27 Jan
2006
27 Jan
'06
12:28 p.m.
Hi all,
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports.
Thankyou, It would be useful for me to be able to formulate some kind of
definitive answer on this subject.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
27 Jan
27 Jan
12:32 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux
Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
I use external MIDI devices almost exclusively -- outboard synths, drum
machines or a second machine (running Windows) dedicated to plugins and
softsynths.
-- Brett
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1:54 p.m.
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 16:28 +0000, tim hall wrote:
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux
Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
I use a USB MIDI keyboard (M-Audio Keystation 49e). No problems at all
to get it to work, it's class compliant. I had to fiddle a bit
with /etc/modprobe.conf to get my sound and MIDI devices to load in the
same order for every boot though.
--
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3:37 p.m.
On Fri January 27 2006 11:37, Lars Luthman wrote:
I use a USB MIDI keyboard (M-Audio Keystation 49e).
No
problems at all to get it to work, it's class compliant. I had
to fiddle a bit with /etc/modprobe.conf to get my sound and
MIDI devices to load in the same order for every boot though.
I use a USB MIDI keyboard too, an Edirol PCR-30. Before that I
used a Midiman 1x1 USB MIDI interface. Both used to lock my
machine up under 2.4 kernels, I think due to some bad Mandrake
hotplug stuff. I haven't had a problem with either one in a
while.
Rob
2:05 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
Hi all,
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
I use just an USB Midi keyboard (Edirol PCRM-30) and a Roland A-33
(another keyboard) connected via Midi to the PCRM-30.
c.
--
www.cesaremarilungo.com
2:09 p.m.
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, tim hall wrote:
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux
Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
That's the main think I use it for. I've got nothing against
softsynths, but I love real synths and drum machines.
--
+ Brent A. Busby, UNIX Systems Admin + "It's like being +
+ James Franck / Enrico Fermi Institute + blindsided by a +
+ The University of Chicago + flying dwarf..." +
2:14 p.m.
tim hall wrote:
Hi all,
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports.
Thankyou, It would be useful for me to be able to formulate some kind of
definitive answer on this subject.
On my desktop machine:
SBLive Value with MIDI interface adapter
2 Yamaha TX802 FM synths
1 DMP11 mixer
On the laptop:
MidiSport2x2
Kawai K4r
But the truth is that I rarely use the synths anymore. If I can get FM7
running under WINE or fst then I'll probably sell the 802s.
No problems configuring either interface. Slight difficulties re: USB
MIDI were resolved thanks to Clemens' advice here on LAU.
Best,
dp
4:06 p.m.
On Friday 27 January 2006 17:28, tim hall wrote:
Hi all,
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports.
Thankyou, It would be useful for me to be able to formulate some kind of
definitive answer on this subject.
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
Hi Tim. I may as well reply, as everone is pushing useable keyboards. Mine is
Evolution MK-225C, and works just fine, apart from the same problems that
Lars had with getting snd-usb-audio to load as the second card.
Incidentally: FC1, FC2 needed the alias's and options setting to load the
cards in the correct order. FC3 seems to have got over the problem, and set
them up correctly. Debian Sarge, I had to put the alias's and options
in /etc/modutils then run update-modules. Gentoo's genkernel didn't have
snd-usb-audio enabled in the kernel, so had to compile another kernel, and
enable it, along with adding realtime at the same time. Slackware 10.0 with
Audioslack's mm kernel I think set it up correctly without my interference.
I've also got a Zoom Rhythmtrak RT323 Drum machine. I havn't been able to try
this, as I left the backplate with the midi connection for the Audigy2
soundblaster in England. Does anyone know if this works ok? Also is there
something I could use to convert the midi out from the drum machine to USB
in?
I think keyboards are in the lead on this poll at the moment. Nigel.
6:06 p.m.
Hello, Tim.
I'm using Edirol PCR-50 keyboard (USB) and ESI RoM/IO usb-midi
interface with 2 hw synths and behringer fcb-1010.
6:16 p.m.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:28:12PM +0000, tim hall wrote:
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux
Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports.
