Linux-audio-user December 2003

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RE: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re: [linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

My wife is the comptroller for a US Navy activity. She is the ultimate hard-core Excel user ;-) Neither Open Office nor Gnumeric can handle the macros that she uses. Jan -----Original Message----- From: "linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu" <linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu> on behalf of "John Bleichert" <syborg(a)earthlink.net> Sent: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:46:31 -0500 (EST) To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu> Subject: RE: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re: [linux-audio-user]ebayguy: looks like he figured it out On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 eviltwin69(a)cableone.net wrote: > > Dave, > > The one thing that I would do (I had to do this for my wife because she has to have Excel for her job) is to buy Crossover Office and Crossover plugin so that you can load Micro$oft Orifice and some nice browser plugins. It's well worth the 70 bucks and then they don't have to worry about format problems. Of course, you do have to own a copy of Micro$oft Orifice first ;-) Do you get the feeling that I'm not a big fan of Micro$oft ;-D > > Jan > Bull. For a standard desktop user, flash and java work fine in Mozilla. I've moved half my family over to Slackware/Mozilla/OpenOffice for the same reasons the O.P. is doing it. It works fine for all of them, nearly bulletproof. I've even convinced my Sister (with the help of my nephew) to use Mozilla for web and email and OO on her XP laptop. Been doing fine for a year now. Unless the target user is a really hardcore MS Office user, there is nothing they'll need CodeWeavers for. If they are, that's a different story. Just my 2 pfennig. Sorry for the OT follow-up. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu" <linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu> on behalf of "Dave Phillips" <dlphilp(a)bright.net> > Sent: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 08:39:40 -0500 > To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu> > Subject: Is the Linux desktop really here ? was: Re: [linux-audio-user] ebayguy: looks like he figured it out > > tim hall wrote: > > >PS: Watching my nine-year old and various friends use my system, I'd say the > >Linux Desktop for casual users is here, given the availability of technical > >support. IMX it's the configuration that is difficult, not the installation & > >usage. > > > > > Hi Tim: > > A few days ago I wrote to the list and recounted a story about setting > up a Windows 2000 system for some > very non-computer-savvy friends of mine. Well, that saga knows no end: I > had to go to their house yesterday > and get it going for them again. It's true that they are *really* in the > dark about their machine, but it's got so > ridiculous that I've decided on a new plan. I'm going to set up a Linux > box for them and see how they do with it. > These people do very little else but use a Web browser (what they call > "the computer") so I want to see just how > hard or easy it would be for them to use a modern Linux system. It'll be > an interesting experiment, and if I have to deal > with the system at least it will be a real OS with real tools and the > real possibility of actually fixing it if it breaks. > Win2K is nice, but what a vacant system ! I can't believe people have > paid so much and received so little in return > for their money. > > Anyway, if this experiment works I'll report back to this group. The > folks using this box aren't music/sound people, > but I do plan on setting up XMMS, RealPlayer, and possibly xine or > Mplayer for on-line video feeds. Let me know if > you have any suggestions for making it as easy as possible for them to use. > > Best regards, > > Dave Phillips > > // John Bleichert // syborg(a)earthlink.net

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] [admin] topic?

by Joern Nettingsmeier

hi everyone! this list has been very busy lately with off-topic exchanges on linux (and windows!) applications and their respective advocacy in general. the off-topic traffic seems to be drowning the audio-related discussions. i don't really mind and it's not up to me do decide, but i'd like to ask you to consider all the folks out there with crammed inboxes who thought they were subscribing to an audio list ;) in any case, the discussions (whether on-topic or not) show what a nice place lau has become, and how much people like to hang out and just chat about anything. ;) take my comment as a suggestion only, if you feel you need to reply, consider to do it in private mail, and for a quick chat about not-so-on-topic things with your linux audio pals, try #lad at freenode.org. (and come to karlsruhe and to linuxconf.au and to linuxtag next year, of course!) all the best, jörn -- Happy Birthday, Professor ! Noam Chomsky, born Dec 7, 1928 Jörn Nettingsmeier Kurfürstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server) http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers)

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] trying to midiconfig still

by Kevin Ryan

Ok, I'm still trying to find out how to configure the midiports of my Knoppix 3.3 system (how to find out what the input/output device is in /dev) And trying to see if my driver is Alsa or OSS. There is no aconnect or kaconnect command. No /dev/snd or /dev/sndstat or /proc/asound. relevant entries from lsmod command are: sb 7796 sb_lib 33550 [sb] uart401 6052 [sb_lib] sound 55276 [sb_lib uart401] soundcore 3428 [sb_lib sound] I didn't see anything relevant out of the long /etc/modules.conf (if I need to post something specific there, let me know...) Help anyone? thanks... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Recording from SPDIF with SB live

