23 Jun
2020
23 Jun
'20
8:42 a.m.
Hi. I don't know if this is really the best place for this type of
question, but I don't know where else to ask, so here is my question:
I recently acquired an Arturia MiniLab MkII MIDI controller, and would like
to use it with Linux applications (e.g. Ardour). The basic functions - i.e.
playing notes with the keyboard and performance pads - work out of the box,
but there are also some advanced functions that might be useful, which need
to be enabled or configured through software.
Arturia provides a "MIDI Control Center" for this controller, but of course
it only runs on Windows and MacOS. I would like to be able to replicate the
functionality of this software in Linux.
It seems to me that it should be possible to run the MIDI Control Center in
a Windows VM (I use VirtualBox for this), and use some sort of listener in
Linux to display the MIDI messages that the Control Center is sending to
the device. But I am not aware of any specific tools I could use for this
purpose. Any recommendations?
23 Jun
23 Jun
9:41 a.m.
Would Arturia's MIDI Control Center run under WINE?
It looks like it connects via USB. All you may have to do in a Windows VM under Virtualbox
is make the USB connection available to the VM, yes?
On June 22, 2020 6:42:29 PM HST, Caelia Chapin <crc(a)caelia.net> wrote:
Hi. I don't know if this is really the best place
for this type of
question, but I don't know where else to ask, so here is my question:
I recently acquired an Arturia MiniLab MkII MIDI controller, and would
like
to use it with Linux applications (e.g. Ardour). The basic functions -
i.e.
playing notes with the keyboard and performance pads - work out of the
box,
but there are also some advanced functions that might be useful, which
need
to be enabled or configured through software.
Arturia provides a "MIDI Control Center" for this controller, but of
course
it only runs on Windows and MacOS. I would like to be able to replicate
the
functionality of this software in Linux.
It seems to me that it should be possible to run the MIDI Control
Center in
a Windows VM (I use VirtualBox for this), and use some sort of listener
in
Linux to display the MIDI messages that the Control Center is sending
to
the device. But I am not aware of any specific tools I could use for
this
purpose. Any recommendations?
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9:49 a.m.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:41 PM David W. Jones <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Would Arturia's MIDI Control Center run under
WINE?
No idea. I don't use WINE, as I have had nothing but horrible experiences
with it in the past.
But in any case, I do not want to use either a VM or WINE on a regular
basis; I want to find out what MIDI messages the Control Center app sends,
so I can perform its functions under Linux.
Thanks anyway.
10:14 a.m.
On 23.06.2020 07:48, Caelia Chapin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:41 PM David W. Jones
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>> wrote:
Would Arturia's MIDI Control Center run under WINE?
No idea. I don't use WINE, as I have had nothing but horrible
experiences with it in the past.
How long ago was the past? Wine now is much, much more reliable than 5
years ago.
But in any case, I do not want to use either a VM or
WINE on a regular
basis; I want to find out what MIDI messages the Control Center app
sends, so I can perform its functions under Linux.
I have submitted some patches recently to wine which allow eavesdropping
on Windows MIDI connection, so one can dump any MIDI traffic (like SYSEX
messages) to/from Windows applications.
So a recent (staging) version of wine and aseqdump and you are ready to go.
Jacek
10:40 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:14 AM Jacek Konieczny <jajcus(a)jajcus.net> wrote:
I don't know. A pretty long time. But given this info, perhaps I'll take
another look.
No idea. I don't use WINE, as I have had
nothing but horrible
experiences with it in the past.
How long ago was the past? Wine now is much, much more reliable than 5
years ago. I have submitted some patches recently to wine which
allow eavesdropping
on Windows MIDI connection, so one can dump any MIDI traffic (like SYSEX
messages) to/from Windows applications.
So a recent (staging) version of wine and aseqdump and you are ready to go.
Aha! Maybe I'll try that, then. Thanks!
10:14 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 23:48:57 -0600
Caelia Chapin <crc(a)caelia.net> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:41 PM David W. Jones
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Have you tried contacting them? It's a long shot, but sometimes manufacturers
do respond positively. You may be lucky, they might just be using sysex
messages.
--
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http://www.musically.me.uk
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Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
Would Arturia's MIDI Control Center run under
WINE?
No idea. I don't use WINE, as I have had nothing but horrible experiences
with it in the past.
But in any case, I do not want to use either a VM or WINE on a regular
basis; I want to find out what MIDI messages the Control Center app sends,
so I can perform its functions under Linux.
Thanks anyway.
10:45 a.m.
Have you tried contacting them? It's a long shot, but sometimes
manufacturers
do respond positively. You may be lucky, they might just be using sysex
messages.
I haven't yet. But it does seem like they are pretty open to people using
their hardware with whatever software they choose, so maybe it's worth a
shot.
24 Jun
24 Jun
noon
Arturia are extremely protective. I have a microfreak (that I otherwise
love) and I asked for a sysex dump request. They refused to hand it over.
I'm interested in your findings with the MiniLab, since similar
efforts from my part could unlock the secret sysex dump request string for
my microfreak :-)
Atte
Den tir. 23. jun. 2020 kl. 08.46 skrev Caelia Chapin <crc(a)caelia.net>et>:
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Have you tried contacting them? It's a long
shot, but sometimes
manufacturers
do respond positively. You may be lucky, they might just be using sysex
messages.
I haven't yet. But it does seem like they are pretty open to people using
their hardware with whatever software they choose, so maybe it's worth a
shot.
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1:28 p.m.
Am Mi., 24. Juni 2020 um 10:01 Uhr schrieb Atte Jensen <
atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>gt;:
I'm interested in your findings with the MiniLab,
since similar
efforts from my part could unlock the secret sysex dump request string for
my microfreak :-)
Atte
You might want to take a look at this project:
https://github.com/francoisgeorgy/microfreak-reader
Cheers,
Daniel
1:58 p.m.
Isn't another way to use JACKd on windows, route MIDI through JACKd and
watch the logs ?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:59 PM Daniel Appelt <daniel.appelt(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Am Mi., 24. Juni 2020 um 10:01 Uhr schrieb Atte Jensen
<
atte.jensen(a)gmail.com>gt;:
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I'm interested in your findings with the
MiniLab, since similar
efforts from my part could unlock the secret sysex dump request string for
my microfreak :-)
Atte
You might want to take a look at this project:
https://github.com/francoisgeorgy/microfreak-reader
Cheers,
Daniel
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23 Jun
10:19 a.m.
Hi Caelia!
Am Di., 23. Juni 2020 um 07:50 Uhr schrieb Caelia Chapin <crc(a)caelia.net>et>:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:41 PM David W. Jones
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
I was using a regular Windows machine using USBPcap and Wireshark to do a
similar job. I put down some notes on how to capture the raw data in this
document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ypQkMvLO4bLtitymOyH06OrK4obAxps7OTFmCKd…
Wireshark has a filter for sysex messages which is very useful in analyzing
the captured data.
Apart from that the sysex specification (also reverse engineered ) for the
Arturia Beatstep might be of interest to you:
https://www.untergeek.de/de/2014/11/taming-arturias-beatstep-sysex-codes-fo…
All the best,
Daniel
Would Arturia's MIDI Control Center run under
WINE?
No idea. I don't use WINE, as I have had nothing but horrible experiences
with it in the past.
But in any case, I do not want to use either a VM or WINE on a regular
basis; I want to find out what MIDI messages the Control Center app sends,
so I can perform its functions under Linux.
10:43 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:19 AM Daniel Appelt <daniel.appelt(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Caelia!
I was using a regular Windows machine using USBPcap and Wireshark to do a
similar job. I put down some notes on how to capture the raw data in this
document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ypQkMvLO4bLtitymOyH06OrK4obAxps7OTFmCKd…
Ah, yes, Wireshark. I've used it a bit in the past for some very basic
network troubleshooting, but I've never learned to use it very well. Maybe
I will now.
Apart from that the sysex specification (also reverse engineered ) for the
Arturia Beatstep might be of interest to you:
https://www.untergeek.de/de/2014/11/taming-arturias-beatstep-sysex-codes-fo…
Great, I'll check that out!
11:48 a.m.
Am Di., 23. Juni 2020 um 08:43 Uhr schrieb Caelia Chapin <crc(a)caelia.net>et>:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:19 AM Daniel Appelt <daniel.appelt(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
In the comments on that last page someone mentions the MIDI console inside
Arturia's app. This seems to log all messages (including sysex) sent and
received from a connected device. This should make things much easier.
Cheers,
Daniel
Hi Caelia!
I was using a regular Windows machine using USBPcap and Wireshark to do a
similar job. I put down some notes on how to capture the raw data in this
document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ypQkMvLO4bLtitymOyH06OrK4obAxps7OTFmCKd…
Ah, yes, Wireshark. I've used it a bit in the past for some very basic
network troubleshooting, but I've never learned to use it very well. Maybe
I will now.
Apart from that the sysex specification (also reverse engineered ) for the
Arturia Beatstep might be of interest to you:
https://www.untergeek.de/de/2014/11/taming-arturias-beatstep-sysex-codes-fo…
Great, I'll check that out!
3:18 p.m.
hi Caelia, have you already found this thread in the arturia-forum?
https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=492c9jit0tma3j9g2eqicpvm73&am…
btw. I have a beatstep and a minilab mk I and would also be interested
in finding a way to configure everything in linux. for now I use a
windows vm to do that. I didn’t get the control center to recognize the
devices when I tried it one year or so ago. but wine is
updated/developed really fast, i. e. a new version each month. so
chances are usb drivers and such things will be working one day in wine
(?).
have a good day!
christoph
Am Montag, den 22.06.2020, 22:42 -0600 schrieb Caelia Chapin:
Hi. I don't know if this is really the best place
for this type of
question, but I don't know where else to ask, so here is my question:
I recently acquired an Arturia MiniLab MkII MIDI controller, and
would like to use it with Linux applications (e.g. Ardour). The basic
functions - i.e. playing notes with the keyboard and performance pads
- work out of the box, but there are also some advanced functions
that might be useful, which need to be enabled or configured through
software.
Arturia provides a "MIDI Control Center" for this controller, but of
course it only runs on Windows and MacOS. I would like to be able to
replicate the functionality of this software in Linux.
It seems to me that it should be possible to run the MIDI Control
Center in a Windows VM (I use VirtualBox for this), and use some sort
of listener in Linux to display the MIDI messages that the Control
Center is sending to the device. But I am not aware of any specific
tools I could use for this purpose. Any recommendations?
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