1 Mar
2011
1 Mar
'11
10:33 a.m.
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
Any suggestions?
Regards
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Joel Roth
1 Mar
1 Mar
11:52 a.m.
New subject: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
On 03/01/2011 07:33 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that is
misbehaving.
Clearly it's XP misbehaving, not the laptop itself.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above
formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Mplayer, vlc, totem etc. all handle wma, provided you have appropriate
codecs installed.
Depending on distro or player backend, suitable packages might be called
w32codecs, gstreamer-plugins-ugly etc.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution
for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
I'm running Fedora on an HP laptop, Pentium M, 512MB RAM, with Xfce and
rpmfusion[1] for non-free formats.
A very usable setup, but would benefit from more RAM, as any machine would.
[1] http://rpmfusion.org
11:58 a.m.
Hello Joel!
When you get mplayer and can't find the codecs package for that, head to
their website:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu
Look for downloads and you will find the codecs packages there. I suggest
you take the all-somedate.tar.bz2
Unpack and copy all file to /usr/lib/win32codecs
Maybe it's only /usr/lib/win32
Perhaps one of those already exists.
Otherwise, nothing to add. :-)
Warm regards
Julien
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6:53 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:33:59PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
DRM rears it's ugly head!
One reason for the misbehavior may be that the hard drive
has a lot of errors, including some bad sectors.
I backed up the entire user directory... not a single error.
Then I copied a couple WMA albums to a NTFS drive.
These are albums he ripped using Windows Media Player.
Try as I might, I couldn't get them to play under Linux. As
Julien suggested, I tried downloading codecs from the
mplayer site, deliberately specifying which codecs to use,
and playing with ffplay (ffmpeg).
So I rebooted *my* laptop into the obligatory Win7 partition,
set up the media player (choosing don't get rights from the Internet)
and then double-clicked the file. Surprise. Win7 says "You don't have
rights to play this!"
Could some DRM limitations explain why I can't play these files
under Linux?
Does someone know ways people work with or around this? The
guy is a drummer, and he and his wife are destitute.
We don't have much of a budget for repairs.
Thanks.
Any suggestions?
Regards
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2 Mar
2 Mar
12:35 a.m.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 07:53:12AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:33:59PM -1000, Joel Roth
wrote:
What I usually do in such cases is
boot up a live cd like knoppix and
run a few tests (e.g badblocks) to determine whether there is a real
problem or only windows insanity.
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that
is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
DRM rears it's ugly head!
One reason for the misbehavior may be that the hard drive
has a lot of errors, including some bad sectors.
I backed up the entire user directory... not a single error.
Then I copied a couple WMA albums to a NTFS drive.
These are albums he ripped using Windows Media Player.
Try as I might, I couldn't get them to play under Linux. As
Julien suggested, I tried downloading codecs from the
mplayer site, deliberately specifying which codecs to use,
and playing with ffplay (ffmpeg).
What does mplayer say when failing?
So I rebooted *my* laptop into the obligatory Win7 partition,
set up the media player (choosing don't get rights from the Internet)
and then double-clicked the file. Surprise. Win7 says "You don't have
rights to play this!"
Could some DRM limitations explain why I can't play these files
under Linux?
Possibly.
Does someone know ways people work with or around this? The
guy is a drummer, and he and his wife are destitute.
We don't have much of a budget for repairs.
Thanks.
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3 Mar
3 Mar
10:03 a.m.
----- "Joel Roth" <joelz(a)pobox.com> wrote:
I backed up the entire user directory... not a single
error.
luky guy
Then I copied a couple WMA albums to a NTFS drive.
These are albums he ripped using Windows Media Player.
Try as I might, I couldn't get them to play under Linux. As
Julien suggested, I tried downloading codecs from the
mplayer site, deliberately specifying which codecs to use,
and playing with ffplay (ffmpeg).
why ffplay? why not mplayer?
Does someone know ways people work with or around
this? The
guy is a drummer, and he and his wife are destitute.
