9 May
2006
9 May
'06
9:12 a.m.
Hi,
Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy,
with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in and found
no soundfonts with it. I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
this I couldn't make my any noise.
Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
manual I should read?
Jonty
9 May
9 May
9:43 a.m.
Le Mardi 9 Mai 2006 13:12, Jonty Needham a écrit :
Hi,
hello,
Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative Labs
Soundblaster Audigy,
with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in and found
no soundfonts with it.
i found it in a french CL CD....it is in a sub-sub-subdirectorie.....
I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
this I couldn't make my any noise.
after that you should use aconnect....with aconnect -lio (list input ouput)
and aconnect client:port recept:port
maybe you need to tweak the alsamixer...
Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
manual I should read?
Jonty
10 May
10 May
6:07 a.m.
Many thanks Julien. I found I was windozed; the soundfonts on the CL cd
were labelled *.SF2, not *.sf2, which was why I couldn't find them. I
have since loaded PC51f onto my soundcard, but as my sound card only
appears to have 8 megs of space on it, I have a somewhat cut down
collection.
Does anyone have any reccomendations on which soundfonts to use, or
whether it's better to use a softsynth, or maybe I should just try these
things out...
Many Thanks
Jonty
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 12:41, julien Brulé wrote:
Le Mardi 9 Mai 2006 13:12, Jonty Needham a écrit :
Hi,
hello,
Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative
Labs Soundblaster Audigy,
with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in and found
no soundfonts with it.
i found it in a french CL CD....it is in a sub-sub-subdirectorie.....
I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
this I couldn't make my any noise.
after that you should use aconnect....with aconnect -lio (list input ouput)
and aconnect client:port recept:port
maybe you need to tweak the alsamixer...
>
> Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
> manual I should read?
>
> Jonty
6:19 a.m.
Le Mercredi 10 Mai 2006 10:07, Jonty Needham a écrit :
Many thanks Julien. I found I was windozed; the
soundfonts on the CL cd
were labelled *.SF2, not *.sf2, which was why I couldn't find them. I
have since loaded PC51f onto my soundcard, but as my sound card only
appears to have 8 megs of space on it, I have a somewhat cut down
collection.
no problem, it was a pleasure...
Does anyone have any reccomendations on which
soundfonts to use, or
whether it's better to use a softsynth, or maybe I should just try these
things out...
you can found have good sound fount with emu CD, or with akai
some of tihs can be load with asfxload.
otherwelse you can use qsynth, fluidsynth, or follow linux sampler to have
good soft synth sound
you can make your own sound with zynaddsubfx, pd, jmax
cheers
julien
Many Thanks
Jonty
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 12:41, julien Brulé wrote:
> Le Mardi 9 Mai 2006 13:12, Jonty Needham a écrit :
> > Hi,
>
> hello,
>
> > Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative Labs Soundblaster
> > Audigy, with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in
> > and found no soundfonts with it.
>
> i found it in a french CL CD....it is in a sub-sub-subdirectorie.....
>
> > I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
> > you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
> > this I couldn't make my any noise.
>
> after that you should use aconnect....with aconnect -lio (list input
> ouput) and aconnect client:port recept:port
>
> maybe you need to tweak the alsamixer...
>
> > Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
> > manual I should read?
> >
> > Jonty
9 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 09:07 +0100, Jonty Needham wrote:
Many thanks Julien. I found I was windozed; the
soundfonts on the CL cd
were labelled *.SF2, not *.sf2, which was why I couldn't find them. I
have since loaded PC51f onto my soundcard, but as my sound card only
appears to have 8 megs of space on it, I have a somewhat cut down
collection.
This does not make sense. The PC51 soundfont should work perfectly - it
does here. Soundfonts don't get loaded into the card, they are loaded
into system memory.
Does anyone have any reccomendations on which
soundfonts to use, or
whether it's better to use a softsynth, or maybe I should just try these
things out...
The PC51 soundfont is considered one of the best.
Many Thanks
Jonty
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 12:41, julien Brulé wrote:
Le Mardi 9 Mai 2006 13:12, Jonty Needham a écrit
:
Hi,
hello,
Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative
Labs Soundblaster Audigy,
with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in and found
no soundfonts with it.
i found it in a french CL CD....it is in a sub-sub-subdirectorie.....
I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
this I couldn't make my any noise.
after that you should use aconnect....with aconnect -lio (list input ouput)
and aconnect client:port recept:port
maybe you need to tweak the alsamixer...
>
> Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
> manual I should read?
>
> Jonty
9:22 a.m.
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Rosegarden then played the instruments, but many of the instruments did
not make any sound when selected. This may be (almost certainly is) a
problem with my understanding of Rosegarden, having used it for almost
15 minutes.
I don't really understand what is going on in full yet -- I'm really
very new hence the many yasq's.
Jonty
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:00, Lee Revell wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 09:07 +0100, Jonty Needham
wrote:
Many thanks Julien. I found I was windozed; the
soundfonts on the CL cd
were labelled *.SF2, not *.sf2, which was why I couldn't find them. I
have since loaded PC51f onto my soundcard, but as my sound card only
appears to have 8 megs of space on it, I have a somewhat cut down
collection.
This does not make sense. The PC51 soundfont should work perfectly - it
does here. Soundfonts don't get loaded into the card, they are loaded
into system memory.
Does anyone have any reccomendations on which
soundfonts to use, or
whether it's better to use a softsynth, or maybe I should just try these
things out...
The PC51 soundfont is considered one of the best.
Many Thanks
Jonty
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 12:41, julien Brulé wrote:
Le Mardi 9 Mai 2006 13:12, Jonty Needham a écrit
:
Hi,
hello,
Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative
Labs Soundblaster Audigy,
with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in and found
no soundfonts with it.
i found it in a french CL CD....it is in a sub-sub-subdirectorie.....
I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
this I couldn't make my any noise.
after that you should use aconnect....with aconnect -lio (list input ouput)
and aconnect client:port recept:port
maybe you need to tweak the alsamixer...
>
> Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
> manual I should read?
>
> Jonty
9:34 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:22 +0100, Jonty Needham wrote:
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Try rebooting and load the soundfont from an init script. If your
memory is very fragmented it can fail.
Lee
10:10 a.m.
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:34:12AM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:22 +0100, Jonty Needham
wrote:
I also have this problem with an older SB Live! card.
When I try to load "FluidR3-GM.sf2" it gives the not enoough memory
error. But, that soundfont is 142 megabytes ...
--
paul w
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Try rebooting and load the soundfont from an init script. If your
memory is very fragmented it can fail. 
10:18 a.m.
paul wisehart schreef:
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:34:12AM -0400, Lee Revell
wrote:
The Live! cards have a 32 MB limit no matter how much system memory you
have, so for this one you will need an Audigy card.
Regards,
Bert
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:22 +0100, Jonty Needham
wrote:
I also have this problem with an older SB Live! card.
When I try to load "FluidR3-GM.sf2" it gives the not enoough memory
error. But, that soundfont is 142 megabytes ...
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Try rebooting and load the soundfont from an init script. If your
memory is very fragmented it can fail.
10:50 a.m.
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:18:18PM +0200, Bert Visser wrote:
paul wisehart schreef:
Thanks, is there somewhere I can read up on the details of this issue?
I might buy an audigy card just to get the bigger soundfont capability,
but it would be *only* for that reason so I wanna make sure I get the
right audigy card.
thanks,
--
paul w
I also have this problem with an older SB Live! card.
When I try to load "FluidR3-GM.sf2" it gives the not enoough memory
error. But, that soundfont is 142 megabytes ...
The Live! cards have a 32 MB limit no matter how much system memory you
have, so for this one you will need an Audigy card.
12:22 p.m.
paul wisehart schreef:
I have to correct myself; it looks like the 32 MB limit as mentioned in
Creative's knowledgebase is only with the original Windows driver. In
my machine - a dual boot WinXP / FC4 - I have an Audigy and a Live! card
and on the WinXP side with the driver from the kxproject I can easily
load much, much more on the Live! card than just 32 MB. In Linux, when
loading the Fluid soundfont I get a message "no memory left" but the
font is loaded and usable. This happens on both the Audigy and on the
Live. So I guess this means that in your case there probably is another
problem which won't be solved by getting an Audigy card.
Could you try the PC51f.sf2 soundfont and see if this one loads without
messages? You can get it at http://www.personalcopy.com/home.htm (ca. 51 MB)
Sorry for the initial misinformation.
Regards,
Bert
The Live!
cards have a 32 MB limit no matter how much system memory you
have, so for this one you will need an Audigy card.
Thanks, is there somewhere I can read up on the details of this issue?
I might buy an audigy card just to get the bigger soundfont capability,
but it would be *only* for that reason so I wanna make sure I get the
right audigy card.
thanks,
--
paul w
12:53 p.m.
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:21:54PM +0200, Bert Visser wrote:
load much, much more on the Live! card than just 32 MB. In Linux, when
loading the Fluid soundfont I get a message "no memory left" but the
font is loaded and usable. This happens on both the Audigy and on the
Live. So I guess this means that in your case there probably is another
problem which won't be solved by getting an Audigy card.
Could you try the PC51f.sf2 soundfont and see if this one loads without
messages? You can get it at http://www.personalcopy.com/home.htm (ca. 51 MB)
Thanks for the update. I just tried FLuid on my friend's Audigy machine
(linux), and got the same results as you. The "no memory left" error
came up, but I *was* able to use the font just fine.
(I just used pmidi on some random piano type midi file.)
I'm downloading the PC51f.sf2 soundfont now, and will try it when I get
home.
thanks,
--
paul w
10:55 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:34, Lee Revell wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:22 +0100, Jonty Needham
wrote:
Thanks Lee. Could you tell me which fm I should rt for this? Does it
involve me simply adding the line asfxload PC51f.sf2 to
/etc/init.d/alsasound?
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Try rebooting and load the soundfont from an init script. If your
memory is very fragmented it can fail.
Lee
11 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 13:55 +0100, Jonty Needham wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:34, Lee Revell wrote:
Yes that's messy but should work.
Lee
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 12:22 +0100, Jonty Needham
wrote:
Thanks Lee. Could you tell me which fm I should rt for this? Does it
involve me simply adding the line asfxload PC51f.sf2 to
/etc/init.d/alsasound?
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Try rebooting and load the soundfont from an init script. If your
memory is very fragmented it can fail.
Lee
10:23 a.m.
Jonty Needham schreef:
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Rosegarden then played the instruments, but many of the instruments did
not make any sound when selected. This may be (almost certainly is) a
problem with my understanding of Rosegarden, having used it for almost
15 minutes.
I don't really understand what is going on in full yet -- I'm really
very new hence the many yasq's.
Jonty
How much system memory do you have?
Bert
10:56 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 13:23, Bert Visser wrote:
Jonty Needham schreef:
I'm not sure. Is that the same as ram? (512 Mbytes). Else I don't know
quite what you mean.
Jonty
Ok, thanks Lee. What I did was (quite naively)
$ asfxload PC51f.sf2
After doing this I got the message "no memory left on card" or
equivalent.
Rosegarden then played the instruments, but many of the instruments did
not make any sound when selected. This may be (almost certainly is) a
problem with my understanding of Rosegarden, having used it for almost
15 minutes.
I don't really understand what is going on in full yet -- I'm really
very new hence the many yasq's.
Jonty
How much system memory do you have?
Bert 
9 May
9 May
1:03 p.m.
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 13:12, Jonty Needham wrote:
Hi,
Yet Another Stupid Question: I have a Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy,
with no soundfonts loaded onto it. I have placed the CL CD in and found
no soundfonts with it. I do have the PC51f.sf2 soundfont, which I assume
you load onto the soundcard with asfxload, but the last time I tried
this I couldn't make my any noise.
Could anyone point out what I should do/have done wrong/which friendly
manual I should read?
Jonty
Hi Jonty. Which is the exact card name, and on which OS? The fact that you
couldn't find soundfonts on the CD may indicate that the card does not use
the emu10k1 driver. EMU (emu10k1 etc) are the only Creative cards with a
wavetable synth that are supported. My CDROM has the sounfonts in.
Audio/common/SFBANK/CT4MGM.SF2.
Check the output of lsmod, /sbin/lsmod, to see if snd-emu10k1 is on the list.
If you have snd-ca0106 on the list, then that is a No-Go for loading
soundfonts, and would explain why you can't find them on the CDROM.
If snd-emu10k1 is on the list, check also that snd-emu10k1-synth , is also on
the list.
asfxload is the Alsa version. and sfxload is the OSS version. On Slackware
10.0 which has both, asfload would not load the fonts, but sfxload did. Try
sfxload if the other one doesn't work.
To verify if soundfonts are loaded on the card, see the output of.
cat /proc/asound/card0/wavetableD1 . Change the card No, for that of your
card.
If the card is not a supported one for soundfont loading, you can still use
soundfonts, but will have to load them onto Qsynth, for instance.
About all I can think of for now. Nigel.
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