11 Oct
2009
11 Oct
'09
3:37 p.m.
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them, I'm
rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an inconvenient when using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
11 Oct
11 Oct
5 p.m.
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an inconvenient when using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi Carlos,
There's a GPL v3 project on Sourceforge for using a webcam as midi input,
pmidic <http://pmidic.sourceforge.net/>, unfortunately it's only available
in a windows version though the programmer planned to do a linux version
too.
(I'm friends with him on facebook and it doesn't really look like he's gonna
write one soon, but when I said I wanted to write the linux version , he
liked it, too bad I can't program well enough to finish the job.)
I played with pmidic for a while (on a windows xp setup IIRC) and could make
my synth produce a low bell when I walked to the left of the camera field
and a high bell when walking to the right :) That's been a while, I don't
remember the problems when I tested it using wine but it didn't work for me.
Looking forward to see anything that comes up from your quest ...
Peter
12 Oct
12 Oct
2:08 p.m.
Really nice, it's a pitty... windows only.
There are other projects related to webcams:
http://airguitar.tml.hut.fi/whatis.html
http://www.billaboop.com/
This last one is really nice.
Thanks Peter.
2009/10/11 Peter Geirnaert <peter.geirnaert(a)gmail.com>
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz <
csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an inconvenient when using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi Carlos,
There's a GPL v3 project on Sourceforge for using a webcam as midi input,
pmidic <http://pmidic.sourceforge.net/>, unfortunately it's only available
in a windows version though the programmer planned to do a linux version
too.
(I'm friends with him on facebook and it doesn't really look like he's
gonna write one soon, but when I said I wanted to write the linux version ,
he liked it, too bad I can't program well enough to finish the job.)
I played with pmidic for a while (on a windows xp setup IIRC) and could
make my synth produce a low bell when I walked to the left of the camera
field and a high bell when walking to the right :) That's been a while, I
don't remember the problems when I tested it using wine but it didn't work
for me.
Looking forward to see anything that comes up from your quest ...
Peter
11 Oct
11 Oct
7:27 p.m.
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:36:55 +0200
Carlos Sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs,
setups, controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and
based on your own experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for
your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e.
Behringer BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of
them, I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and)
strange MIDI controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that
allow controlling and have interaction with applications, whether
it's Ardour, Rosegarden, Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd,
Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio
interface with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm
still stuck with just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an
inconvenient when using live loopers (most of all when playing
guitar, and without a MIDI interface).
Thanks in advance.
Hello,
I'm very interested in this topic too - I think that the signal
processing power of modern pcs is totally useless (for live playing)
if you don't have an effective/intuitive way of controlling it. At the
moment I'm working on two routes:
1)Supercollider - it can get inputs from any HID (btw I've
heard also Pd does) and easily , and totally customably, convert it to
midi. I've used rig kontrol 2 from native instruments (pedal board
without builtin usb-midi), a bluetooth mouse and a joystick to generate
midi notes and controls... I've controlled with these rakarrack,
jack-rack and freewheeling. It's a good start, but right now I'm
looking at processing sound directly in Supercollider to have the
controls more integrated in the effects (and to have overall more
control on effects)
2) Arduino with the the ttymidi library, which is an arduino library +
alsa midi app which, very easily, gives you the possibility to create
midi from within the arduino code, then you simply route ttymidi's out
to any midi in you desire (in qjackctl for example). Have to say that
at the moment I'm having some trouble with this library, though I count
on getting it working (it was a few months ago).
For the moment I've experimented much more on 1 than on 2, but I'm
planning on building some kinds of controls directly on my guitar and
I might use Arduino for that (or I could hack a bluetooth
keyboard if I find one cheap)
In this setup I actually don't need a sound card with MIDI (though I
have one) - HIDs and Arduino are USB. I know it's possible to make
Arduino send Midi on standard Midi plugs/cables, but why bother when
there's ttymidi.
Renato
12 Oct
12 Oct
2:25 p.m.
Hi,
2009/10/11 Renato <rennabh(a)gmail.com>
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:36:55 +0200
Carlos Sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
Hi dear folks.
