20 Sep
2010
20 Sep
'10
7:37 p.m.
Hello everyone1
I'm still a bit unclear about the use of netjack with jack2. Thjere is the
internal netmanager, then there's still jack_netsource. How is the setup
built? (an exact command succession based on teh assumption that a standard
jack is already running, would be nice).
Kindest regards
Julien
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20 Sep
20 Sep
7:52 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:37:34 +0200 (CEST)
Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hello everyone1
I'm still a bit unclear about the use of netjack with jack2.
Thjere is the internal netmanager, then there's still jack_netsource.
How is the setup built? (an exact command succession based on teh
assumption that a standard jack is already running, would be nice).
These are my commands for a setup involving ardour on the [server] and
the [client] having a turntable attached to it in another room from
which I record old LPs.
[server]
jackd -S -R -dalsa -r48000 -p128 -n2 -D -Chw:M1010 -Phw:M1010 -Xseq -H
-M
jack_load netmanager
[client]
jackd -R -dnet
qjackctl will then show the client (hostname) in the Audio tabs.
This works flawlessly for me as long as I'm not using the network pipe
between these two machines for anything else.
Hope that helps.
David
7:58 p.m.
Hello David!
That is helpful. Yet how to start the jack_netsource or how to try the
connection. The netmanager says:
Listening on '225.3.19.154:19000'
But my server has a completely different adress and I want to work it over
the WAN.
So what would I use on the server side to connect to my net-server.
Warmly yours
Julien
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8:09 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:58:16 +0200 (CEST)
Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hello David!
That is helpful. Yet how to start the jack_netsource or how to try
the connection. The netmanager says:
Listening on '225.3.19.154:19000'
It is my understanding that jack_netsource isn't used in a jack2 setup.
Regarding addressing, according to the docs [1]
If you need, for particulary[sic] reasons to set another Multicast
address or UDP Port, you can use :
jack_load netmanager -i "-a xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -p port"
... and on the client, use the same address and port with the
-a and -p parameters
jackd -dnet -h
[snip]
-a, --multicast_ip Multicast Address (default: 225.3.19.154)
-p, --udp_net_port UDP port (default: 19000)
[/snip]
But my server has a completely different adress and
I want to work
it over the WAN.
I'd be extremely interested in WAN performance. Like I said, if my
setup has any concurrent traffic, I get serious xruns. I'm not sure
netjack will work very efficiently over a WAN.
David
[1]
http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/NetJack2
8:15 p.m.
Hello David!
I think that's where the CELT codec comes in. As to the other side: It will
be jack1. I didn't read anything saying, that jack2 and jack1 netjack aren't
compatible. There is the question of the CELT version you have, but beyond
that, it *SHOULD* work I think. As to the multicast adress, this is all very
well, but the source will need my ip-adress, won't it? And I need a way to
specify it. Is this really done by the -a option to the jack netmanager?
jack_netsource at least has an option to specify a slave host (-H host_ip).
Kindly yours
Julien
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9 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:15:08 +0200 (CEST)
Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hello David!
I think that's where the CELT codec comes in. As to the other
side: It will be jack1. I didn't read anything saying, that jack2 and
jack1 netjack aren't compatible. There is the question of the CELT
version you have, but beyond that, it *SHOULD* work I think. As to
the multicast adress, this is all very well, but the source will need
my ip-adress, won't it? And I need a way to specify it. Is this
really done by the -a option to the jack netmanager? jack_netsource
at least has an option to specify a slave host (-H host_ip). Kindly
yours Julien
I think I understand but terminology is confusing, by "source" do you
mean the client or the server? Server/client terminology is also
confusing as "server" is simply the jackd instance that is bound to a
sound card and jackd -dnet on another machine just appears as a jack
client.
From where to where do you want communication or both ways? That
question is actually irrelevant to netjack but it will help me to
understand what you are expecting vs what is happening.
I'm by no means an expert, but I've successfully connected machines to
one another since I first start using jack bzw. netjack.