I use a Roland RD-170 for keyboard control, and a set of V-Drums for
drum input via MIDI. I output to various devices, usually a Yamaha DX7
synth, a Korg DDD-1 drum machine, a Kawai K1m synth module, and an Atari
ST (for chip sounds).
I had some weird problems getting the MIDI ports on my US-122 working,
but that was a long time ago and they probably weren't supported
properly by the driver I was using at the time.
Cheers.
--
Julian Squires
6:43 p.m.
Julian Squires wrote:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:28:12PM +0000, tim hall
wrote:
> I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
> external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
> useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
> external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
>
> Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
> welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports
MidiSport 2x2, Casio keyboard and Casio MIDI guitar under Fedora Core 3
fully Planet CCRMA. All work perfectly in, out, and through.
Fluidsynth/QSynth, fluid-R3 and 8mb-gm-gs soundfonts, Jack, Ardour,
Jamin, Rosegarden, and all the trimmings...
7:46 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Straw Poll: External MIDI
On 1/28/06, pirrone <pirrone(a)localnet.com> wrote:
Julian Squires wrote:
Evolution 425C usb works perfectly here, zero config required, and
quite a nice keyboard if you can cope with plasticy. Used as my midi
interface to my Roland MKS7, sysex controlled analog beast. ;-)
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:28:12PM +0000, tim
hall wrote:
> I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
> external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
> useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
> external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
>
> Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
> welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports
MidiSport 2x2, Casio keyboard and Casio MIDI guitar under Fedora Core 3
fully Planet CCRMA. All work perfectly in, out, and through.
Fluidsynth/QSynth, fluid-R3 and 8mb-gm-gs soundfonts, Jack, Ardour,
Jamin, Rosegarden, and all the trimmings...
7:50 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Straw Poll: External MIDI
I use an Alesis QS-8 keyboard and an ADAT. They work as well or
better than they did with the Mac.
FYI....
--
Kevin
9:15 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Straw Poll: External MIDI
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
I use an Alesis QS-8 keyboard and an ADAT. They work
as well or
better than they did with the Mac.
I _have_ to ask: are you successfully sync'ing the ADAT to Ardour and/or
Rosegarden? If so, I'd be _very_ interested in seeing the details of
how you've set it up.
Since I've jumped in, I might as well provide my own answer ...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, tim hall wrote:
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux
Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
I don't know what percentage I count as, but I'm currently using _mostly_
outboard MIDI equipment: sound modules are an ESQ1, DW8000, TX7, S2000,
and a Roland GR09 (that I actually haven't yet used MIDIed from the
computer), while controllers include the ESQ1 (which I use the most), a
Roland Octapad, and the aforementioned GR09. I also have some outboard
effects that I have MIDIed (in the past; I've not yet tried this on my
current music workstation) to the computer for backing up via SysEx.
On the software side, I'm still _very_ new, having only experimented a
little with FluidSynth/QSynth and LinuxSampler (for which I have very
high hopes). I played around with Bristol a few years back when Dave
Phillips highlighted it in a Linux Journal article, but the computer I
was using then was perhaps not entirely up to the task, so I never took
that very far. I'm likely to try to see if the version I have still
works on my new system.
I also did a fair bit of work around and previous to that time, with a
number of other software packages, but nothing that seems to have really
taken off nor to have particularly struck me as _must_have_ software,
though I'm very likely to revisit any packages that are still around
(and suitably maintained) now.
If I can successfully synchronize my ADATs and the sequencer in my ESQ1
to Ardour and Rosegarden, I'll have accomplished exactly what I'm hoping
for for this music system.
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Major in Electroacoustic Studies Concordia University
Faculty of Fine Arts / Music Department Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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28 Jan
28 Jan
4:11 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Straw Poll: External MIDI
For keyboard we have Roland A-90 with it's 4 midi outs plugged into an old MOTU 8x8
Midi TimePiece/switcher-router. We have a handfull of externel synths tied into the the
motu also. The motu MTP-AV is connected to the computer via the parallel port.
The external synths' audio is brought to the computer via a combination Mackie CR-1604
and Delta 1010.
We also have an old Peavey PC 1600x midi controller and a Roland SPD-20 drum pad that can
be patched into the system when needed.
