2 Feb
2014
2 Feb
'14
12:28 a.m.
Hello,
(Sorry for crossposting from Ardour list but I figured someone here
could answer faster).
I clicked on 'something' in Ardour 3.5.358 top bar and now it's
gone. It was hiding behind the main window, so I clicked on the small
up arrow on the right of the stand-alone bar (eg. detached window for
these controls) and now, it's really gone from sight. I've browser the
menu options but did not find where to re-activate it. Cannot record,
sicne the record button is part of the bar. I have loaded the Axiom 25
control interface, but the record button of the Axiom does not enable
recording (play and rewind works).
How to make the top control bar visible again ?
Thanks !
2 Feb
2 Feb
3:23 a.m.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 18:28:39 -0500,
"jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com" <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote :
I clicked on 'something' in Ardour 3.5.358
top bar and now it's
gone. It was hiding behind the main window, so I clicked on the small
up arrow on the right of the stand-alone bar (eg. detached window for
these controls) and now, it's really gone from sight. I've browser
the menu options but did not find where to re-activate it. Cannot
record, sicne the record button is part of the bar. I have loaded
the Axiom 25 control interface, but the record button of the Axiom
does not enable recording (play and rewind works).
How to make the top control bar visible again ?
I certainly do not understand why it is so friggeringly obscure to make
the GUI bar with the recording button and other controls and clock
visble again. The whole software is useless if the main recording
button cannot be seen and activated. I don't know on what I clicked to
make it go away, but the remaining application screen, or a menu option
somewhere should provide a way to make it visible again. The control bar
became a floating window on its own, but now it's completely gone from
all desktops and the main application doe snot provide a mean to make
it part of the main GUI window as it was before. Maybe I have to
downgrade to the previous version... hopefully the sessions newly
created are compatible with the previous version !
3:53 a.m.
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:23 PM, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com
<jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com>wrote;wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 18:28:39 -0500,
"jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com" <jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com> wrote :
(1) ardour-users is the mailing list for this, as you've noted
(2) we cannot accomodate ALL window managers and their behaviour
Linux offers massive flexibility with things like window managers. This
comes with a price.
You've already figured out (based on the mail to ardour-users) what to
click on. The rest - we can't control for this and keep every Linux user
happy.
What window manager do you use?
I clicked on 'something' in Ardour
3.5.358 top bar and now it's
gone. It was hiding behind the main window, so I clicked on the small
up arrow on the right of the stand-alone bar (eg. detached window for
these controls) and now, it's really gone from sight. I've browser
the menu options but did not find where to re-activate it. Cannot
record, sicne the record button is part of the bar. I have loaded
the Axiom 25 control interface, but the record button of the Axiom
does not enable recording (play and rewind works).
How to make the top control bar visible again ?
I certainly do not understand why it is so friggeringly obscure to make
the GUI bar with the recording button and other controls and clock
visble again. The whole software is useless if the main recording
button cannot be seen and activated. I don't know on what I clicked to
make it go away, but the remaining application screen, or a menu option
somewhere should provide a way to make it visible again. The control bar
became a floating window on its own, but now it's completely gone from
all desktops and the main application doe snot provide a mean to make
it part of the main GUI window as it was before. Maybe I have to
downgrade to the previous version... hopefully the sessions newly
created are compatible with the previous version !
4 a.m.
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 21:53:41 -0500,
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote :
(1) ardour-users is the mailing list for this, as
you've noted
Yes, and I did say I'm sorry for cross-posting :)
You've already figured out (based on the mail to
ardour-users) what to
click on. The rest - we can't control for this and keep every Linux
user happy.
I've learned that Shift-Space starts recording, which is nice.
Controlling play/rewing from the Axiom is also nice. Having the record
button on the Axiom working would be also nice.
What window manager do you use?
KDE that comes with Linux Mint 14.
3 Feb
3 Feb
1:19 a.m.
