31 Oct
2014
31 Oct
'14
11:33 a.m.
It seems I was unsubscribed by someone today. I received this message:
linux-audio-user-bounces(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
6:00 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Goodbye. We hope you enjoyed the linux-audio-user list.
I had not done anything to my membership, and I had no desire to be
unsubscribed. Does anyone have any idea why this might have happened?
Best,
Renick
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31 Oct
31 Oct
11:44 a.m.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:33:17 +0900
Renick Bell <renick(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It seems I was unsubscribed by someone today. I
received this message:
If your ISP does reject to many emails, you get a high bounce score.
You get informed about this, but perhaps the mails were rejected too,
so you never could be aware about the problem.
Usually only sending mails to you gets disabled and you need to login
to enable mail delivery again. I don't know what happens, if you have a
high bounce score and you don't visit your mailing list account,
perhaps you then get unsubscribed.
Did you receive as much mails, without much delay, as are in the
mailing list archive, when you still was subscribed?
That's just a guess.
linux-audio-user-bounces(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
6:00 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Goodbye. We hope you enjoyed the linux-audio-user list.
I had not done anything to my membership, and I had no desire to be
unsubscribed. Does anyone have any idea why this might have happened?
12:45 p.m.
If your ISP does reject to many emails, you get a high
bounce score.
Gmail?
Did you receive as much mails, without much delay, as
are in the
mailing list archive, when you still was subscribed?
I just realized that the last LAU mail I got was Oct. 7. Thanks,
Google. They had been putting a lot of my LAU mail in spam, which I
had then flagged as "not spam", but I guess it was to no avail.
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8:26 p.m.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 21:45:39 +0900
Renick Bell <renick(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Gmail?
No need to blame Gmail. We don't know if my guess is correct, it's just
a guess. Even if my guess should be correct, between different mailing
lists and different ISPs, issues from time to time happen. A while back
around half of the Debian user community was unsubscribed, regarding to
"internet issues". A few days back I could subscribe to the Claws
mailing list with a Yahoo account, but my mails were rejected by the
list, because they've got issues with mails from Yahoo. I switched to a
Rocketmail address and now I can post to the Claws list. Actually
Rocketmail and Yahoo are the same, they are just different keywords for
filters.
9:36 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com>
wrote:
I went to http://lists.linuxaudio.org/options/linux-audio-user and set my
Mail Delivery setting back to "enable."
Neil
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I had to
re-enable my account last week, too.
What does "re-enable" mean? Did you just need to check mail delivery or
was there the need for another procedure?
1 Nov
1 Nov
2:06 a.m.
In hope to shed some light onto this matter, we've spent some time
looking into possible culprits (heck, a couple years ago even my own
email was unsubscribed without any warning), and so far the best guess
is the ISPs... We will continue looking into possible solutions. Until
then, my best advice is be vigilant, monitor lack of LAU mail (we have a
steady stream of daily emails), and periodically check your subscription
status.
HTH
Best,
Ico
On 10/31/2014 5:35 PM, Neil wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf
<ralf.mardorf(a)rocketmail.com <mailto:ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>> wrote:
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I had to re-enable my account last week, too.
What does "re-enable" mean? Did you just need to check mail
delivery or
was there the need for another procedure?
I went to http://lists.linuxaudio.org/options/linux-audio-user and set
my Mail Delivery setting back to "enable."
Neil
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2 Nov
2 Nov
12:14 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:06:25PM -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
In hope to shed some light onto this matter, we've
spent some time looking
into possible culprits (heck, a couple years ago even my own email was
unsubscribed without any warning), and so far the best guess is the ISPs...
Please excuse my ignorance, but how could an ISP possibly unsubscribe
someone from a mailing list? That seems like a huge hole, or am I
missing something?
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oppressing." --- Malcolm X
12:23 p.m.
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 01:14:12 +1300
Chris Bannister <cbannister(a)slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:06:25PM -0400, Ivica Ico
Bukvic wrote:
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2014-October/099749.…
Since you're subscribed to the Debian list, debian doesn't disable mail
delivery, they unsubscribe directly:
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2014-October/099759.…
Mailman mailing lists show the bounce score on top of the page, when we
are logged in. If the information is missing, then everything regarding
rejected mails is good.
In hope to shed some light onto this matter,
we've spent some time
looking into possible culprits (heck, a couple years ago even my
own email was unsubscribed without any warning), and so far the
best guess is the ISPs...
Please excuse my ignorance, but how could an ISP possibly unsubscribe
someone from a mailing list? That seems like a huge hole, or am I
missing something?
12:56 p.m.
PS: Clearly, the interaction between ISP and a mailing list could be
disturbed, sometimes it's the bad of the mailing list and sometimes
it's the bad of the IPS. Black hole lists, rejected emails, odd
filters. If the disturbance reaches an annoying traffic producing
level, then Debian list unsubscribes, while mailman lists, such as LAU
usually disable mail delivery. IOW the ISP never unsubscribe users from
mailing lists, the lists automagically unsubscribe their members.
8 Nov
8 Nov
9:50 a.m.
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 01:56:03PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
PS: Clearly, the interaction between ISP and a mailing
list could be
disturbed, sometimes it's the bad of the mailing list and sometimes
it's the bad of the IPS. Black hole lists, rejected emails, odd
filters. If the disturbance reaches an annoying traffic producing
level, then Debian list unsubscribes, while mailman lists, such as LAU
usually disable mail delivery. IOW the ISP never unsubscribe users from
mailing lists, the lists automagically unsubscribe their members.
Oh, I see. Thanks for the explanation. I've never been unsubscribed
automagically. I'm guessing that as far as the subscriber is concerned
there is no difference between being unsubscribed and having mail
delivery disabled. In fact, it seems that having mail delivery disabled
would be worse because the subscriber would be wondering why they
weren't receiving any list mail, they'd check to see if they were
unsubscribed find they weren't and end up in a massively confused state.
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