Hello,
I'm very interested in this topic too - I think that the signal
processing power of modern pcs is totally useless (for live playing)
if you don't have an effective/intuitive way of controlling it. At the
moment I'm working on two routes:
1)Supercollider - it can get inputs from any HID (btw I've
heard also Pd does) and easily , and totally customably, convert it to
midi. I've used rig kontrol 2 from native instruments (pedal board
without builtin usb-midi), a bluetooth mouse and a joystick to generate
midi notes and controls... I've controlled with these rakarrack,
jack-rack and freewheeling. It's a good start, but right now I'm
looking at processing sound directly in Supercollider to have the
controls more integrated in the effects (and to have overall more
control on effects)
Well, it seems I should give a try to Supercollider in the near future :). I
only ahve experimented with Pd and CLAM.
About HID2USB I know also this project:
http://1010.co.uk/avrhid.html
2) Arduino with the the ttymidi library, which is an
arduino library +
alsa midi app which, very easily, gives you the possibility to create
midi from within the arduino code, then you simply route ttymidi's out
to any midi in you desire (in qjackctl for example). Have to say that
at the moment I'm having some trouble with this library, though I count
on getting it working (it was a few months ago).
mmm... Really good news that ttymidi. Maybe with this I could have one
keyboard as a keyboard itself and another acting as a MIDI keyboard in such
a way that I can play on this last one right at the strong beat (really hard
when you are alt+tab-ing all the time) and trigger to record a loop with a
key on the other, i.e. on Freewheeling.
For the moment I've experimented much more on 1
than on 2, but I'm
planning on building some kinds of controls directly on my guitar and
I might use Arduino for that (or I could hack a bluetooth
keyboard if I find one cheap)
I'm really interested on that control-guitar thing, so please keep me
informed about. Maybe I could help in some way.
In this setup I actually don't need a sound card
with MIDI (though I
have one) - HIDs and Arduino are USB. I know it's possible to make
Arduino send Midi on standard Midi plugs/cables, but why bother when
there's ttymidi.
Yes :)
I really appreciate your info.
Greetings, Renato.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
12:05 a.m.
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an inconvenient when
using live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Check out http://www.sensorwiki.org
it has a good list of interfaces and sensors to use for them,
and a link to a taxonomy of digital instruments (by far incomplete, but
still).
Also http://www.nime.org may point you to some of the stuff that's out there.
sincerely,
Marije
3:36 a.m.
nescivi wrote:
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an inconvenient when
using live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Check out http://www.sensorwiki.org
it has a good list of interfaces and sensors to use for them,
and a link to a taxonomy of digital instruments (by far incomplete, but
still).
Also http://www.nime.org may point you to some of the stuff that's out there. 
1:24 p.m.
For theremin sensors have a look at:
http://asmir.theremin.ru/
The sensors Andrey Smirnov uses in his workshops can either
be connected via a microcontroller like Arduino, or their analog
frequency output can be fed into a soundcard and converted to
control data by pd.
have fun,
d
2:57 p.m.
Hi David,
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com>
nescivi wrote:
[...]
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> Hi dear folks.
>
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
Yes, that would be great. But AFAIK the circuit inside keyboards just cares
about keypresses; nothing about pressure or velocity, although maybe
something could be hacked given the present keyswitches, electrical contacts
(or I think capacitors on old ones), scan codes and other stuff.
Do you know any work about that?
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
3:12 p.m.
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Hi David,
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>
nescivi wrote:
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about musical
keyboards, not computer keyboards ... although I suppose you that if you
ganged some Trackpoints (IBM's little eraser pointer tool) together, you
could get take advantage of the Trackpoint's directional abilities.
It was just an idea that I think would be great. Don't know if anyone is
working on anything even remotely like it...
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> Hi dear folks.
>
[...]
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
Yes, that would be great. But AFAIK the circuit inside keyboards just
cares about keypresses; nothing about pressure or velocity, although
maybe something could be hacked given the present keyswitches,
electrical contacts (or I think capacitors on old ones), scan codes and
other stuff.
Do you know any work about that?
4:02 p.m.
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com>
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Ok :).
Then, I'm not sure, but I think what you refer is called "aftertouch":
http://www.google.com/search?q=aftertouch+keyboard
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi David,
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>
nescivi wrote:
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about musical keyboards,
not computer keyboards ... although I suppose you that if you ganged some
Trackpoints (IBM's little eraser pointer tool) together, you could get take
advantage of the Trackpoint's directional abilities.
It was just an idea that I think would be great. Don't know if anyone is
working on anything even remotely like it...
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> Hi dear folks.
>
[...]