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 10:00:27PM -0500, jonetsu(a)teksavvy.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 21:53:41 -0500,
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote :
JFTR, and sorry for being pedantic - but what you did was multipost
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
"Crossposting is the act of posting the same message to multiple
information channels (forums, mailing lists, or newsgroups) in such a
way that reading software can relate copies of this message on different
information channels. Thus reading software is showing this message only
once. This is distinct from multiposting, where copies of the message
cannot be related."
--
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing." --- Malcolm X
(1) ardour-users is the mailing list for this, as
you've noted
Yes, and I did say I'm sorry for cross-posting :) 
2 Feb
2 Feb
12:54 p.m.
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 09:53:41PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
Linux offers massive flexibility with things like
window managers. This
comes with a price.
You've already figured out (based on the mail to ardour-users) what to
click on. The rest - we can't control for this and keep every Linux user
happy.
* Quit Ardour.
* Open ~/.config/ardour3/ardour.rc in a text editor.
* Search for "transport tornoff" and set it to "no".
* Save.
* Restart ardour.
I'd agree with the OP that Ardour should provide a way to recover
torn-off windows if they ever get lost off-screen or otherwise.
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
6:57 p.m.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:05:45 -0500, Paul Davis wrote
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Fons Adriaensen
<fons(a)linuxaudio.org> wrote:
I'd agree with the OP that Ardour should provide a way to recover
torn-off windows if they ever get lost off-screen or otherwise.
an excellent and seemingly obvious idea. i'll add it today.
After reading Fons' mail I was about to reply that one could
simply save the initial view and then later on restore it.
But, to my astonishment, 'goto view ...' doesn't restore UI state.
I have to admit that I never used views before, but wouldn't that
be the mechanism to use?
BTW, my recent Ardour checkout seems to fix a longstanding issue
with starting Ardour in a maximized window (the ardour log window
would constantly come in front of the main window which would then
be put in front of the log etc.). Thanks for the fix.
Cheers RalfD
--
R. Mattes -
Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg
rm(a)inm.mh-freiburg.de
7:01 p.m.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:57 PM, R. Mattes <rm(a)mh-freiburg.de> wrote:
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:05:45 -0500, Paul Davis wrote
the definition of what a "view" is can be subject to quite a bit of
variation. it does not (currently) include every aspect of window
configuration but is mostly about track visibility, zoom level, timeline
position and vertical scroll.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Fons Adriaensen
<fons(a)linuxaudio.org>
wrote:
I'd agree with the OP that Ardour should provide a way to recover
torn-off windows if they ever get lost off-screen or otherwise.
an excellent and seemingly obvious idea. i'll add it today.
After reading Fons' mail I was about to reply that one could
simply save the initial view and then later on restore it.
But, to my astonishment, 'goto view ...' doesn't restore UI state.
I have to admit that I never used views before, but wouldn't that
be the mechanism to use?
11 p.m.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:05:45 -0500,
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote :
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Fons Adriaensen
<fons(a)linuxaudio.org>
wrote:
> I'd agree with the OP that Ardour should
provide a way to recover
> torn-off windows if they ever get lost off-screen or otherwise.
an excellent and seemingly obvious idea. i'll add
it today.
There's a reset option for the Appearance, eg. color scheme. Maybe a
reset that not only includes colors, but default positions of menus ?
One last note on the problem: today I rebooted the machine and
everything was OK. I haven't modified any config file. So it was some
confusion (KDE, Ardour ?) going on.
The way I'm setting up musical apps is like this: on one desktop I have
Ardour main screen full screen (via menu option), on another desktop I
have Ardour's mixer full screen (KDE full screen window option). Hot
keys makes it easy to switch desktops (and also to Renoise which is full
screen on another desktop, or to Zyn and QSynth on yet another
desktop). One symptom of the software 'confusion' yesterday was
that the add-a-track dialog box did not pop up on the current main
Ardour desktop, but on the one with the full screen mixer. I'd guess
Ardour does not specify where to popup dialog boxes, and for some
reason KDE popped it up on another desktop.
Anyways, back to normal now. I'll make darn sure not to hit that
little arrow again !! :))
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