On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 14:42, Mark Knecht wrote: hi mark - funny to meet you here :) this is crystal synth from greenoak (http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/) - as far as i know, there is no installer, just a zipped-up .dll ... you can get that here: http://www.tfb.com/~glenn/Crystal.zip . i just noticed this from the download page: although i'm not sure that would make a difference here, as i am able to run the plugin, albeit as root ... need to make work for normal user. i'm also pretty sure this is the standard plugin to test vst on linux? shayne

Mark Knecht wrote: Mark, The later demo's and actual programs won;t work. Edirol added some multi channel output function that Wine and jack_fst don;t know what to do with. This was with like version 1.51 I think. The versions that I do know for sure that work are 1.01 and 1.02. R~

On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 16:06, Russell Hanaghan wrote: ... the reward of patience is patience itself i guess ... especially when it comes to waiting for salvation :) yes, that's why i chose that specific version - i'd tried keinjo's (?) recommended one for vst_server, but i ran into some problems with that version of wine, as i recall ... ditto with crystal - i'm just using it to test the actual functionality of jack_fst - i'd never really used in windows, but for the brief time that i played with it as the root-god, i really liked the sound ... ultimately, steinberg's groove agent ... not sure if that would happen, though... it's a great plugin though - so much more reliable and flexible than a real drummer :) hahahah (just joking, my stick-wielding friends) ... this is what i'm thinking . yes - i meant to say that i'm starting both applications as the same user, whether as root or user (just to rule out any issues that may have been associated with starting the two apps as different users) i just unzipped Crystal.dll from the zip file, copied it to /home/mrmachine/c/ProgramFiles/vst/Crystal.dll - did this as user kernel#2.6.8.1-1.520.1vR9.ll.rhfc2.ccrma probly something to do with this, i reckon ... but i would hardly know :( shayne

On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 18:45, Russell Hanaghan wrote: woohoo!!!! i am now a successful ccrma user of jack_fst!!! i managed to get it working with wine 20040505 and the ccrma 2.6.8 R9 kernel on my fedora core 2 box .... the trick was to check the "No Memory Lock" box in qjackctl - now i'm running crystal synth, pro-52, slayer2, plasticz plus a whole bunch of others as a normal user ... I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW HAPPY I AM RIGHT NOW!!! months of work, paid off .... i'd like to thank everyone who chipped in, and put up with me and my incessant, incoherent questions :) as soon as i finish trying out all my vst's, i'll head over to that dcdj (or whatever) page to let everyone know what vst's i got to work!!! shayne

On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 07:32, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: i have 512mb ... and the system never seems to approach using even half of that ... hmmm, i'll test out some vst's other than crystal synth with memory lock enabled and see how they go ... as for ram, i don't think my system has ever even used the swap partition ... unless - and i have no idea here - my system is blocking some libraries from accessing ram while realtime caps are enabled? shayne shayne

On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 08:38, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: well, i used the "free" command while i was running crystal synth (with "no memory lock" enabled - otherwise, no work) and it gave this output: total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 515292 458256 57036 0 11888 258304 -/+ buffers/cache: 188064 327228 Swap: 666688 1732 664956 so yes, i am using way more than half of my ram and a tiny bit of swap ... stupid gkrellm :( should this be preventing me from using memory lock in jack? shayne

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 14:11, Lee Revell wrote: apparently so ... here's the relevant excerpts from the thread:

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 14:54, Lee Revell wrote: i think i have to use jackstart - well, that's the server path indicated in qjackctl ... if i try with jackd or jackd-realtime (in qjackctl) then it doesn't work. i'm pretty sure i remember reading that the ccrma enabled fedora core 2 doesn't use jackd ... also - i am unable to start mixxx with jack enabled unless i've got the "no memory lock" option checked ... otherwise it overtakes the cpu and i have to reset the computer :( shayne

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 12:16, Russell Hanaghan wrote: it is indeed a good feeling ... i'm amazed that it's at all possible :o shayne

Russell Hanaghan wrote: Actually, it was just to get Russell to stop complaining... ;-) (Sorry, Russell, I couldn't help myself!)... I'm using 20031118, an antique version by now. Crystal is indeed a very fine synth, I use it frequently. HyperCanvas works here, but I have to be careful about a few things. I'm not sure if it's beause my machine is too slow (an 800 MHz Duron), but the synth will not respond to manual parameter changes while running (they'll update though when I stop playing), and it's relatively easy to crash (like if I pick up the window and move it around a lot). Sometimes it just disappears from the JACXK graph, the MIDI connection is still there, but the audio connection is completely gone. The variable performance of VST/VSTi plugins under Linux leads me to wonder if the Windows APIs aren't somehow very fault tolerant in ways the WINE guys haven't figured yet. I do not have a Windows installation on my machine, but I do adviseinstalling VST plugins by using their installation wizards, i.e., not merely dropping the DLL into a directory and calling it done. Some plugins won't complain about that at all, others are extremely picky about how they're installed. I'm still on 2.4 here, it appears that 2.6 is "issue-filled"... Best, dp

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:34:48 -0500, Dave Phillips <dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote: that one won't even compile with my current version of gcc... Interesting idea... this is Linux. ALL kernels are 'issue-filled' ! ;-) - Mark