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
Yes, that would be great. But AFAIK the circuit inside keyboards just
cares about keypresses; nothing about pressure or velocity, although maybe
something could be hacked given the present keyswitches, electrical contacts
(or I think capacitors on old ones), scan codes and other stuff.
Do you know any work about that?
13 Oct
13 Oct
6:02 a.m.
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Hi David,
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com> <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>>
nescivi wrote:
Hmmm, hadn't run into that. I read the Wikipedia article about it. The
three forms of aftertouch they mention don't seem to include my idea of
directional movement while holding the key down.
But an array of Trackpoints might be interesting as a control input, too.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> Hi dear folks.
>
[...]
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys
themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface
sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a
violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the
key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go
a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing
the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
Yes, that would be great. But AFAIK the circuit inside keyboards
just cares about keypresses; nothing about pressure or velocity,
although maybe something could be hacked given the present
keyswitches, electrical contacts (or I think capacitors on old
ones), scan codes and other stuff.
Do you know any work about that?
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about musical
keyboards, not computer keyboards ... although I suppose you that if
you ganged some Trackpoints (IBM's little eraser pointer tool)
together, you could get take advantage of the Trackpoint's
directional abilities.
It was just an idea that I think would be great. Don't know if
anyone is working on anything even remotely like it...
Ok :).
Then, I'm not sure, but I think what you refer is called "aftertouch":
http://www.google.com/search?q=aftertouch+keyboard
11:13 a.m.
2009/10/13 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com>
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Hmmm, hadn't run into that. I read the Wikipedia article about it. The
three forms of aftertouch they mention don't seem to include my idea of
directional movement while holding the key down.
But an array of Trackpoints might be interesting as a control input, too.
So you say something like to achieve little variations of notes
("vibrato"
alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I think there is
something like that in really expensive keyboards/controllers, but not sure.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Hi David,
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com> <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>>
nescivi wrote:
> On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos Sanchiavedraz
wrote:
> Hi
dear folks.
>
[...]
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys
themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface
sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a
violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the
key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go
a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing
the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
Yes, that would be great. But AFAIK the circuit inside keyboards
just cares about keypresses; nothing about pressure or velocity,
although maybe something could be hacked given the present
keyswitches, electrical contacts (or I think capacitors on old
ones), scan codes and other stuff.
Do you know any work about that?
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about musical
keyboards, not computer keyboards ... although I suppose you that if
you ganged some Trackpoints (IBM's little eraser pointer tool)
together, you could get take advantage of the Trackpoint's
directional abilities.
It was just an idea that I think would be great. Don't know if
anyone is working on anything even remotely like it...
Ok :).
Then, I'm not sure, but I think what you refer is called "aftertouch":
http://www.google.com/search?q=aftertouch+keyboard 
5:01 p.m.
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:13 +0200, Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> So you say something like to achieve
little variations of notes
> ("vibrato" alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I
> think there is something like that in really expensive
> keyboards/controllers, but not sure.
Some of the older Yamaha organs have this.
The D-85 has a synth keyboard with 'side to side' sensitivity that can
be routed to filter/LFOs etc. No midi as it's a monophonic analog synth.
The whole keyboard moves as you shift your fingers.
I'm mentioning it as these old organs can be sometimes bought for next
to nothing, and it's a helluva lot of sound for the money! Not that far
from a GX1. :)
http://www.electone.com/museum/index.html?i=290
15 Oct
15 Oct
8:16 a.m.
philicorda wrote:
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:13 +0200, Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
That's interesting. I wonder if such a keyboard could be midified,
perhaps some real time pitch recognition that could map pitch changes to
MIDI notes and some degree of pitch shift to control events? Probably
would have to be set for pitch shifting to make that work ...
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
So you say something like to achieve little
variations of notes
("vibrato" alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I
think there is something like that in really expensive
keyboards/controllers, but not sure.
Some of the older Yamaha organs have this.
The D-85 has a synth keyboard with 'side to side' sensitivity that can
be routed to filter/LFOs etc. No midi as it's a monophonic analog synth.
The whole keyboard moves as you shift your fingers.
I'm mentioning it as these old organs can be sometimes bought for next
to nothing, and it's a helluva lot of sound for the money! Not that far
from a GX1. :)
http://www.electone.com/museum/index.html?i=290 
16 Oct
16 Oct
1:40 a.m.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:01:30PM +0100, philicorda wrote:
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:13 +0200, Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> So you say something like to achieve
little variations of notes
> ("vibrato" alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I
> think there is something like that in really expensive
> keyboards/controllers, but not sure.
Some of the older Yamaha organs have this.
The D-85 has a synth keyboard with 'side to side' sensitivity that can
be routed to filter/LFOs etc. No midi as it's a monophonic analog synth.
The whole keyboard moves as you shift your fingers.
I'm mentioning it as these old organs can be sometimes bought for next
to nothing, and it's a helluva lot of sound for the money! Not that far
from a GX1. :)
http://www.electone.com/museum/index.html?i=290
I got to play a relatively new GX-1 when I was about 12 years
old. It was in the living room of a classmate's house. We were
running around his house, I wandered past the living room, saw that
thing, had no idea of what it was or how expensive it was, but I
had been playing organ since I was about 6 and had no fear of
things with many keys and lots of buttons... rather, I was
like... I GOTTA play that thing! It may not have been exactly
a GX-1, it may have been a home model variation of it. But
it was definitely THAT beast.
I didn't realize that my classmate's dad was (obviously) very
wealthy. I'm pretty sure he was a lawyer or something and IIRC
had something to do with the entertainment business. We weren't
really close friends; this was the first time I'd been to his
house. At the time, suburban families in New York had Baldwin
"fun machine" organs in their living rooms as a matter of course.
This wasn't no Baldwin. Again, this dude had some serious money.
Anyway, no kids were allowed near the thing, but somehow I was
able to talk his mom into letting me play it-- probably because
she felt like I knew what I was doing (I mean, I'd played
church organs by that time, theater organs, this wasn't no
big deal to me). She stood there terrified as I turned it on
and started playing it. My friend was forbidden to touch
it, but as I jammed away his mom let him jam along with me.
After a while she realized we weren't going to blow the thing
up, and went off to fix dinner. We did this until my mom
came and picked me up around dinnertime.
It had a cassette tape recorder bolted underneath the lowest
manual, and I recorded some of what we did. I doubt the tape
exists anymore. I do remember that it sounded SWEET. I spent
a lot of time playing the little chicklet-keys mono synth
manual on it.
-ken
11:33 a.m.
This one, ken?
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/gx1.php
In wikipedia says it was $60000, no more no less.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_GX1
You always have nice stories, thanks for sharing Ken.
2009/10/16, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org>rg>:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:01:30PM +0100, philicorda
wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:13 +0200, Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> So you say something like to achieve
little variations of notes
> ("vibrato" alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I
> think there is something like that in really expensive
> keyboards/controllers, but not sure.
Some of the older Yamaha organs have this.
The D-85 has a synth keyboard with 'side to side' sensitivity that can
be routed to filter/LFOs etc. No midi as it's a monophonic analog synth.
The whole keyboard moves as you shift your fingers.
I'm mentioning it as these old organs can be sometimes bought for next
to nothing, and it's a helluva lot of sound for the money! Not that far
from a GX1. :)
http://www.electone.com/museum/index.html?i=290
I got to play a relatively new GX-1 when I was about 12 years
old. It was in the living room of a classmate's house. We were
running around his house, I wandered past the living room, saw that
thing, had no idea of what it was or how expensive it was, but I
had been playing organ since I was about 6 and had no fear of
things with many keys and lots of buttons... rather, I was
like... I GOTTA play that thing! It may not have been exactly
a GX-1, it may have been a home model variation of it. But
it was definitely THAT beast.
I didn't realize that my classmate's dad was (obviously) very
wealthy. I'm pretty sure he was a lawyer or something and IIRC
had something to do with the entertainment business. We weren't
really close friends; this was the first time I'd been to his
house. At the time, suburban families in New York had Baldwin
"fun machine" organs in their living rooms as a matter of course.
This wasn't no Baldwin. Again, this dude had some serious money.
Anyway, no kids were allowed near the thing, but somehow I was
able to talk his mom into letting me play it-- probably because
she felt like I knew what I was doing (I mean, I'd played
church organs by that time, theater organs, this wasn't no
big deal to me). She stood there terrified as I turned it on
and started playing it. My friend was forbidden to touch
it, but as I jammed away his mom let him jam along with me.
After a while she realized we weren't going to blow the thing
up, and went off to fix dinner. We did this until my mom
came and picked me up around dinnertime.
It had a cassette tape recorder bolted underneath the lowest
manual, and I recorded some of what we did. I doubt the tape
exists anymore. I do remember that it sounded SWEET. I spent
a lot of time playing the little chicklet-keys mono synth
manual on it.
-ken
3:23 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:33:42PM +0200, Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
This one, ken?
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/gx1.php
In wikipedia says it was $60000, no more no less.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_GX1
That's the thing, as I recall.
Yeah, there was some serious money going on.
You always have nice stories, thanks for sharing Ken.
I've been reluctant to share this one, because it's so sketchy and was so long
ago. I was hoping to track the guy down via Facebook or something and get confirmation
that it was indeed a GX-1, but haven't had any luck so far. That kid left the public
school system the year after for some private school, and never heard from him again.
-ken
------------
2009/10/16, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org>rg>:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:01:30PM +0100,
philicorda wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 15:13 +0200, Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
> So you say something like to achieve
little variations of notes
> ("vibrato" alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I
> think there is something like that in really expensive
> keyboards/controllers, but not sure.
Some of the older Yamaha organs have this.
The D-85 has a synth keyboard with 'side to side' sensitivity that can
be routed to filter/LFOs etc. No midi as it's a monophonic analog synth.
The whole keyboard moves as you shift your fingers.
I'm mentioning it as these old organs can be sometimes bought for next
to nothing, and it's a helluva lot of sound for the money! Not that far
from a GX1. :)
http://www.electone.com/museum/index.html?i=290
I got to play a relatively new GX-1 when I was about 12 years
old. It was in the living room of a classmate's house. We were
running around his house, I wandered past the living room, saw that
thing, had no idea of what it was or how expensive it was, but I
had been playing organ since I was about 6 and had no fear of
things with many keys and lots of buttons... rather, I was
like... I GOTTA play that thing! It may not have been exactly
a GX-1, it may have been a home model variation of it. But
it was definitely THAT beast.
I didn't realize that my classmate's dad was (obviously) very
wealthy. I'm pretty sure he was a lawyer or something and IIRC
had something to do with the entertainment business. We weren't
really close friends; this was the first time I'd been to his
house. At the time, suburban families in New York had Baldwin
"fun machine" organs in their living rooms as a matter of course.
This wasn't no Baldwin. Again, this dude had some serious money.
Anyway, no kids were allowed near the thing, but somehow I was
able to talk his mom into letting me play it-- probably because
she felt like I knew what I was doing (I mean, I'd played
church organs by that time, theater organs, this wasn't no
big deal to me). She stood there terrified as I turned it on
and started playing it. My friend was forbidden to touch
it, but as I jammed away his mom let him jam along with me.
After a while she realized we weren't going to blow the thing
up, and went off to fix dinner. We did this until my mom
came and picked me up around dinnertime.
It had a cassette tape recorder bolted underneath the lowest
manual, and I recorded some of what we did. I doubt the tape
exists anymore. I do remember that it sounded SWEET. I spent
a lot of time playing the little chicklet-keys mono synth
manual on it.
-ken
15 Oct
15 Oct
8:11 a.m.
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
2009/10/13 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com <mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
play a
Could well be. My experience combining computers with MIDI keyboards is
limited and doesn't include any high-end controllers ...
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>>
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
Hi David,
2009/10/12 david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com
<mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com>>>>
nescivi wrote:
> On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz
wrote:
> Hi
dear folks.
>
[...]
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys
themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface
sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the
key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That
would go
a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into
playing
the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds.
Yes, that would be great. But AFAIK the circuit inside
keyboards
just cares about keypresses; nothing
about pressure or
velocity,
although maybe something could be hacked
given the present
keyswitches, electrical contacts (or I think capacitors
on old
ones), scan codes and other stuff.
Do you know any work about that?
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I was talking about musical
keyboards, not computer keyboards ... although I suppose you
that if
you ganged some Trackpoints (IBM's little
eraser pointer tool)
together, you could get take advantage of the Trackpoint's
directional abilities.
It was just an idea that I think would be great. Don't know if
anyone is working on anything even remotely like it...
Ok :).
Then, I'm not sure, but I think what you refer is called
"aftertouch":
Hmmm, hadn't run into that. I read the Wikipedia article about it. The
three forms of aftertouch they mention don't seem to include my idea of
directional movement while holding the key down.
But an array of Trackpoints might be interesting as a control input,
too.
So you say something like to achieve little variations of notes
("vibrato" alike) depending on the key/finger movement, isn't it? I
think there is something like that in really expensive
keyboards/controllers, but not sure. 