We don't have much of a budget for repairs.
can't you post somewhere one of those files so that we can
try to play them? Or just a few seconds if you can, I think
it's more or less legal. Or send a link to me by private email.
Always a pleasure to help someone digging for, well, freedom.
Cédric.
11:32 a.m.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 10:03:37AM +0100, Cedric Roux wrote:
I tried both. I believe that Windows Media Player applies
some kind of DRM.
----- "Joel Roth" <joelz(a)pobox.com>
wrote:
Yabbut, I found that Windows Media Player 11 doesn't allow
a backup/restore of the license file. :(
Also, there are lots of errors in the Windows FAT partition,
but I can't correct them until I figure how to eliminate
a directory cycle.
OTOH, at least Windows XP boots. That means he can play
music at home.
For everything else, I have a Puppy Linux system that
he can start by loading a CDROM.
I backed up the entire user directory... not a
single error.
luky guy Then I copied
a couple WMA albums to a NTFS drive.
These are albums he ripped using Windows Media Player.
Try as I might, I couldn't get them to play under Linux. As
Julien suggested, I tried downloading codecs from the
mplayer site, deliberately specifying which codecs to use,
and playing with ffplay (ffmpeg).
why ffplay? why not mplayer? > Does someone know ways people work with or around
this? The
> guy is a drummer, and he and his wife are destitute.
> We don't have much of a budget for repairs.
can't you post somewhere one of those files so
that we can
try to play them? Or just a few seconds if you can, I think
it's more or less legal. Or send a link to me by private email.
I'll send you a link.
Always a pleasure to help someone digging for, well,
freedom.
Thanks!
Cédric.
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1:16 p.m.
----- "Joel Roth" <joelz(a)pobox.com> wrote:
I tried both. I believe that Windows Media Player
applies
some kind of DRM.
Yes, the file you sent is indeed DRM-"protected."
If it's ripped from CDs maybe you can rip everything
again using cdparanoia (cdparanoia -B -z is cool)
and then encode with oggenc, thus having nice
"free files" (don't pretend they are free fries).
Sorry, I can't help more...
4 Mar
4 Mar
3:30 a.m.
New subject: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Joel Roth <joelz(a)pobox.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:33:59PM -1000, Joel Roth
wrote:
ntfsclone can replicate a windows (boot) partition from linux
You may need to adjust the partition flags with fdisk.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694828
[Pardon if this is an irrelevant answer -- not really read the whole thread]
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that
is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
DRM rears it's ugly head!
One reason for the misbehavior may be that the hard drive
has a lot of errors, including some bad sectors.
I backed up the entire user directory... not a single error.
Then I copied a couple WMA albums to a NTFS drive.
These are albums he ripped using Windows Media Player.
Try as I might, I couldn't get them to play under Linux. As
Julien suggested, I tried downloading codecs from the
mplayer site, deliberately specifying which codecs to use,
and playing with ffplay (ffmpeg).
So I rebooted *my* laptop into the obligatory Win7 partition,
set up the media player (choosing don't get rights from the Internet)
and then double-clicked the file. Surprise. Win7 says "You don't have
rights to play this!"
Could some DRM limitations explain why I can't play these files
under Linux?
Does someone know ways people work with or around this? The
guy is a drummer, and he and his wife are destitute.
We don't have much of a budget for repairs.
Thanks.
Any suggestions?
Regards
--
Joel Roth
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3:53 a.m.
New subject: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody(a)gmail.com> wrote:
ntfsclone can replicate a windows (boot) partition from linux
You may need to adjust the partition flags with fdisk.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694828
[Pardon if this is an irrelevant answer -- not really read the whole thread]
Just remembered that there are some other details -- cleaning up some
registry entries and other stuff necessary to make it (cloning windows
from old to new disk) work but cant find the links right now.
Can search it after Monday if you need.
4:07 a.m.
New subject: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ok found the links (Not cleaned up)
And sorry once again if this is totally OT for ur question
http://www.dominok.net/en/it/en.it.clonexp.html
http://www.2pi.info/software/copying-windows-new-hard-drive.html
http://www.nilbus.com/linux/disk-copy.php
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916146
6:25 p.m.