All of the above works pretty well through Qjackctl(10 audio ins, 10 audio outs, 9 midi
sources and 9 midi outs when needed).
I just got a m-audio Trigger Finger(usb) that I'm starting to learn to use. I can see
that fitting into the system sometime.
29 Jan
29 Jan
6:45 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: Straw Poll: External MIDI
Hi all,
Better late than never :-).
I have a Eidorol UM-2 2x2 USB MIDI interface with a junk shop Casio keyboard
connected to it as a controller.
Chris.
28 Jan
28 Jan
8:02 a.m.
tim hall <tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk> writes:
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux
Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices.
I've got a Studiologic SL-990 Pro controller keyboard and a Roland
D-110 synth module, both connected to an M-Audio Audiophile 2496. I
don't use the D-110 very often; most of the time I'm playing piano or
Rhodes soundfonts through fluidsynth and a load of LADSPA effects in
JACK Rack. No problems getting it set up; I've written a wrapper
script that does all the JACK and ALSA plumbing automatically for me.
--
Adam Sampson <ats(a)offog.org> <http://offog.org/>
10:15 a.m.
On Friday 27 January 2006 16:28, tim hall was like:
Hi all,
I'd like to take a straw poll on how many Linux Audio users make use of
external MIDI devices. As a straight hands-up would be unlikely to yield
useful results, perhaps people could suggest what percentage of
external-MIDI-users exist within the LAU group. (As of Jan 06, say)
Additional comments re: problems encountered whilst configuring MIDI are
welcomed, but please start a new thread if you want to make bugreports.
Thankyou, It would be useful for me to be able to formulate some kind of
definitive answer on this subject.
Thanks for all your answers so far!!!
OK, so none of us can really guess at percentages, but it seems clear that a
significant number of reasonably expert audio users use an external MIDI
interface of some kind.
It also seems that general configuration problems fall into a couple of
specific areas and do not trouble most users, either because it's easy to
fix, they don't need the functionality or it Just Works.
I am also interested to hear from people who don't use MIDI at all or have a
specific reason not to configure it. (other than simply hating the medium. ;)
Good. The responses so far have been very useful. Thanks for keeping it so
focussed. :)
--
cheers,
tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
10:52 a.m.
>>>> "th" == tim hall
<tech(a)glastonburymusic.org.uk> writes:
th> I am also interested to hear from people who don't use MIDI at
th> all or have a specific reason not to configure it. (other than
th> simply hating the medium. ;)
I don't use external MIDI because I don't have the space to set up a
keyboard next to my computer. By all accounts from people who do,
transcribing music by entering the pitch on a MIDI keyboard with the
right hand and the timing with the left hand on a computer keyboard is
the most efficient way to do it, but I've never been able to set up
that way.
--
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(617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011
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2:52 p.m.
tim hall escribe:
It also seems that general configuration problems fall
into a couple of
specific areas and do not trouble most users, either because it's easy to
fix, they don't need the functionality or it Just Works.
MIDI had a lot to do with Just Works from the beginning, when computer
based sequencers even didn't exist.
Cordially, Ismael
--
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6:06 p.m.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:53:27 +0100
Ismael Valladolid Torres <ivalladt(a)punkass.com> wrote:
tim hall escribe:
I get the feeling that some people think MIDI is non-cool these days.
That's a mistake in my view.
--
F
It also seems that general configuration problems
fall into a couple of
specific areas and do not trouble most users, either because it's easy to
fix, they don't need the functionality or it Just Works.
MIDI had a lot to do with Just Works from the beginning, when computer
based sequencers even didn't exist.
Cordially, Ismael 
30 Jan
30 Jan
8:56 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 02:15:06PM +0000, tim hall wrote:
I am also interested to hear from people who don't use MIDI at all or have a
specific reason not to configure it. (other than simply hating the medium. ;)
Maybe this isn't a data point you're looking for, but I'm not
using it because I've got an open kernel bug because my box
reboots itself when I try to use it directly or indirectly
on my Delta 1010 card. I need it to build a drum track in
7/4 (Hydrogen can't do it), thus the first time I've needed
it. I'm praying it's not the card--money is t-i-g-h-t right
now.
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You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
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