13 Oct
13 Oct
2:17 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:02 AM, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Hmmm, hadn't run into that. I read the Wikipedia
article about it. The
three forms of aftertouch they mention don't seem to include my idea of
directional movement while holding the key down.
IIRC, Herbie Hancock played such a beast in the late 70's or early 80s.
15 Oct
15 Oct
8:13 a.m.
Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:02 AM, david
<gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me.
I watched the movie "The Last Waltz" about The Band's farewell concert,
and some of the sounds their organist was getting from his Lowrey organ
suggested it had some kind of capability along those lines. I have no
idea what model he played.
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
Hmmm, hadn't run into that. I read the
Wikipedia article about it. The
three forms of aftertouch they mention don't seem to include my idea of
directional movement while holding the key down.
IIRC, Herbie Hancock played such a beast in the late 70's or early 80s.
13 Oct
13 Oct
2:54 p.m.
On Monday 12 October 2009 01:36:14 david wrote:
nescivi wrote:
Look up what David Wessel at CNMAT is working with these days. Pretty much
what you're interested in.
sincerely,
Marije
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
I had a thought re keyboards (particularly the keys themselves). Why
can't the surface of a key be a touchpad-like surface sensitive to
pressure and even movement? So, for example, you could play a violin
note, hold it, and use finger pressure and movement on the key surface
itself to do vibrato the way a violinist would? That would go a long
ways toward bringing human expressiveness back into playing the sounds
of such expressive instruments as strings and woodwinds. Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your
own experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on
the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling
and have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio
interface with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm
still stuck with just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an
inconvenient when using live loopers (most of all when playing guitar,
and without a MIDI interface).
Check out http://www.sensorwiki.org
it has a good list of interfaces and sensors to use for them,
and a link to a taxonomy of digital instruments (by far incomplete, but
still).
Also http://www.nime.org may point you to some of the stuff that's out
there.
5:01 p.m.
2009/10/13 nescivi <nescivi(a)gmail.com>
Look up what David Wessel at CNMAT is working with
these days. Pretty much
what you're interested in.
sincerely,
Marije
url:
http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/people/david_wessel
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
15 Oct
15 Oct
8:21 a.m.
Carlos Sanchiavedraz wrote:
2009/10/13 nescivi <nescivi(a)gmail.com>
Look up what David Wessel at CNMAT is working with these days.
Pretty much
what you're interested in.
sincerely,
Marije
url:
http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/people/david_wessel
Yes, his SLABS project sounds like something that could be adapted -
just put a pressure sensitive etc pad on top of each key ...
--
David
gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
12 Oct
12 Oct
2:33 p.m.
Interesting projects. I should know them by now ;) (I had NIME on my
bookmarks but I didn't even remember).
Thanks so much.
2009/10/12 nescivi <nescivi(a)gmail.com>
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:36:55 Carlos
Sanchiavedraz wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your
own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours
for your mails on the
list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling
and
have interaction with applications, whether
it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck
with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs
but an inconvenient when
using live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Check out http://www.sensorwiki.org
it has a good list of interfaces and sensors to use for them,
and a link to a taxonomy of digital instruments (by far incomplete, but
still).
Also http://www.nime.org may point you to some of the stuff that's out
there.
sincerely,
Marije
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2:47 a.m.
Hey,
Here's my take at adapting a USB joystick (purchased second hand, $20
for a pair) as a "controller" for my guitar. I actually performed
with that thing. The thumb sticks were replaced by photocells so that
by waving my hand in front (and changing the intensity of light
reaching the components) I could control some continuous parameters.
The buttons of the pad were mapped to various things, depending on the
"preset".
http://tinyurl.com/yzgrzvp
It was all hooked up to pd in which most of the audio processing took
place except for some presents where the buttons controlled a
sooperlooper instance via OSC.
I have now decided to give up the USB joystick on that instrument and
try to figure something out with the wiimote which is a lot of fun to
play with. The other usual contender is an iPod Touch/iPhone even if
mostly used in connection with OSC.
Have fun digging, there are a lot of fun projects around.
./MiS
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours for your mails on the list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them, I'm
rather interested in something like (inexpensive and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs but an inconvenient when using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar, and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
_______________________________________________
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Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
2:43 p.m.
