4 May
2006
4 May
'06
2:48 p.m.
Hello list,
I'd like to hear some recommendations about buying a 100% linux supported
audio board. I own a M-Audio Firewire 410 and I am thinking to sell it cause I
cannot use it with linux.
I saw a few posts about M-Audio Delta 1010 and (in my opinion) is the best
choice but I would like some opinions with the following scenario:
1. Price is not an issue.
2. Don't want additional gear like ADATs, just a working audio interface.
3. I/O ports >= 2
4. Mobility would be nice (for laptop) but not necessary.
5. Minimum 16bit / 44Khz.
6. MIDI is necessary and also lowest latency possible. (which I don't know
what it is on linux)
Thanks !
4 May
4 May
3:14 p.m.
On 5/4/06, cezar(a)mixandgo.ro <cezar(a)mixandgo.ro> wrote:
3. I/O ports >= 2
4. Mobility would be nice (for laptop) but not necessary.
You might look at the Edirol UA-25. I don't personally own it, but
have heard a lot of good reports from people who are using it. 100%
supported in Linux AFAIK, but you may want to confirm that with
someone that actually owns one.
As for PCI cards, you are on the right track - M-Audio's line of stuff
is generally considered to be a "no hassle" solution. Delta 1010, 44,
66, etc. are great options. I personally have the Delta 44, and have
had absolutely no problems with it.
--
Josh Lawrence
http://www.hardbop200.com
3:45 p.m.
> 3. I/O ports >= 2
> 4. Mobility would be nice (for laptop) but not necessary.
Delta 44 is a great card - "No hassle" indeed!
I moved up to RME's Multiface II which is an awesome 8-input card. It has
the option of a PCMCIA interface, too, so mobility is possible. Beware of
$$$ on this one though.
Link
4:28 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: linux audio interface
could you be more specific ? what's the latency ?
"Link Swanson" <link(a)sumerianbabyl.com> writes:
> 3. I/O
ports >= 2
> 4. Mobility would be nice (for laptop) but not necessary.
Delta 44 is a great card - "No hassle" indeed!
I moved up to RME's Multiface II which is an awesome 8-input card. It has
the option of a PCMCIA interface, too, so mobility is possible. Beware of
$$$ on this one though.
Link 
7:49 p.m.
Yes, I had a Delta 1010, now I am using a Delta 66.
They are simply great.
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> 3. I/O ports >= 2
> 4. Mobility would be nice (for laptop) but not
necessary.
Delta 44 is a great card - "No hassle" indeed!
I moved up to RME's Multiface II which is an awesome
8-input card. It has
the option of a PCMCIA interface, too, so mobility
is possible. Beware of
$$$ on this one though.
Link
8:51 p.m.
cezar(a)mixandgo.ro wrote:
Hello list,
I'd like to hear some recommendations about buying a 100% linux supported
audio board. I own a M-Audio Firewire 410 and I am thinking to sell it cause I
cannot use it with linux.
I saw a few posts about M-Audio Delta 1010 and (in my opinion) is the best
choice but I would like some opinions with the following scenario:
1. Price is not an issue.
Good for you! :-)
2. Don't want additional gear like ADATs, just a
working audio interface.
3. I/O ports >= 2
4. Mobility would be nice (for laptop) but not necessary.
5. Minimum 16bit / 44Khz.
6. MIDI is necessary and also lowest latency possible. (which I don't know
what it is on linux)
Thanks !
I'm really happy with my Edirol UA-25.
http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/dld.cfm?ln=en&dsp=0&iCnc…
Latency could be set as low as 5.8ms (2.9ms in +2.9ms out) if the CPU
load of the session your're working on is not too heavy.
Recording quality is superb, at least to my ears.
c.
--
www.cesaremarilungo.com
5 May
5 May
6:34 a.m.
On Fri, 05 May 2006 00:51:49 +0000
Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
> 6. MIDI is necessary and also lowest latency
possible. (which I don't know
> what it is on linux)
I'm really happy with my Edirol UA-25.
http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/dld.cfm?ln=en&dsp=0&iCnc…
Latency could be set as low as 5.8ms (2.9ms in +2.9ms out) if the CPU
load of the session your're working on is not too heavy.
