26 May
2005
26 May
'05
9:36 p.m.
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 21:02, Aaron Trumm wrote:
> > we just need a change from a tempo of 86bpm to 94bpm and back
again
> > ... how do we do this in ardour? will i have
to record the
hydrogen
> > tracks into ardour at the different tempos,
and then adjust the
> > ardour tempo track to match up? that would sort of suck ... other
> > approaches?
>
> I dunno if this'll work for your purposes, but what I'd do is create
> the proper tempo map in ardour, create a beat in hydrogen of the
right
> tempo for the section, export it as a .wav and
import it into ardour
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that's how
i do all my hydrogen stuff with ardour
but this way you can't simply change things as you like in realtime, i
don't
like this. sync out/in has to work so that both programs can be used realtime rather making wave files each time which is
ok if you are
doing
your
final mixdown.
Hi Aaron,
Unfortunately, Hydrogen is broken with regards to tempo changes at the
moment. (I'm using 0.9.1 and trying to work out where the problem lies,
but no luck so far.) There is a new beta release, 0.9.2.beta2 I think.
It might be worth giving that a try. I posted on the hydrogen forums
pointing out that the behaviour was broken, and there was no response;
but looking at other postings there, I am sure that the developers are
aware of the problem - we can only hope they are working on it.
One idea, completely untested - if you export your hydrogen song to midi
and then import the midi to muse (or rosegarden?), you could sync muse
to ardour, and have muse drive hydrogen. I'll try to test that over this
weekend.
Cheers,
Stuart
27 May
27 May
12:13 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Syncing Ardour + Hydrogen so Hydrogen
On Fri, 27 May 2005, Stuart Allie wrote:
This isn't really Hydrogen's fault. The problem is that JACK
transport does not yet provide enough information to
sample-accurately let hydrogen know exactly when the tempo change
occurred. If it did, H2 can use it to calculate different tempo
starting offset for doing the BBT -> frames conversion. As it
stands now, H2 (and sooperlooper) always calculate the audio
frame assuming the current tempo started at frame position 0.
Thus only a constant tempo will ever be correct when synced to
jack transport.
A workaround solution for apps such as H2 or SL would be to add
another item to the jack transport position struct that
represents the frame position that the current tempo started on.
The timebase master would update this value along with the other
BBT items.
The ideal solution would be to come up with some way to share a
complex tempomap among all jack clients, but is obviously much
harder.
jlc
On Wednesday
25 May 2005 21:02, Aaron Trumm wrote:
>> we just need a change from a tempo of 86bpm to 94bpm and back
again
>> ... how do we do this in ardour? will i
have to record the
hydrogen
>> tracks into ardour at the different
tempos, and then adjust the
>> ardour tempo track to match up? that would sort of suck ... other
>> approaches?
Unfortunately, Hydrogen is broken with regards to tempo changes at the
moment. (I'm using 0.9.1 and trying to work out where the problem lies,
but no luck so far.) There is a new beta release, 0.9.2.beta2 I think.
It might be worth giving that a try. I posted on the hydrogen forums
pointing out that the behaviour was broken, and there was no response;
but looking at other postings there, I am sure that the developers are
aware of the problem - we can only hope they are working on it.
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