It's a long shot, but have you tried playing these files only on 64bit
systems. There are a few wma files that will only play on a 32bit
version of Linux. In Debian, make sure you have w32codecs installed.
Cheers,
S.M.
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 08:37:24AM +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Rustom Mody
<rustompmody(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ok found the links (Not cleaned up)
And sorry once again if this is totally OT for ur question
http://www.dominok.net/en/it/en.it.clonexp.html
http://www.2pi.info/software/copying-windows-new-hard-drive.html
http://www.nilbus.com/linux/disk-copy.php
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916146
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5 Mar
8:53 a.m.
New subject: Migrating and otherwise manhandling XP installations (was: Re: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
Thanks, Rustom, these are useful references.
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 08:37:24AM +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:
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1 Mar
1 Mar
7:47 p.m.
New subject: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
Joel Roth wrote:
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
If the WMAs are encrypted, I don't think any Linux distro can play them.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution
for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
Any distro with the XFCE desktop environment. Try some of the Linux Live
CDs like Linux Mint on it and see.
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3 Mar
3 Mar
10:08 p.m.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:47:35AM -1000, david wrote:
Joel Roth wrote:
Since they are encrypted, it looks like some sort of dance
would be needed to convert them to ogg, etc.
That dance would take place under Windows. Unfortunately
it's a difficult environment. Not only the OS, but the
various ad-ware that continuously pop-up.
I tried to install Firefox, but some virus causes
IE to run instead!
There appear to be some decent DRM removal apps out there,
however they some measure of tinkering.
I found out he's got Windows Media Player v. 11, and IBX key
version 11.0.6000.6324. There is FairUse4WM and Mirakagi
that appear to work for that, *if* you sign up for a Napster
account just in order to install breakable keys. What a
PITA!
I may just leave him to use his old Windows partition
as a media player.
Thanks.
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Joel Roth
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that
is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
If the WMAs are encrypted, I don't think any Linux distro can play them.
1 Mar
1 Mar
8:13 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:33:59PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that is
misbehaving.
He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats.
Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these?
Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be
run off an existing Windows partition.
As others have pointed out, mplayer (and
possibly vlc, gstreamer apps,
etc.) can handle most things without problem. The only exception is wma9
which does not seem to work. Also, I am not sure about the playlist
format, but that probably could be converted to something else without
too much fuss and bother.
I'm considering installing a Linux distribution for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
Someone mentioned xfce; my wife used it for a while on ab old
laptop
with 256MB of RAM and it mostly worked fine for her, even using such
graphics tools as gimp. Lxde is another minimalistic environment people
speak well of, although I have little personal experience with it. If
your friend is adventurous, there are even more minimalistic window
managers out there, such as ion and fluxbox. Finally, there is ice3wm,
which I understand was specifically designed to emulate popular
environments such as OS X and Windows, though once again, I have no idea
how well it performs.
Cheers,
S.M.
Any suggestions?
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8:27 p.m.
New subject: Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists
S. Massy wrote:
LXDE uses more memory than XFCE. I think it's also very buggy about
modifying menus, but I could be wrong.
I'm
considering installing a Linux distribution for him.
The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on
a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to
view videos as well.
Someone mentioned xfce; my wife used it for a while on ab old
laptop
with 256MB of RAM and it mostly worked fine for her, even using such
graphics tools as gimp. Lxde is another minimalistic environment people
speak well of, although I have little personal experience with it. If
your friend is adventurous, there are even more minimalistic window
managers out there, such as ion and fluxbox. Finally, there is ice3wm,
which I understand was specifically designed to emulate popular
environments such as OS X and Windows, though once again, I have no idea
how well it performs.
FluxBox probably has the lowest memory consumption of them all. I like
it, but it might take some getting used to for people used to Windows9x.
There's also a fork of the last KDE3 release called TDE. It implements
some bug fixes but otherwise doesn't have the bloat and performance
issues of KDE4. You can install it on most any distro, I guess. KDE is
much like Windows 9x/WP, so might be easy to adjust.
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