19 Nov
2015
19 Nov
'15
11:08 a.m.
I read on some sites that it should be possible to use VST plugins with Qtractor by way of
dssi.
On my system, Qtractor depends on liblo7 and dssi-vst:i386 depends in liblo7:i386. If I
install dssi-vst:i386, I cannot install Qtractor. If I then try to install Qtractor after
that, it will uninstall dssi-vst:i386.
So... what does one do to handle this?
FWIW, I've also tried LMMS's Vestige. There is some graphics bug with particular
plugin I need to use, rendering it unusable. So I am in an emergency situation looking for
alternatives.
hjh
19 Nov
19 Nov
11:19 a.m.
Hello James,
On 11/19/2015 11:07 AM, James Harkins wrote:
I read on some sites that it should be possible to use
VST plugins with Qtractor by way of dssi.
On my system, Qtractor depends on liblo7 and dssi-vst:i386 depends in liblo7:i386. If I
install dssi-vst:i386, I cannot install Qtractor. If I then try to install Qtractor after
that, it will uninstall dssi-vst:i386.
So... what does one do to handle this?
Try Carla with Windows VST support (carla-bridge-win32 if I'm correct).
It can run as a plugin inside Qtractor.
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13280
Jeremy
12:55 p.m.
Am 19.11.2015 um 11:19 schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
Try Carla with Windows VST support (carla-bridge-win32
if I'm correct).
It can run as a plugin inside Qtractor.
Running Win 32-bit VSTs in Carla doesn't work very well atm, you need a
very young version compiled from the repo, but still they produce lots
of xruns.
(Atm I can't event compile carla-brigde-win32, but that might be an AUR
packaging issue.)
Chris
1:03 p.m.
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:55:28 +0100, Christopher Arndt wrote:
Am 19.11.2015 um 11:19 schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
Did you try https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/carla-bridges-win/
instead of https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/carla-bridges-win32-git/ ?
--
"Pull a Homer -- to succeed despite idiocy." - The Simpsons
Try Carla with Windows VST support
(carla-bridge-win32 if I'm
correct). It can run as a plugin inside Qtractor.
Running Win 32-bit VSTs in Carla doesn't work very well atm, you need a
very young version compiled from the repo, but still they produce lots
of xruns.
(Atm I can't event compile carla-brigde-win32, but that might be an AUR
packaging issue.)
1:23 p.m.
Am 19.11.2015 um 13:03 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
I'm just did, but since I also use carla-git, I always try to compile
myself.
Anyway, none of the plugins I just tried worked. They all disabled
themselves in Carla after a few seconds with an error message. I'll take
dicussion that to the Carla issue tracker, though.
Chris
(Atm I
can't event compile carla-brigde-win32, but that might be an AUR
packaging issue.)
Did you try https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/carla-bridges-win/
instead of https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/carla-bridges-win32-git/ ?
24 Nov
24 Nov
3:43 p.m.
Am 19.11.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Christopher Arndt:
Running Win 32-bit VSTs in Carla doesn't work very
well atm, you need a
very young version compiled from the repo, but still they produce lots
of xruns.
(Atm I can't event compile carla-brigde-win32, but that might be an AUR
packaging issue.)
I am very pleased to report, that as of yesterday, the compilation
issues of carla-briges-win32 have been addressed in the Carla repo and
it builds and runs without problems on my Arch Linux laptop.
This means that it is now possible and practical again to run Win32 VST
plugins in Carla and so far I haven't experienced any drop-outs or xruns
with the synthesizer plugins I have tested with this new version.
A big thanks to falkTX and the AUR packager Joermungand!
Chris
19 Nov
19 Nov
2:42 p.m.
Hi James,
2015-11-19 11:07 GMT+01:00 James Harkins <jamshark70(a)qq.com>om>:
I read on some sites that it should be possible to use
VST plugins with
Qtractor by way of dssi.
On my system, Qtractor depends on liblo7 and dssi-vst:i386 depends in
liblo7:i386. If I install dssi-vst:i386, I cannot install Qtractor. If I
then try to install Qtractor after that, it will uninstall dssi-vst:i386.
So... what does one do to handle this?
FWIW, I've also tried LMMS's Vestige. There is some graphics bug with
particular plugin I need to use, rendering it unusable. So I am in an
emergency situation looking for alternatives.
I'm assuming you are running kxstudio? Wierd that the dependencies get
confused, I have no solution to that. I just wanted to mention that there
is likely another problem with dssi-vst at the moment. Due to some low
level bug dssi-vst currently does not work under a 64-bit system.
See the discussion here:
https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14817&sid=81abc…
As far as I know this is still the case so I think Carla or Airwave is your
best bet.
A question regarding Carla, I tried it with MusE the other week as an
alternative. Does Carla expose the parameters of a plugin to the host? I
couldn't get it to but it might be MusE is lacking some LV2 extension.
Regards,
Robert
4 p.m.
On 2015-11-19 13:42, Robert Jonsson wrote:
Hi James,
2015-11-19 11:07 GMT+01:00 James Harkins <jamshark70(a)qq.com>om>:
might be just (my) wild guess: but distros that don't support dual-arch
32_and_64bit simultaneously will have a hard time to get both wine
implementations of both win32 and win64 to co-exist that easily. iow.
none drinks from wine that's spilled over the table ;)
otoh. distros that do separate /usr/lib64 from /usr/lib (ie. where the
former shall not be a symlink to the later) might have an edge here:
fedora and opensuse might be examples where win32 VSTs might work over
dssi-vst and on x86_64 systems without system disruptive kludges.
that said, my old dssi-vst builds on opensuse13.2 [1] have been capable
to run win32 VSTs under qtractor.x86_64 at least.
[1] http://www.rncbc.org/archive/#dssi
just my 2c.
hth.
cheers
--
rncbc aka. Rui Nuno Capela
I read on some sites that it should be possible
to use VST plugins
with Qtractor by way of dssi.
On my system, Qtractor depends on liblo7 and dssi-vst:i386 depends
in liblo7:i386. If I install dssi-vst:i386, I cannot install
Qtractor. If I then try to install Qtractor after that, it will
uninstall dssi-vst:i386.
So... what does one do to handle this?
FWIW, I've also tried LMMS's Vestige. There is some graphics bug
with particular plugin I need to use, rendering it unusable. So I am
in an emergency situation looking for alternatives.
I'm assuming you are running kxstudio? Wierd that the dependencies get
confused, I have no solution to that. I just wanted to mention that
there is likely another problem with dssi-vst at the moment. Due to
some low level bug dssi-vst currently does not work under a 64-bit
system.
See the discussion here:
https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14817&sid=81abc…
[1]
As far as I know this is still the case so I think Carla or Airwave is
your best bet.
A question regarding Carla, I tried it with MusE the other week as an
alternative. Does Carla expose the parameters of a plugin to the host?
I couldn't get it to but it might be MusE is lacking some LV2
extension.
20 Nov
20 Nov
2:53 a.m.
At Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:42:45 +0100,
Robert Jonsson wrote:
I'm assuming you are running kxstudio? Wierd that
the dependencies get
confused, I have no solution to that. I just wanted to mention that
there is likely another problem with dssi-vst at the moment. Due to
some low level bug dssi-vst currently does not work under a 64-bit
system.
See the discussion here:
https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14817&sid=81abc…
As far as I know this is still the case so I think Carla or Airwave is
your best bet.
Thanks all for the advice.
I'm not running KXStudio -- vanilla Ubuntu here, with some low latency tweaks. My
lecture is on Tuesday -- highly unlikely that I would install a whole new distro and
reconfigure all the software I need at this point. Also, after losing literally 7-8 hours
yesterday to buggy, poorly-featured or un-compilable packages, I'm not exactly eager
to try to build Qtractor or Carla from sources.
Unless somebody can provide "for dummies" instructions with a, say, 90-95%
chance of success. I know that's unrealistic... just saying, yesterday, I went through
three or four cycles of build... build failed... Google... install more packages... build
failed again... Google... repeat... until the Google results turned up nothing useful and
I still didn't have a working build. To protect my own sanity, at this point I would
rather boot into Windows (and that is saying a LOT).
I have a related question, which really belongs in another thread. Shortly.
hjh
5:48 a.m.
James Harkins wrote:
At Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:42:45 +0100,
Robert Jonsson wrote:
Hi,
You don't need to "install" KXStudio or change your distribution at all,
KX Studio has a PPA repository that is compatible with pretty much any
current Ubuntu or Debian distro. Simply add the PPA to your vanilla Ubuntu
install, update your package manager and select whichever packages you
want, no need to compile anything at all.
http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
I'm assuming you are running kxstudio? Wierd
that the dependencies get
confused, I have no solution to that. I just wanted to mention that
there is likely another problem with dssi-vst at the moment. Due to
some low level bug dssi-vst currently does not work under a 64-bit
system.
See the discussion here:
https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14817&sid=81abc…
As far as I know this is still the case so I think Carla or Airwave is
your best bet.
Thanks all for the advice.
I'm not running KXStudio -- vanilla Ubuntu here, with some low latency
tweaks. My lecture is on Tuesday -- highly unlikely that I would install a
whole new distro and reconfigure all the software I need at this point.
Also, after losing literally 7-8 hours yesterday to buggy, poorly-featured
or un-compilable packages, I'm not exactly eager to try to build Qtractor
or Carla from sources.
Unless somebody can provide "for dummies" instructions with a, say, 90-95%
chance of success. I know that's unrealistic... just saying, yesterday, I
went through three or four cycles of build... build failed... Google...
install more packages... build failed again... Google... repeat... until
the Google results turned up nothing useful and I still didn't have a
working build. To protect my own sanity, at this point I would rather boot
into Windows (and that is saying a LOT).
I have a related question, which really belongs in another thread.
Shortly.
hjh
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9:39 a.m.
On 20.11.2015 02:52, James Harkins wrote:
At Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:42:45 +0100,
Robert Jonsson wrote:
KXStudio is not a full distro, but a project that includes repositories
for Debian based systems (including Ubuntu). [1]
It's been a long time since I changed the direction of the project, from
being a distro to just software & repositories.
The process to enable those is pretty simple - just install a single deb
file that takes care of everything.
(2 if you're using debian testing or 15.10)
Enable the repos, install the updates and any other package you might want.
No need to mess up the system compiling anything.
Any issues you can report to me and I'll fix them asap.
(Questions too I guess)
I mean, I'm not sure how this can be made any more easier..
[1] http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
I'm assuming you are running kxstudio? Wierd
that the dependencies get
confused, I have no solution to that. I just wanted to mention that
there is likely another problem with dssi-vst at the moment. Due to
some low level bug dssi-vst currently does not work under a 64-bit
system.
See the discussion here:
https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=14817&sid=81abc…
As far as I know this is still the case so I think Carla or Airwave is
your best bet.
Thanks all for the advice.
I'm not running KXStudio -- vanilla Ubuntu here, with some low latency tweaks. My
lecture is on Tuesday -- highly unlikely that I would install a whole new distro and
reconfigure all the software I need at this point. Also, after losing literally 7-8 hours
yesterday to buggy, poorly-featured or un-compilable packages, I'm not exactly eager
to try to build Qtractor or Carla from sources.
Unless somebody can provide "for dummies" instructions with a, say, 90-95%
chance of success. I know that's unrealistic... just saying, yesterday, I went through
three or four cycles of build... build failed... Google... install more packages... build
failed again... Google... repeat... until the Google results turned up nothing useful and
I still didn't have a working build. To protect my own sanity, at this point I would
rather boot into Windows (and that is saying a LOT). 
22 Nov
22 Nov
4:51 p.m.
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:07:30 +0800
James Harkins <jamshark70(a)qq.com> wrote:
I read on some sites that it should be possible to use
VST plugins
with Qtractor by way of dssi.
On my system, Qtractor depends on liblo7 and dssi-vst:i386 depends in
liblo7:i386. If I install dssi-vst:i386, I cannot install Qtractor.
If I then try to install Qtractor after that, it will uninstall
dssi-vst:i386.
I've seen something similar. In which installing a dssi-vst or a
package needed, resulted in removing jamin. A colleague fixed that one
and submitted a patch upstream. The problem was that a package was not
built with the multiarch approach.
Found the LAU post in which I reported that:
Subject: Re: [LAU] Korg microStation editor and Wine
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 18:49:21 -0500
"Update. The liblo7 package was not built for multi-arch and that
created the problem for which jamin (64 bits) had to be uninstalled
when installing dssi-vst:386. A colleague fixed it and submitted a
patch upstream Debian for the liblo7 package."
I guess upstream Debian never took the patch. Rebuilding the package
with multiarch certainly solved gracefully the problem.
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