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david

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Louigi Verona

8 Aug 8 Aug

9:44 a.m.

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immanuel litzroth

10:02 a.m.

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Louigi Verona

10:10 a.m.

Any law whatsoever is using a gun against a person. If you do not obey the law, they will have you fined. If you do not pay the fine, they will imprison you. If you run away, they will shoot you. So any law in principle is using force against someone who has not done so to you. If you believe that the only way to solve problems is to point guns at people - then I do not agree. But then again, if you believe in using guns, then of course my disagreement is yet another reason to force me to obey, right? On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, immanuel litzroth <ilitzroth(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Oh man, the government just can't keep it's hands off of anything, can

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I guess soon they will pass a law as to how often you can visit a toilet. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

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immanuel litzroth

10:34 a.m.

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Any law whatsoever is using a gun against a person. If you do not obey the law, they will have you fined. If you do not pay the fine, they will imprison you. If you run away, they will shoot you.

Tthis is like a reverse stepping stone theory. We need to make posters with a bloody bullet-ridden corpse on holding his guitar saying "Busking? just say no!". On the video you could maybe hear the guy whisper "We shall overcome..." before he dies of police brutality.

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So any law in principle is using force against someone who has not

done so to you. Most laws will not allow you to use force unless something was done to you. Of course, if they shoot your sister dead, it's actually other people who come and pick up the guy who did it, so that is *really* unfair.

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If you believe that the only way to solve problems is to point guns at people - then I do not agree. But then again, if you believe in using guns, then of course my disagreement is yet another reason to force me to obey, right?

You can disagree all you want. Just don't make a song out of it and perform it on the streets of Dublin... You'll need 20 people to disagree with and 20 different songs before you can do that, but given the relative abundance of sane people that should not be a problem. Immanuel P.S. There's a guy parked before my garage right now...and he doesn't know his time is up yet...

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, immanuel litzroth <ilitzroth(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I'll be happy to hear how you feel if one of these guys sets up his amp before your shop/office and starts blearing the same song all day, ad infinitum. Or would less restrictive gun laws allow you to deal with this problem on your own? I'm reminded of the Antwerp city law that requires you to have 2 poop bags per dog you walk. Reason: 1) If you don't require people to clean up the dog shit most are happy to leave the business in front of your door. 2) If you don't control and fine people won't give a fuck and happily let fido get on with his business anywhere 3) If you control and people and they don't have a bag they will just lie, say that fido is empty and the bag was already used So big brother is already watching dogs poop -- do we want to start a civil disobedience campaign? Immanuel -- ex- busker and owner of 2 Jack Russel Terriers On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Oh man, the government just can't keep it's hands off of anything, can > it. > I guess soon they will pass a law as to how often you can visit a > toilet. > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Keep this in mind, should you ever be in emergency financial need in >> Dublin: >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19111983 >> >> -- >> David >> gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com >> authenticity, honesty, community >> http://clanjones.org/david/ >> http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-audio-user mailing list >> Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org >> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > -- > Louigi Verona > http://www.louigiverona.ru/ > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user >

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Louigi Verona

10:37 a.m.

Immanuel, I don't think you got my point.

Ralf Mardorf

10 Aug 10 Aug

12:44 p.m.

On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 11:44 +0400, Louigi Verona wrote:

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Oh man, the government just can't keep it's hands off of anything, can it. I guess soon they will pass a law as to how often you can visit a toilet. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote: Keep this in mind, should you ever be in emergency financial need in Dublin: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19111983

In Germany the cities have different laws for music in the streets. On television I saw that in Munich they each day, early in the morning need to go to an audition at a department. If an officer likes the music and there are not to much other musicians that are already allowed to play in the street, it's possible to get a license. I don't remember if the license is gratis, IIRC the musicians need to pay for it. When making music they have to display the license clearly visible. I don't know the law for my hometown, but I've never seen a musician display a license clearly visible. I can understand that there are laws for music in the streets. I hope they would expand those laws regarding to people listening to 4 to the flour in cars. If I'm listening to music in my flat and such a car passes by, I can't hear the music I'm listening too, at this moment, I only can hear the car's music. This isn't an ironically overstatement, this really happens. They've got PA systems in their cars and they make contests who has got the loudest car HiFi. And really, I won't be forced to listen to El Cóndor Pasa all the day, when there are three different Bands from Peru, each playing this song most of the times, in one and the same street.

Ken Restivo

8:15 p.m.

