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
its hard to see why she would not use OS X on her MBP if audio/midi is the
goal. not all, but several of the better FOSS apps are available for OS X,
and that only adds to the vastly improved array of FX and synth plugins on
OS X.
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work here, but honestly,
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is herself a natural tinkerer
and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
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10:19 p.m.
She could also run a dual boot with OSX and Debian see
http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Double_boot_-_Mac_OS_X_.26_Debian
You'd want to recompile a stock kernel on debian to make realtime or lowlatency or you
could simply download one as a .deb file.
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From: Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>
To: Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>
Cc: linux-audio-user <Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LAU] Audio distro for a Macbook pro
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and
I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
its hard to see why she would not use OS X on her MBP if audio/midi is the goal. not all,
but several of the better FOSS apps are available for OS X, and that only adds to the
vastly improved array of FX and synth plugins on OS X.
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work here, but honestly, she'll get more
done with OS X unless she is herself a natural tinkerer and/or has "odd" needs
(e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
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31 Oct
31 Oct
8:20 a.m.
I once tried to dual boot Ubuntustudio on a MBP, I wasn't blown away lets
say. Also every generation of Macs has different hardware specs and I found
it pretty difficult to find out specific chipset vendors (before buying),
in my case the Firewire chipset.
That said I didn't really put a lot of work into getting it to a stable
status. As for now I just stick with Mixbus on OSX for my mobile rig.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:19 PM, chris kennedy <cobberdig(a)yahoo.com.au>wrote;wrote:
She could also run a dual boot with OSX and Debian see
http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Double_boot_-_Mac_OS_X_.26_Debian
You'd want to recompile a stock kernel on debian to make realtime or
lowlatency or you could simply download one as a .deb file.
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*From:* Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>
*To:* Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>
*Cc:* linux-audio-user <Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:55 AM
*Subject:* Re: [LAU] Audio distro for a Macbook pro
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Al Thompson <althompson58(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
So a friend of mine at work has decided she wants to check out audio and
MIDI on Linux. BUT, she has a Macbook Pro, and I've never paid any
attention to distros that were for Macs. What's a good audio/MIDI (plus
general purpose) distro that is easy to get running on a Macbook Pro?
its hard to see why she would not use OS X on her MBP if audio/midi is the
goal. not all, but several of the better FOSS apps are available for OS X,
and that only adds to the vastly improved array of FX and synth plugins on
OS X.
i appreciate that there may be a principle at work here, but honestly,
she'll get more done with OS X unless she is herself a natural tinkerer
and/or has "odd" needs (e.g. academic electroacoustic music)
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3:45 p.m.
http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro
This might be enough info to get Debian working. Do you think RT will
be needed?
I've had mixed success with Linux on iMacs. The problems tend to
center around boot loaders, for me.
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