So you'd all recommend large-diaphragm condensers? I'm not sure if I prefer small or large... On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:20 PM, jonetsu <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote:

Hi, Is that your setup or is there a mic preamp involved? If not you will HAVE to use one to get the signal that comes out of the microphone to a proper working level. Also I'm wondering that you get any signal at all through a passive DI box having no phantom power... My mic preference on a budget would be the "Bluebird" by Blue, which has a very pleasant harmonic distortion in the lowmids, and is pretty cheap too. Not so on a budget an EV re20 or AKG 414 or a combination, relying also on room size and acoustics. Hope that helps anyway.. Moshe

For the last accoustic guitar recording I made I used an Audio Technica 2021 (or similar AT small diaphragm condenser) and a Sure SM57. I thought the combination sounded nice. It was a standard guitar, not a bass, so I can't vouch for what would happen in that lowest octave. I got the condenser at a pawn shop for about $75. Clearly that mic is happy being plugged right in to your 1010. Some of these others will not be. You can buy a phantom power supply that does nothing but provide 48v to the mic if now isn't a good time to invest in a mixer or dedicated pre-amp. Samson, AT and various other companies make them. -Neil -- DJ Dual Core's Blog http://oldmixtapes.blogspot.com/ Order without government; Peace without violence.

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 05:38:00PM -0500, jonetsu wrote: Me too. An 1010LT has two mic inputs. So what's the point of using the DI box ? -- FA Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal, die Sonne scheint - ein Glitzerstrahl.

Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote : Oh sorry didn't see that... On most recordings that I did with acoustic bass and/or double bass I didn't use the pickup because the sound is not as full as that from the mic. Also you have to play with the mic and source position because when recording low frequency sources (i.e. bass) room modes have a great impact on the sound. You can have a great mic and place it in a dip where you don't get certain frequencies. This is even more relevant when recording in a small room. Hope that helps. Best regards, Moshe

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:19:37PM -0500, jonetsu wrote: There's still something not OK here. An M-audio Pulsar mic requires phantom power (30..50V). The 1010LT does *not* provide phantom power. So how is this supposed to work ? Maybe you could provide some really correct information, and spare us having to waste time by trying to understands things that don't make sense, downloading specs, etc. Anyway, a more expensive mic is not going to help if you can't obtain good results with this one. Others may sound a bit different, but you can probably get the same with a good parametric EQ. Moving your mic by 10 cm will make a bigger difference than what exists between any two decent studio mics. Ciao, -- FA Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal, die Sonne scheint - ein Glitzerstrahl.

On 02/12/2012 05:01 PM, jonetsu wrote: The 1010LT has mic preamps, doesn't it? I was under the impression that it had 8 switchable mic/line inputs. If they are indeed mic level inputs, you don't need a DI box - you simply need a phantom power supply. There are several available. Look for offerings from Nady, Rolls, Behringer, AT, etc. I'd try this one: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/behringer-micropower-ps400-phantom… If they are only line level inputs, you still don't want a DI box - you want a MIC PREAMP!!! -- --- http://lateralforce.no-ip.org My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at: http://audioandmore.wordpress.com Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' - [Friedrich Nietzsche]

On 02/12/2012 03:20 PM, jonetsu wrote: Well, get rid of the direct box, for one thing. You only need a direct box to convert a signal to a mic level, balanced signal of the proper impedance to be fed into a mic input. The output of a microphone is already a balanced, mic level signal of the proper impedance. -- --- http://lateralforce.no-ip.org My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at: http://audioandmore.wordpress.com Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' - [Friedrich Nietzsche]

At least you should prefer an external mixer because you want its preamps and if not, you should prefer a mic preamp IMHO if you are looking forward for a good sound. regards -r --------------------------------- Hi, The 1010LT has 2 builtin _MIC_ preamps so you can plug your mic directly to one of them (XLR inputs in the not so convenient snake cable). There is no point to have a DI in-between as mentioned before. I used to have a 1010LT way back in 2006-7. I switched to RME HDSP + Multiface II and RME QuadMic for some rather transparent preamps (would have liked OctaMic but they are already very pricey) . Each QuadMic channel has phantom power and the amplification is quite neutral throughout the entire gain range (I have not tested maxed-out but up to 3/4). The connection is Neutrik IIRC, it can take both XLR and  TRS cables. Anyway, I find the RME setup way better to my ears when compared to the 1010LT. But of course, if you want to keep your Delta card, then try to invest in a good mic preamp. The AD converters of the Delta should be good enough for a start. Preamps can shape your sound quite a lot depending on the type and brand. If you need something you can use sort of everywhere, opt for a neutral one. If you only use for acoustic (voice or guitar), then you may like a warmer option. I am not a pro or as knowledgeable as some of the folks around here but I am happy about my setup. Ah yeah, I use an AKG C414  XLII for acoustic stuff (voice and guitar mainly), really nice. But for a more generic mic, the C414 XLS might be more appropriate (wish I could get a stereo pair one of these days). I do have a stereo pair of pen-like MICs (Apex 185) but I have hardly used them due to family duties (no time for music production for ~ 2 years, it hurts sometimes ...). J. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user