22 Jun
2010
22 Jun
'10
4:39 p.m.
I forward the following, b/c I realize I only replied to Fons when I meant
to reply to the group!
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From: Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron(a)akjmusic.com>
Date: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LAU] OT: Microphone choice for pipe organ
To: fons(a)kokkinizita.net
http://recordinghacks.com/reviews/tapeop/audio-technica-at2020/
I have two Audio-Technica AT2020. They are are steal for their price. They
recording anything well, and in blind tests compete admirably with mics
several times their price. A good general purpose mic, IMO. They are also
heavy duty, made of metal, so they aren't overly fragile either....
Re:Behringer.....I don't know about their mics, but I do have a small
Euro-rack mixer, and I've had nothing but good feelings about it. I know an
engineer who swears that the ICs in most of these mixers is the same
anyway.....
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:54 PM, <fons(a)kokkinizita.net> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:40:34PM +0100, Jonathan
Gazeley wrote:
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Best,
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org
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Best,
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org
So, is anyone able to recommend good quality but
inexpensive dynamic
mics that can cope with the loud SPL of a pipe organ at ten feet,
have a low background noise, and don't mind being at the end of a
20m XLR cable?
Today 'cheap' general-purpose mics tend to be electrets - simple
electret capsules can be mass-produced much cheaper than dynamic
ones. Dynamic mics, at least good ones, tend to be specialised for
vocal use, while ribbons dominate the high-quality non-condenser
niche.
I'd avoid anything called Behringer, and go for example for some
of the cheaper AKG electrets.
Ciao,
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E guerra e morte !
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22 Jun
9:17 p.m.
Hi,
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 16:39:03 Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
Re:Behringer.....I don't know about their mics,
but I do have a small
Euro-rack mixer, and I've had nothing but good feelings about it. I know an
engineer who swears that the ICs in most of these mixers is the same
anyway.....
Their mixers are noisy as hell. The new series (since they made them silver)
even more then the old series of consoles (dark blue). They have serious
cross-talk problems.
And the new series also feature some brain-dead design ideas: Who the hell
thinks its a good idea to have the mute-button _not_ mute the monitor feeds in
a board designed to do both monitoring and foh??? Good luck in fighting feed-
backs.
And they break after about two years of light usage with little or no moving
around.
The good products from them are very few:
- Their 19" headphone amp seems to be a cheap standard if you need many
channels for choirs and such. But there are good alternatives from SM-Pro for
example.
- Their digital console is relatively good quality for the money making it a
good item for starters and little churches (with no money). Still it breaks
after 2 years of usage.
- With Fons hack, their ADA-8000 seems to be good for the price.
But most (all?) of their products suffer from bad design (as in board layout),
cheap parts and cheap labour mounting the devices. And from engineers that
have to save while copying other firms successful devices. And apparently they
seem to make money with that. Probably the same as trash-tv is still making
money regardless that everyone thinks its sh*t.
Thats it for my rant on this manufacturer for this month.
Have fun,
Arnold
10:39 p.m.
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 09:17:41PM +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
- With Fons hack, their ADA-8000 seems to be good for
the price.
If you mean removing the gain pots, I really can't recommend
doing that to anyone except in the quite peculiar conditions
that made me undertake that operaion (which is not easy and
not without risks).
There are 8 of these in the 'Lampadario acustico' at the CdS.
After less then two years two units have failed and had to be
replaced (which is cheaper than repairing them). Better wait
a month or two, save some money and buy something better.
Ciao,
--
FA
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
11 p.m.
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 22:39:48 fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 09:17:41PM +0200, Arnold
Krille wrote:
So the reduces their 'useful' devices to about two... Doesn't really sound
like a recommendation...
Arnold
- With Fons hack, their ADA-8000 seems to be
good for the price.
If you mean removing the gain pots, I really can't recommend
doing that to anyone except in the quite peculiar conditions
that made me undertake that operaion (which is not easy and
not without risks).
There are 8 of these in the 'Lampadario acustico' at the CdS.
After less then two years two units have failed and had to be
replaced (which is cheaper than repairing them). Better wait
a month or two, save some money and buy something better.
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