I'll try a jack2/jack setup specifying a non-default multicast address
and let you know.
David
9:14 p.m.
Hello David!
OK, the client is me with ipa, the server is my friend with ipb.
so my friend must somehow specify ipa to connect to my jackd -dnet. I think
he's still using jack1. So the port for netjack (19000) is forwarded through
the firewall and back to me as well. I think my brother said, that he
specified UDP for 19000.
I want a two-way connection. I'll use jack_diplomat - if it works - to
bridge between jackd -dnet and jack -dalsa on my machine. Or do you know a
better way?
Kind regards
Julien
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9:11 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hello David!
I think that's where the CELT codec comes in. As to the other side: It will
be jack1. I didn't read anything saying, that jack2 and jack1 netjack aren't
compatible.
they are completely incompatible.
for WAN usage, netjack2 is not an option. either use netjack1 (aka
"netone") with CELT or jack.trip
of course, if you have direct Internet2 access, then even netjack2 will work.
--p
9:33 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:11:09 -0400
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Julien Claassen
<julien(a)c-lab.de>
wrote:
well, yup, just tried lightly and jackd -dnet (jack1) doesn't initiate
any kind of connection.
Sorry ...
Hello David!
I think that's where the CELT codec comes in. As to the other
side: It will be jack1. I didn't read anything saying, that jack2
and jack1 netjack aren't compatible.
they are completely incompatible. of course, if you have direct Internet2 access, then
even netjack2
will work.
interesting ...
David
21 Sep
21 Sep
6:56 p.m.
Hi Paul,
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:11:09 -0400
Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Julien Claassen
<julien(a)c-lab.de>
wrote:
jacktrip is interesting. I just tried a simple:
-> start jackd on server
-> start jackd on client with same rates etc
-> start jacktrip -s on server
-> start jacktrip -c <server-ip>
on both machines, jacktrip shows up as jack client but 'sending' is
never 'received' in either direction.
Server logs: "Waiting for Connection From Client..." and that's it.
At any rate, netjack2 works for me but what is the purpose of jacktrip
if netjack works?
Hello David!
I think that's where the CELT codec comes in. As to the other
side: It will be jack1. I didn't read anything saying, that jack2
and jack1 netjack aren't compatible.
they are completely incompatible.
for WAN usage, netjack2 is not an option. either use netjack1 (aka
"netone") with CELT or jack.trip
7:10 p.m.
Hey David!
jacktrip is used to connect two jack servers over a WAN, even with jack2.
Kind regards
Julien
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11:06 p.m.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 07:09:58PM +0200, Julien Claassen wrote:
Hey David!
jacktrip is used to connect two jack servers over a WAN, even with jack2.
Kind regards
Julien
jack2 has support for netjack1 !!!
the driver is called netone
master:
jack_netsource ...
slave:
jackd -dnetone
this would be netjack1
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6:47 a.m.
On 09/21/2010 09:53 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
Hi Paul,
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:11:09 -0400
Paul Davis<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
Most probably you need to open ports in your firewall...
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Julien
Claassen<julien(a)c-lab.de>
wrote:
jacktrip is interesting. I just tried a
simple:
-> start jackd on server
-> start jackd on client with same rates etc
-> start jacktrip -s on server
-> start jacktrip -c<server-ip>
on both machines, jacktrip shows up as jack client but 'sending' is
never 'received' in either direction.
Server logs: "Waiting for Connection From Client..." and that's it. Hello David!
I think that's where the CELT codec comes in. As to the other
side: It will be jack1. I didn't read anything saying, that jack2
and jack1 netjack aren't compatible.
they are completely incompatible.
for WAN usage, netjack2 is not an option. either use netjack1 (aka
"netone") with CELT or jack.trip At any rate, netjack2 works for me but what is the
purpose of jacktrip
if netjack works?
Jacktrip is meant for remote multichannel jam sessions. See the
SoundWire site:
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/groups/soundwire/
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