22 Sep
2010
22 Sep
'10
3:03 p.m.
Hi everyone,
I hope this is the best place to ask this question. I'm looking for a
most stable / best value audio interface / mixer with at least 16 input
channels.
Until now I'm using a Phonic HelixBoard 18 FireWire (mainly on AVLinux),
but it's getting less and less stable. I'm having difficulties keeping
jackd running, the firewire connection breaks too often.
I've verified that the same happens on Windows, so it's jack/Linux's
fault. On the other hand I have had multiple issues with firewire in the
past and so I'm looking for a different solution, if feasible.
And so here comes the question - can anyone please advise me on what
hardware do they use that is stable and useful under Linux?
One very interesting technology is the Audinate Dante or other variants
of networked audio, but I can't find any information about software that
will work on Linux with these solutions.
An alternative would be to use ADAT, but it seems a bit overkill and
rather pricey solution. Unless there's some good and combination that I
should look into?
Also, if there's a better place to ask, please do tell.
Best regards
--
Michał Sawicz <michal(a)sawicz.net>
22 Sep
22 Sep
3:32 p.m.
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 15:03:54 Michał Sawicz wrote:
I hope this is the best place to ask this question.
I'm looking for a
most stable / best value audio interface / mixer with at least 16 input
channels.
Until now I'm using a Phonic HelixBoard 18 FireWire (mainly on AVLinux),
but it's getting less and less stable. I'm having difficulties keeping
jackd running, the firewire connection breaks too often.
I've verified that the same happens on Windows, so it's jack/Linux's
fault.
There is a 'not' missing in this sentence, either it happens on windows too
and is not linux' fault, or it does not happen on win and is linux fault.
If the first is true, it would be interesting to know your controller and
setup. If the later, well, the phonic devices are only 'reported to work'...
And so here comes the question - can anyone please
advise me on what
hardware do they use that is stable and useful under Linux?
Fireware based solutions runs stable for several hours here :-)
An alternative would be to use ADAT, but it seems a
bit overkill and
rather pricey solution. Unless there's some good and combination that I
should look into?
ADAT is not the technology for computer->interface communication (so its not
alternative), its only a technology for different audio-devices to communicate.
You could use it to have the converters placed on stage and only run a bunch
of fiber to your mixing-pc at the foh.
You still need an audio-interface in your computer that has ADAT io. There is
a rme card that has three adat io, which would give you a total of 24 inputs
and 24 outputs.
There are also firewire devices that have adat io ports.
The actual adat->analog converters range from ~120€ to >1000€ and you get what
you pay for quality-wise. But I think you already know that from your phonic
experience...
Have fun,
Arnold
3:41 p.m.
Dnia 2010-09-22, śro o godzinie 15:32 +0200, Arnold Krille pisze:
There is a 'not' missing in this sentence,
either it happens on
windows too
and is not linux' fault, or it does not happen on win and is linux
fault.
If the first is true, it would be interesting to know your controller
and
setup. If the later, well, the phonic devices are only 'reported to
work'...
Yes, sorry... It's the latter - Linux is _not_ to blame here.
--
Michał Sawicz <michal(a)sawicz.net>
5:49 p.m.
On 09/22/2010 03:42 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote:
Dnia 2010-09-22, śro o godzinie 15:32 +0200, Arnold
Krille pisze:
Hello Michał,
I can recommend the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40:
http://www.focusrite.com/products/saffire/saffire_pro_40/
Haven't stressed the device though yet.
Best,
Jeremy
Fireware based solutions runs stable for several
hours here :-)
Do you have something particular in mind? Something that would fit my
needs and is known to work well?
6:02 p.m.
I have been using the saffire pro40 and it's awsome. I do have stressed and
it rocks!!! Still having issues with 96khz playback with the ffado driver.
Be aware with the firewire chipset (choose Texas instrument for better
performances )
Cheers
DR
2010/9/22 Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>
On 09/22/2010 03:42 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote:
Dnia 2010-09-22, śro o godzinie 15:32 +0200,
Arnold Krille pisze:
Hello Michał,
I can recommend the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40:
http://www.focusrite.com/products/saffire/saffire_pro_40/
Haven't stressed the device though yet.
Best,
Jeremy
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Fireware based solutions runs stable for several
hours here :-)
Do you have something particular in mind? Something that would fit my
needs and is known to work well?
10:45 p.m.
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:02:37 -0300
Daniel Roviriego <danifernando(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have been using the saffire pro40 and it's
awsome. I do have stressed and
it rocks!!! Still having issues with 96khz playback with the ffado driver.
Be aware with the firewire chipset (choose Texas instrument for better
performances )
Cheers
DR
2010/9/22 Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com>
> On 09/22/2010 03:42 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote:
> > Dnia 2010-09-22, śro o godzinie 15:32 +0200, Arnold Krille pisze:
> >> Fireware based solutions runs stable for several hours here :-)
> >
> > Do you have something particular in mind? Something that would fit my
> > needs and is known to work well?
