Last Thursday 02 December 2004 19:40, Ben Edwards (lists) was like: For what you want it may work out easier to use Ardour with JAMin. I guess you need to run Jackd, I've never tried it otherwise. JAMin really is _the_ mastering app. tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk (close enough for laying on of hands if need be ;-)

On Thursday 02 December 2004 17:26, tim hall wrote: IMO there is a place for a simple recording utility that works with jack. Ardour isn't intuitive the way audacity is. This evening I managed to record 30 minutes of nothing with it.

Today's job was to try and get vst instruments working under linux. Learning Ardour was going to happen some time next week.

I can't do everything at once, but if there are no easy tools to take away some of the pain you end up having to be an instant expert in order to be able to do any creative work. There is also the instablity of many of the linux audio packages to be considered, particularly if you made an unfortunate decision somewhere along the line (SuSE 9.1 in my case - it's fine for a business desktop, but not for audio).

The more complex and minority-user-targeted the application the more problems you are likely to have. For what I needed to do this evening I would have used kRecord if it worked with Jack. Something simple that works (unlike me - I am both intensely cerebral and unemployed).

Is there Jack support in the Audacity source code? If so that may push me that bit closer to ditching SuSE and going back to Gentoo because Gentoo builds usually do actually build (except on macs). If the audio applications I've got running now are as unstable as they seem and won't play ball with each other I might as well do audio work with a casstte deck and an abacus.

I Think Jamin/Audacity will be a killer combination for simple recording.

Last Thursday 02 December 2004 19:40, Ben Edwards (lists) was like: For what you want it may work out easier to use Ardour with JAMin. I guess you need to run Jackd, I've never tried it otherwise.

JAMin really is _the_ mastering app.

tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk (close enough for laying on of hands if need be ;-)

Last Thursday 02 December 2004 19:40, Ben Edwards (lists) was like: For what you want it may work out easier to use Ardour with JAMin. I guess you need to run Jackd, I've never tried it otherwise. JAMin really is _the_ mastering app. tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk (close enough for laying on of hands if need be ;-)

Hi, --- ish(a)sarai.net wrote: I write a reply explaining the situation with producing Ardour documentation about once a month. Paul Davis has asked us not to document Ardour. The following is a letter written by him that explains his reasoning. "several people have written recently about documentation. there are people on the list who don't know about the situation with ardour's documentation, so i should probably explain. ardour has taken me nearly 5 years to write. during that time, i have received donations of about $2K from users, and the rest of the US$250,000 or so that it has cost to support my family has come from money i made from my brief employment with amazon.com. there is not much money left to do this with, perhaps another 6-10 months, and then i have to do something else. i am already interviewing for other work because of this. it is not at easy to come up with a plan to make money from software like ardour. it is a niche market with very little flowing around, an 800lb gorilla sitting in the corner (digidesign), a lot of competition and a lot of illegal distribution of both DAWs and plugins. oh, and i give the program away :) among the various half-formed plans that i have (they may never come to fruition) is to sell the manual for a reasonably significant sum of money. the only way i can feel comfortable with that is if i write the manual myself. obviously, people could volunteer to help with it, but it has to be with the clear and absolutely unambiguous understanding that there *might* be a real revenue stream from the manual and they will see *none* of it. not because they don't deserve it, but because i need it:) one way to avoid this particular plan would be to set up something roughly equivalent to the blender foundation. it wouldn't take a lot: 3 companies throwing in $15K/yr each would be sufficient. blender gets EU funding and support for Apple and some other companies, to the tune of about $1M last year. if something like this happened, i could forget the manual as a centerpiece of my plans, and open it up to a much more cooperative process. --p" There are many of us who would like to document Ardour. This is a situation where we really need to consider the interests of Paul Davis before we serve ourselves. Your interests in documenting JAMin are an entirely different matter because there are no restrictions discouraging you from doing that. ron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail