1 Feb
2019
1 Feb
'19
7:05 p.m.
Hey hey,
I know this holds many opening for personal taste, but... I am looking for a
good chorus plugin (LADSPA or LV2) to put on voice for an electronic piece.
Think lush pads, reverb and an ambient feel. I am looking for some stereo
width and perceptible chorusing without being so aggressive as to disguise the
itch of the vocals.
I am usually working with the CAPS chorus and lately with the CS2 chorus. But
somehow I don't like the CAPS one on monophonic instruments/vocals and the
Csound chorus is missing the stereo element.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
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1 Feb
1 Feb
10:36 p.m.
Singing two times the same part. One mono track with panning somewhere
between left and centre and the other mono track with panning somewhere
between centre and right.
2 Feb
2 Feb
12:51 a.m.
Feb 1 2019, Ralf Mardorf has written:
Singing two times the same part. One mono track with
panning somewhere
between left and centre and the other mono track with panning somewhere
between centre and right.
...
Theoretically, I do agree! But for electronic "precision" music that is
difficult. To really nail the sound I'd have to be very precise in
timing. Length of notes. I don't know about any vocal alligning tool on
Linux and even less of a CLI one. :)
So practically speaking, a good effects chain is the much more viable
alternative.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
--
* Website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound
* SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
* Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMS4rfGrTwz8W7jhC1Jnv7g
* GitHub: https://github.com/jeanette-c
* Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeanette_c_s
Our imagination
Taking us to places
We have never been before... <3
(Britney Spears)
6:25 a.m.
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:51:09 +0100 (CET), Jeanette C. wrote:
Feb 1 2019, Ralf Mardorf has written:
If you shouldn't find an appropriate chorus effect, you could try a
single (no feedback) very short delay. Original sound e.g. between left
and centre and short delayed between centre and right. This is
missing the detune component, perhaps keeping the original as is and
the delayed with minimal pitch correction or pitch change could help to
get the detune effect.
Instead of playing 2 times the same power chord rock guitar to get a
rich sound, a guitar rotary effect could be used. It shouldn't sound as
a Leslie emulation, instead it should sound similar to an unobtrusive
chorus and phasing alike effect. I neither used this with vocals, nor
do I know if there is a rotary plugin available, that isn't just another
Leslie emulation.
For vocals I just used singing two times the same part, btw. this is my
favourite to get a chorus effect alike sound and I also used the single
short delay effect, but without pitch correction or pitch change effect.
Singing two times the same part. One mono track
with panning
somewhere between left and centre and the other mono track with
panning somewhere between centre and right.
...
Theoretically, I do agree! But for electronic "precision" music that is
difficult. To really nail the sound I'd have to be very precise in
timing. Length of notes. I don't know about any vocal alligning tool on
Linux and even less of a CLI one. :)
So practically speaking, a good effects chain is the much more viable
alternative. 
3:25 p.m.
A chorus-like effect that I like to use sometimes is basically what Ralf describes, but
I'll mix another version with granular pitch modulation in with the original signal.
Here's a maybe more exaggerated example than you're looking for applied to guitars
around the 17 minute mark:
https://nomadickidsrepublic.bandcamp.com/track/gather-burn-echo
I did this particular recording with Eric Lyon's granola~ in max/msp, which is also
available as a PD external but any granular pitch-shifter that allows you to automate the
pitch curves would work!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:51:09 +0100 (CET), Jeanette C.
wrote:
Feb 1 2019, Ralf Mardorf has written:
If you shouldn't find an appropriate chorus effect, you could try a
single (no feedback) very short delay. Original sound e.g. between left
and centre and short delayed between centre and right. This is
missing the detune component, perhaps keeping the original as is and
the delayed with minimal pitch correction or pitch change could help to
get the detune effect.
Instead of playing 2 times the same power chord rock guitar to get a
rich sound, a guitar rotary effect could be used. It shouldn't sound as
a Leslie emulation, instead it should sound similar to an unobtrusive
chorus and phasing alike effect. I neither used this with vocals, nor
do I know if there is a rotary plugin available, that isn't just another
Leslie emulation.
For vocals I just used singing two times the same part, btw. this is my
favourite to get a chorus effect alike sound and I also used the single
short delay effect, but without pitch correction or pitch change effect.
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Singing two times the same part. One mono track
with panning
somewhere between left and centre and the other mono track with
panning somewhere between centre and right.
...
Theoretically, I do agree! But for electronic "precision" music that is
difficult. To really nail the sound I'd have to be very precise in
timing. Length of notes. I don't know about any vocal alligning tool on
Linux and even less of a CLI one. :)
So practically speaking, a good effects chain is the much more viable
alternative.
3:43 p.m.
Sorry for the double-post, but just to follow up on your original stereo spread / depth
comment -- the reason I like this approach is that you can play with the detuning over
time (and really the pitch-shifter doesn't have to be a granular process of course, I
just like the sound of it) and layer multiple detuned copies with itself following
different pitch curves for a very rich sound, that can expand nicely into the stereo field
by just panning the detuned layers to taste.
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Erik Schoster wrote:
A chorus-like effect that I like to use sometimes is
basically what Ralf describes, but I'll mix another version with granular pitch
modulation in with the original signal. Here's a maybe more exaggerated example than
you're looking for applied to guitars around the 17 minute mark:
https://nomadickidsrepublic.bandcamp.com/track/gather-burn-echo
I did this particular recording with Eric Lyon's granola~ in max/msp, which is also
available as a PD external but any granular pitch-shifter that allows you to automate the
pitch curves would work!
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:51:09 +0100 (CET), Jeanette
C. wrote:
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Feb 1 2019, Ralf Mardorf has written:
If you shouldn't find an appropriate chorus effect, you could try a
single (no feedback) very short delay. Original sound e.g. between left
and centre and short delayed between centre and right. This is
missing the detune component, perhaps keeping the original as is and
the delayed with minimal pitch correction or pitch change could help to
get the detune effect.
Instead of playing 2 times the same power chord rock guitar to get a
rich sound, a guitar rotary effect could be used. It shouldn't sound as
a Leslie emulation, instead it should sound similar to an unobtrusive
chorus and phasing alike effect. I neither used this with vocals, nor
do I know if there is a rotary plugin available, that isn't just another
Leslie emulation.
For vocals I just used singing two times the same part, btw. this is my
favourite to get a chorus effect alike sound and I also used the single
short delay effect, but without pitch correction or pitch change effect.
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Singing two times the same part. One mono track
with panning
somewhere between left and centre and the other mono track with
panning somewhere between centre and right.
...
Theoretically, I do agree! But for electronic "precision" music that is
difficult. To really nail the sound I'd have to be very precise in
timing. Length of notes. I don't know about any vocal alligning tool on
Linux and even less of a CLI one. :)
So practically speaking, a good effects chain is the much more viable
alternative.
4:13 p.m.
On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 08:19:53 -0500, Erik Schoster wrote:
A chorus-like effect that I like to use sometimes is
basically what
Ralf describes, but I'll mix another version with granular pitch
modulation in with the original signal.
Apparently I'm more influenced by the analog audio studio age. Apropos
"granular", perhaps Jeanette could use the mono Csound chorus and
manually cut two mono tracks.
Either using a mono track + mono chorus as source and then copying it
to another track. Cutting the recording of both tracks and moving the
cut parts randomly a little bit forth and back or by making the source
a mono track without chorus, coping it to another track, also cutting
the recording of both tracks and moving the cut parts randomly a little
bit forth and back and after that adding the mono chorus too each
track, perhaps with a little bit different settings.
5 Feb
5 Feb
10:26 a.m.
On 01/02/19 18:05, Jeanette C. wrote:
Hey hey,
I know this holds many opening for personal taste, but... I am looking
for a good chorus plugin (LADSPA or LV2) to put on voice for an
electronic piece. Think lush pads, reverb and an ambient feel. I am
looking for some stereo width and perceptible chorusing without being so
aggressive as to disguise the itch of the vocals.
I am usually working with the CAPS chorus and lately with the CS2
chorus. But somehow I don't like the CAPS one on monophonic
instruments/vocals and the Csound chorus is missing the stereo element.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Even if not chorus, but still in the 'delays' domain, you could
experiment with flangers too ;)
Lorenzo
Best wishes,
Jeanette
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