> >
>
> Hello Michał,
>
> I can recommend the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40:
> http://www.focusrite.com/products/saffire/saffire_pro_40/
> Haven't stressed the device though yet.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeremy
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>
How can we order the one with the TI chipset? Is there a difference in serial number, or
something (just a wild guess)?
10:52 p.m.
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Goran Mekić wrote:
> Be aware with the firewire chipset (choose Texas
instrument for better
> performances )
[snip]
How can we order the one with the TI chipset? Is
there a difference in serial number, or something (just a
wild guess)?
He's not talking about something in the saffire, he's
talking about the firewire controller inside your computer.
-gabriel
10:56 p.m.
On 09/22/2010 10:51 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Goran Mekić wrote:
I use the Focusrite together with a Belkin PCIe FireWire card with a TI
chipset.
Also make sure you're using the latest svn checkout of the FFADO 2.0.0
branch, not the 2.0.1 branch because 2.0.1 won't work with DICE chipsets
(yet).
Best,
Jeremy
> Be aware with the firewire chipset (choose
Texas instrument for better
> performances )
[snip]
How can we order the one with the TI chipset? Is there a difference in
serial number, or something (just a wild guess)?
He's not talking about something in the saffire, he's talking about the
firewire controller inside your computer.
-gabriel
11:57 p.m.
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 22:56:10 Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 09/22/2010 10:51 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield
wrote:
No, do _not_ use the 2.0.0 branch. Its not existing.
Don't use the 2.0-branch for any dice device either. It will not work, 2.0
doesn't support that platform.
Other than that: Run your focusrite saffire pro24 or pro40 with ffado trunk and
all will be well.
Have fun,
Arnold
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Goran Mekić wrote:
He's not talking about something in the saffire, he's talking about the
firewire controller inside your computer.
I use the Focusrite together with a Belkin PCIe FireWire card with a TI
chipset.
Also make sure you're using the latest svn checkout of the FFADO 2.0.0
branch, not the 2.0.1 branch because 2.0.1 won't work with DICE chipsets
(yet). Be aware
with the firewire chipset (choose Texas instrument for better
performances )
How can we order the one with the TI chipset? Is there a difference
in
serial number, or something (just a wild guess)?
23 Sep
23 Sep
10:27 a.m.
On 09/22/2010 11:57 PM, Arnold Krille wrote:
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 22:56:10 Jeremy
Jongepier wrote:
Sorry, my bad. I meant trunk which is 2.x right?
Best,
Jeremy
On 09/22/2010 10:51 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield
wrote:
No, do _not_ use the 2.0.0 branch. Its not existing.
Don't use the 2.0-branch for any dice device either. It will not work, 2.0
doesn't support that platform.
Other than that: Run your focusrite saffire pro24 or pro40 with ffado trunk and
all will be well.
Have fun,
Arnold
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Goran Mekić wrote:
I use the Focusrite together with a Belkin PCIe FireWire card with a TI
chipset.
Also make sure you're using the latest svn checkout of the FFADO 2.0.0
branch, not the 2.0.1 branch because 2.0.1 won't work with DICE chipsets
(yet). > Be aware with the firewire chipset (choose
Texas instrument for better
> performances )
How can we order the one with the TI chipset? Is there a difference in
serial number, or something (just a wild guess)?
He's not talking about something in the saffire, he's talking about the
firewire controller inside your computer.
11:35 a.m.
On Thursday 23 September 2010 10:26:58 Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 09/22/2010 11:57 PM, Arnold Krille wrote:
Yep.
I am a little testy on this subject as I learned just a fine days ago that
certain distributions ship the trunk-version (which will eventually become
2.1) as 2.0.1-bla. Most/All users ignore the bla-part and tell us about things
working in 2.0.1 that are certainly not working in 2.0.1 because the code is
not there. Only because distributions ship trunk as 2.0.1...
Arnold
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 22:56:10 Jeremy
Jongepier wrote:
Sorry, my bad. I meant trunk which is 2.x right? On 09/22/2010 10:51 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield
wrote:
No, do _not_ use the 2.0.0 branch. Its not existing.
Don't use the 2.0-branch for any dice device either. It will not work,
2.0 doesn't support that platform. On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Goran Mekić wrote:
>> Be aware with the firewire chipset (choose Texas instrument for
>> better performances )
>
> How can we order the one with the TI chipset? Is there a difference in
> serial number, or something (just a wild guess)?
He's not talking about something in the saffire, he's talking about the
firewire controller inside your computer.
I use the Focusrite together with a Belkin PCIe FireWire card with a TI
chipset.
Also make sure you're using the latest svn checkout of the FFADO 2.0.0
branch, not the 2.0.1 branch because 2.0.1 won't work with DICE chipsets
(yet).
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