Hi Michal,
2009/10/12 Michal Seta <mis(a)artengine.ca>
Hey,
Here's my take at adapting a USB joystick (purchased second hand, $20
for a pair) as a "controller" for my guitar. I actually performed
with that thing. The thumb sticks were replaced by photocells so that
by waving my hand in front (and changing the intensity of light
reaching the components) I could control some continuous parameters.
The buttons of the pad were mapped to various things, depending on the
"preset".
http://tinyurl.com/yzgrzvp
It was all hooked up to pd in which most of the audio processing took
place except for some presents where the buttons controlled a
sooperlooper instance via OSC.
What a guitar-attached-controller! ;) It might be good for controlling fx,
but maybe a little tricky to start recording a loop at the time you play
with your right hand.
Anyway, really nice. Do you have the project available.
I have now decided to give up the USB joystick on that instrument and
try to figure something out with the wiimote which is
a lot of fun to
play with. The other usual contender is an iPod Touch/iPhone even if
mostly used in connection with OSC.
Have fun digging, there are a lot of fun projects around.
Talking about wiimote and MIDI, keep track of a project I'm involved that I
mentioned some time ago, wiimidi:
http://github.com/fontanon/wiimidi
It's in its first steps, but I hope at the end it would be really easy and
useful for every kind of user.
Thanks.
./MiS
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your
own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours
for your mails on the
list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm
rather interested in something like (inexpensive
and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling and
have interaction with applications, whether it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the moment I'm still stuck
with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs
but an inconvenient when
using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar,
and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
_______________________________________________
Linux-audio-user mailing list
Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
14 Oct
14 Oct
8:02 a.m.
Going back to the topic[1], here are some more links I had in my bookmarks:
Touchpad 2 Midi <http://www.livelab.dk/touchpad2midi.php> (it seems it's
free but not as in freedom)
http://www.livelab.dk/touchpad2midi.php
fijuu <http://fijuu.com/> : Fijuu is a 3D, audio/visual installation. Live
perfomance using a PlayStation-style gamepad
http://fijuu.com/
Linux pSeudo MIDI Input <http://lsmi-all.sourceforge.net/>
http://lsmi-all.sourceforge.net/
The Wiinstrument <http://screenfashion.org/releases/the_wiinstrument/>
http://screenfashion.org/releases/the_wiinstrument/
[1] I would like to achieve something until I buy some decent interface
2009/10/12 Carlos Sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>
Hi Michal,
2009/10/12 Michal Seta <mis(a)artengine.ca>
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hey,
Here's my take at adapting a USB joystick (purchased second hand, $20
for a pair) as a "controller" for my guitar. I actually performed
with that thing. The thumb sticks were replaced by photocells so that
by waving my hand in front (and changing the intensity of light
reaching the components) I could control some continuous parameters.
The buttons of the pad were mapped to various things, depending on the
"preset".
http://tinyurl.com/yzgrzvp
It was all hooked up to pd in which most of the audio processing took
place except for some presents where the buttons controlled a
sooperlooper instance via OSC.
What a guitar-attached-controller! ;) It might be good for controlling fx,
but maybe a little tricky to start recording a loop at the time you play
with your right hand.
Anyway, really nice. Do you have the project available.
I have now decided to give up the USB joystick on that instrument and
try to figure something out with the wiimote
which is a lot of fun to
play with. The other usual contender is an iPod Touch/iPhone even if
mostly used in connection with OSC.
Have fun digging, there are a lot of fun projects around.
Talking about wiimote and MIDI, keep track of a project I'm involved that I
mentioned some time ago, wiimidi:
http://github.com/fontanon/wiimidi
It's in its first steps, but I hope at the end it would be really easy and
useful for every kind of user.
Thanks.
./MiS
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your
own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours
for your mails on the
list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of them,
I'm
rather interested in something like (inexpensive
and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling
and
have interaction with applications, whether
it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio
interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the
moment I'm still stuck
with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs
but an inconvenient when
using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar,
and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
_______________________________________________
Linux-audio-user mailing list
Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
31 Oct
31 Oct
4:50 p.m.
Hi all.
Just a few words to tell that I managed to get a decent solution until a buy
some audio interface.
It is in my TODO to explain here what it is about to help in someway anyone
who is interested, but I've been so busy this past weeks that I couldn't do
it.
In short, I used an old qwerty keyboard as a MIDI-keyboard and an old mouse
as a trigger-pedal thanks to this:
http://lsmi-all.sourceforge.net/
Thank so much to you all.