Just as a sidenote: On a -rt system, which is properly setup (irq and
app priorities) and a delta 44/66/1010 you can use periodsizes down to 8
frames. 8 frames at a samplerate of 48000 corresponds to a (roundtrip)
latency of
2 * (8/48000) = 0.0003333. sec = 0.3333... ms
While context switching overhead gets really huge it is in principle
possible to get ridicously low latency (you really don't want to use a
periodsize of 8 frames though. Even jack idle load is around 20-30% with
that setting -> ugh).
Operation with 32 or 64 frames per period is possible without problems
at all.
I don't think this is possible with USB hardware, and i have no idea
whether it's possible with firewire hardware.
The delta card i use is a PCI card and i suppose in principle the same
should be possible with a pcmcia card (which is afaik just a pci bus in
disguise).
Have fun,
Flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org
7:48 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: linux audio interface
I have 8ms on M-Audio FW 410 on windows, and It's ok ! for playin keys
So the Ediroll board sounds ok (I guess) being portable also
Florian Paul Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> writes:
On Fri, 05 May 2006 00:51:49 +0000
Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
> 6. MIDI is necessary and also lowest latency
possible. (which I don't know
> what it is on linux)
I'm really happy with my Edirol UA-25.
http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/dld.cfm?ln=en&dsp=0&iCnc…
Latency could be set as low as 5.8ms (2.9ms in +2.9ms out) if the CPU
load of the session your're working on is not too heavy.
Just as a sidenote: On a -rt system, which is properly setup (irq and
app priorities) and a delta 44/66/1010 you can use periodsizes down to 8
frames. 8 frames at a samplerate of 48000 corresponds to a (roundtrip)
latency of
2 * (8/48000) = 0.0003333. sec = 0.3333... ms
While context switching overhead gets really huge it is in principle
possible to get ridicously low latency (you really don't want to use a
periodsize of 8 frames though. Even jack idle load is around 20-30% with
that setting -> ugh).
Operation with 32 or 64 frames per period is possible without problems
at all.
I don't think this is possible with USB hardware, and i have no idea
whether it's possible with firewire hardware.
The delta card i use is a PCI card and i suppose in principle the same
should be possible with a pcmcia card (which is afaik just a pci bus in
disguise).
Have fun,
Flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org
1 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: linux audio interface
In fact I don't think you can achieve lower latency with an USB card.
Anyway if you play a softsynth (like the great ZynAddSubFx, or Om) with
a midi keyboard, the sum of the latency of the softsynth (that you can
adjust by setting the buffer size) plus the interface ->out latency
(~3ms with the UA-25), you'll have the same or even less delay (from
pressing the key to hearing the sound) that you'll get on an hardware
digital synth (6-8ms, AFAIK).
When you need to record an external source you can also use the direct
monitor (available on the UA-25).
cezar(a)mixandgo.ro wrote:
I have 8ms on M-Audio FW 410 on windows, and It's
ok ! for playin keys
So the Ediroll board sounds ok (I guess) being portable also
Florian Paul Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> writes:
c.
--
www.cesaremarilungo.com
On Fri, 05 May 2006 00:51:49 +0000
Cesare Marilungo <cesare(a)poeticstudios.com> wrote:
Just as a sidenote: On a -rt system, which is properly setup (irq and
app priorities) and a delta 44/66/1010 you can use periodsizes down to 8
frames. 8 frames at a samplerate of 48000 corresponds to a (roundtrip)
latency of
2 * (8/48000) = 0.0003333. sec = 0.3333... ms
While context switching overhead gets really huge it is in principle
possible to get ridicously low latency (you really don't want to use a
periodsize of 8 frames though. Even jack idle load is around 20-30% with
that setting -> ugh).
Operation with 32 or 64 frames per period is possible without problems
at all.
I don't think this is possible with USB hardware, and i have no idea
whether it's possible with firewire hardware.
The delta card i use is a PCI card and i suppose in principle the same
should be possible with a pcmcia card (which is afaik just a pci bus in
disguise).
Have fun,
Flo
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org
6. MIDI is
necessary and also lowest latency possible. (which I don't know
what it is on linux)
I'm really happy with my Edirol UA-25.
http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/dld.cfm?ln=en&dsp=0&iCnc…
Latency could be set as low as 5.8ms (2.9ms in +2.9ms out) if the CPU
load of the session your're working on is not too heavy.
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