New subject: Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 24, Issue 12

12 Feb 2009

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Message: 27 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:34:16 +0100 From: ben 
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Laura Conrad a ?crit :

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   >>> >>>>>> "ethan"
== ethan a young &lt;ethan.y.us(a)gmail.com&gt; writes:
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     ethan> What has other's experiences been so far with these new and
     ethan> developing programs?

 I use lilypond and have used ABC in the past.  You can use rosegarden
 or musescore as a frontend to lilypond, but I haven't been very
 successful doing it.  I have an emacs program that takes MIDI keyboard
 input and puts lilypond notes in the buffer, and I can use
 point-and-click on the xpdf screen to get back to my emacs buffer.  

 I don't claim that this is as easy to set up as a GUI would be, but
 given all the options you want for a full-featured notation editor,
 for me anything that works with emacs is easier to use than anything
 that doesn't.

 Following the thread, i admit i still do not have made my choice:
 i stared by using denemo with lilypond output, then switched to write
 lilypond or ABC with vim, and have recently given a try with nted. I
 noticed nted has a good midi-output, considering ornaments and other
 expression directives.
 - ben 
i was really excited when i first discovered lilypond, but it's intimidating to get
started in (hah, this coming from someone who abandoned windows and went fully to linux on
a whim... :)  regardless, i don't know how to make lilypond work to produce scores...i
tried with the jEdit front-end, but that never worked well.

i haven't ruled out lilypond, but it seems like programmers are most comfortable using
it, and i am no programmer...

i really like the fact that NtEd is truly WYSIWYG...even Encore was never this good, and i
had to trust the printer output because the display was often corrupted comparatively. 
Finale looked good, but i am biased against Finale and similar programs -- tried it and it
was really complicated and unintuitive for me. mouse clicks and button presses often did
not do what i expected them to!

i never looked seriously at Rosegarden -- not to say it isn't a good program.  i'm
sure it is :)  but i didn't want a full "music composition environment."  by
the time i enter music into the computer, it is fully composed in my head and/or on paper
:).  i suspect it is the same for many composers and musicians who spend most of their
time off the computer, which is why i think a program like NtEd is so important.

i just want something that can make beautiful scores without much fuss or a steep learning
curve, but with a powerful editor so i can publish and archive my compositions in a
semi-professional manner.

what features is NtEd missing?

I put it in a similar category as Seq24:  it's a simple tool, but it does what
it's supposed to do very well.  I think it is aimed at a different audience than
RoseGarden, though.

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