2009/10/14 Carlos Sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>
Going back to the topic[1], here are some more links I
had in my bookmarks:
Touchpad 2 Midi <http://www.livelab.dk/touchpad2midi.php> (it seems it's
free but not as in freedom)
http://www.livelab.dk/touchpad2midi.php
fijuu <http://fijuu.com/> : Fijuu is a 3D, audio/visual installation. Live
perfomance using a PlayStation-style gamepad
http://fijuu.com/
Linux pSeudo MIDI Input <http://lsmi-all.sourceforge.net/>
http://lsmi-all.sourceforge.net/
The Wiinstrument <http://screenfashion.org/releases/the_wiinstrument/>
http://screenfashion.org/releases/the_wiinstrument/
[1] I would like to achieve something until I buy some decent interface
2009/10/12 Carlos Sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs(a)gmail.com>
Hi Michal,
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
2009/10/12 Michal Seta <mis(a)artengine.ca>
Hey,
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Here's my take at adapting a USB joystick (purchased second hand, $20
for a pair) as a "controller" for my guitar. I actually performed
with that thing. The thumb sticks were replaced by photocells so that
by waving my hand in front (and changing the intensity of light
reaching the components) I could control some continuous parameters.
The buttons of the pad were mapped to various things, depending on the
"preset".
http://tinyurl.com/yzgrzvp
It was all hooked up to pd in which most of the audio processing took
place except for some presents where the buttons controlled a
sooperlooper instance via OSC.
What a guitar-attached-controller! ;) It might be good for controlling fx,
but maybe a little tricky to start recording a loop at the time you play
with your right hand.
Anyway, really nice. Do you have the project available.
I have now decided to give up the USB joystick on that instrument and
try to figure something out with the wiimote
which is a lot of fun to
play with. The other usual contender is an iPod Touch/iPhone even if
mostly used in connection with OSC.
Have fun digging, there are a lot of fun projects around.
Talking about wiimote and MIDI, keep track of a project I'm involved that
I mentioned some time ago, wiimidi:
http://github.com/fontanon/wiimidi
It's in its first steps, but I hope at the end it would be really easy and
useful for every kind of user.
Thanks.
./MiS
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
* Musix GNU+Linux
http://www.musix.es
Hi dear folks.
I would like to do some kind of a survey to know about configs, setups,
controllers, etc that you have come to over the years and based on your
own
experience. (Well, I already know some of yours
for your mails on the
list)
It's usual to see piano keyboards and controller boards, i.e. Behringer
BCF/BCR2000 or FCB1010.
But more than this kind of consumer products, which I know many of
them, I'm
rather interested in something like (inexpensive
and) strange MIDI
controllers, pedal boards, Arduinos, DIY HW... that allow controlling
and
have interaction with applications, whether
it's Ardour, Rosegarden,
Freewheeling, Sooperlooper, Pd, Supercolider, Mixxx ...
Why this? I've been willing for a long time now to buy an audio
interface
with MIDI and maybe some controller, but at the
moment I'm still stuck
with
just my keyboard and mouse; it's ok with DAWs
but an inconvenient when
using
live loopers (most of all when playing guitar,
and without a MIDI
interface).
Thanks in advance.
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Carlos "sanchiavedraz"
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15 Oct
5:50 p.m.
Hi Carlos,
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Carlos Sanchiavedraz
<csanchezgs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What a guitar-attached-controller! ;) It might be good
for controlling fx,
but maybe a little tricky to start recording a loop at the time you play
with your right hand.
Yes, triggering recording of loops was impossible in some contexts.
At that time I did not require a very tight loop sync so it was good
enough.
Anyway, really nice. Do you have the project
available.
I am not sure what you mean by "project". Although I try to archive
as many performances as possible, I could not pinpoint today which
employed that gizmo. So I do not have any specific recordings. Else,
if you mean DIY project instructions, I never really compiled any. It
was just a spur of a moment thing when I ripped a joystick open,
bent-circuit it and fastened to the guitar with elastics. Not much
thought put into it, as long as it worked. The only documentation is
the set of pictures you saw on flickr.
Talking about wiimote and MIDI, keep track of a
project I'm involved that I
mentioned some time ago, wiimidi:
http://github.com/fontanon/wiimidi
It's in its first steps, but I hope at the end it would be really easy and
useful for every kind of user.
That's cool. I have been using the [cwiidmote] in Pd but it is good
to know that other alternatives exist, especially since I hack python
occasionally as well.
Cheers
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