For some reason, this comment reminded me of this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lm2JI7sGwYI/TJOm5AqXdwI/AAAAAAAALJU/9iE53YRKS7o/s… http://www.onepennysheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/s-MEDICARE-large.jpg Another solution perhaps might be to have no repertoire at all. That's what Audiobraille did; everything was improvised, so we couldn't play the same song twice even if we tried. -ken -- ------ On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 11:44:08AM +0400, Louigi Verona wrote:

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Jörn Nettingsmeier

8 Aug 8 Aug

11:06 p.m.

On 08/08/2012 09:34 AM, david wrote:

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Keep this in mind, should you ever be in emergency financial need in Dublin: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19111983

heck, in my guitar-playing heyday i knew 20 tunes from the dubliners alone. then again, my irishness credibility is not too high, despite a funny accent and a red beard - but i drink whiskey and beer... :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

Fons Adriaensen

9 Aug 9 Aug

12:17 a.m.

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 11:05:10PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

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Scotch whisky, we may hope... Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

Chris Bannister

6:59 p.m.

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 11:05:10PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

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On 08/08/2012 09:34 AM, david wrote:

Keep this in mind, should you ever be in emergency financial need in Dublin: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19111983

And it tastes ok? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X

david

10 Aug 10 Aug

8:28 a.m.

On 08/09/2012 06:53 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:

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On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 11:05:10PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

On 08/08/2012 09:34 AM, david wrote:

Keep this in mind, should you ever be in emergency financial need in Dublin: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19111983

And it tastes ok?

Well, if you drink enough whiskey first - everything tastes OK. ;-) -- David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/

Chris Bannister

12 Aug 12 Aug

5:24 p.m.

On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 08:28:11PM -1000, david wrote:

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On 08/09/2012 06:53 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 11:05:10PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

a funny accent and a red beard - but i drink whiskey and beer...

And it tastes ok?

Well, if you drink enough whiskey first - everything tastes OK. ;-)

I've tried whiskey (not to my taste) and I drink beer, but never tried whiskey and beer, might react? :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Ralf Mardorf

5:32 p.m.

On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 03:17 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 08:28:11PM -1000, david wrote:

On 08/09/2012 06:53 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 11:05:10PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

a funny accent and a red beard - but i drink whiskey and beer...

And it tastes ok?

Well, if you drink enough whiskey first - everything tastes OK. ;-)

I've tried whiskey (not to my taste) and I drink beer, but never tried whiskey and beer, might react? :)

If you are totally pissed by good whiskey, it's possible to drink pseudo-beer :p.

Chris Bannister

6:55 p.m.

New subject: [Extreme OT] silly semantics (was ... Re: Dublin buskers must have at least 20 songs)

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 05:31:14PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 03:17 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

I've tried whiskey (not to my taste) and I drink beer, but never tried whiskey and beer, might react? :)

If you are totally pissed by good whiskey, it's possible to drink pseudo-beer :p.

SCNR, I was just being silly. If I say I have some red and white ping pong balls, does that mean I have some white ones and some red ones or does it mean each one is red and white? Sorry this is WAY OT. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Ralf Mardorf

7:01 p.m.

New subject: [Extreme OT] silly semantics (was ... Re: Dublin buskers must have at least 20 songs)

On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 04:49 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

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On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 05:31:14PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 03:17 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

I've tried whiskey (not to my taste) and I drink beer, but never tried whiskey and beer, might react? :)

If you are totally pissed by good whiskey, it's possible to drink pseudo-beer :p.

It takes some seconds, since I understand :D and I just had some beer today ;). I suspect a mix of whiskey + beer = kryptonite. Only bad for Superman.

Ken Restivo

14 Aug 14 Aug

2:40 a.m.

New subject: [Extreme OT] silly semantics (was ... Re: Dublin buskers must have at least 20 songs)

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 07:01:47PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 04:49 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 05:31:14PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 03:17 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

I've tried whiskey (not to my taste) and I drink beer, but never tried whiskey and beer, might react? :)

If you are totally pissed by good whiskey, it's possible to drink pseudo-beer :p.

It takes some seconds, since I understand :D and I just had some beer today ;). I suspect a mix of whiskey + beer = kryptonite. Only bad for Superman.

A history professor at university did his doctoral thesis on the drinking habits of colonial America. Apparently a drink which was quite popular in those days was called "flip". It was, IIRC, a pint of stout, with a shot of rum dropped in, and stirred with a red-hot poker. -ken

Ralf Mardorf

10 Aug 10 Aug

2:45 p.m.

On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 23:05 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

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but i drink whiskey and beer... :-D

Hi wild rover, I suspect that as a German you're drinking beer and not what they call beer. OTOH I hope you're not drinking German Whiskey, aka Racke Rauchzart. :p Ralf

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