by lau＠hippie-online.de

Hi linux-audio-users, I am a newbie in this list - so first of all hello to everybody! :-) Can anybody give me some hints about my following problem? I would like to record directly from my DAT recorder (48 kHz) via SPDIF. As a greenhorn in harddisk recording I expect that there should be a way to get an exact copy of the data on the tape with no input level / mixer and no DA-AD conversion in between?! Unfortunately so far I did not succeed in recording from the SPDIF-input at all. I am just able to route the DAT signal to the analog line out by setting its volume using alsamixer. But the SPDIF-in does not appear in other mixers like kmix and the signal is not available in recording programs like audacity or krecord. :-( I am using: - SuSE 8.2 / kernel 2.4.20 / i86 - alsa 0.9.0 - emu10k1 - Soundblaster live! rev. 4 Ciao, HippiE

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] midifiles - software only

by Atte André Jensen

Hi Let me start by saying that I'm running debian/unstable... I suddenly needed to play a midi file for the first time in a looong time. But it seems that the timidity-patches are not in unstable anymore... What's the best and or easiest way to play midifiles (software only) in high quality under debian? -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://www.atte.dk

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Intellectual Property

by Juhana Sadeharju

>> I'm thinking some not very nice thoughts about Luminousity right now... Well. After this case I don't want release anything under GPL. We need GPL3 which requires the license and copyright info to be available prior purchase or download. Then people could search for the original software from the original author (the one who has the copyright because the license and copyright cannot be modified). Also, the source code should be made available without an extra request. Now GPL requires that either source is made available or it can be sent upon request. The latter condition should be removed. Also, the original name should be preserved. The names of the borrowed or modified software should be available prior purchasing. For example, Audacity customers should know that Audacity is using free software such as allegro, dlcompat, expat, iAVC, id3lib, libflac, libid3tag, libmad, libnyquist, libogg, libresample, libsamplerate, libsndfile, libvorbis, portaudio, portmixer, soundtouch, and wave++. The guy should list the name Audacity and the whole above list beside his own name. The intellectual property should be respected! Like any scientific paper lists the references, should the free software as well have a "references" section. It could be enough that all copyrights are kept intact, but I would like to see a "references" listing which lists the URLs to the original and other software as well. Everyone of us should also start referencing where we pick up the ideas: journal papers, magazines, webpage, other software, told by a friend, etc. Too many times I see that features are copied from other software, but the software is not credited. E.g., I have invented the "b" feature in Audacity, and if somebody copies the feature to the Sound Forge or elsewhere, I would like to read that the feature was copied from Audacity. Patents are good in this context but they are too expensive for me. We should respect IP some other way, like via good manners. BTW, the guy did not edit the source code, but changed the name in the screenshots with the image editor. This is considered as bad both by advertising officials and by consumer officials because one cannot advertise another product and sell other ("Audacity"). This case shows (from the feedback) that consumers are not able to request good products and are easily fooled. Sad. It also shows people don't think security issues at all. Who want to buy software, executables, from a dishonest person? Regards, Juhana

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Midiox for Linux ?

by Geoff Beasley

Is there an equivelent app to this Windows program ? Are there any apps under Linux that do smpte ot MTC reliabl yet ? I know that Muse sequencer has a low grade implementation, but are there any others ? Thanks.

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Re: USB, what's the story? (was: Firewire,

by Andrew Burgess

>Is this fixed-time vs. fixed-size usb issue addressed in the 2.6 kernel >(or is it alsa or is it something else)? AFAIK its part of the USB spec. We are stuck with it :-)

21 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Firewire, what's the story?

by Robert Jonsson

Hi, I recently read about the new MotU 828mkII (Firewire 8in/8out interface). This sparked a enewed interest in Firewire and I looked around for other interfaces. I found the Presonus Firestation (among others), it that seemed to be very good value for money. (the MotU ain't bad either, but a bit on the expensive side.) A laptop + such an interface would in may opinion make a great pair! So, does anyone have a clue if any of these are likely to work under linux anytime soon? The Firestation seems to use mLAN, I know I've seen talk about it here before. I have no idea whether mLAN would make the chances better or worse ;). /Robert

21 years, 1 month

RE: [linux-audio-user] more specifics

by Matthew Allen

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Cannam [mailto:cannam@all-day-breakfast.com] > > I can't comment on running either of those under Knoppix, except to > say that I'm quite certain Knoppix 3.3 uses ALSA. Actually by default (with a hd install) it doesn't. http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2173#10717 There are a number of threads at knoppix.net talking about setting up Alsa correctly after installing it yo your hard drive. My experience (yours obviously will vary) suggests you may be better off going with one of the really nice sound distros instead of knoppix (planet ccrma, http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ and Agnula, http://www.agnula.org are the 2 I tried, I ended up with Agnula (debian) for a bunch of little reasons) Knoppix is great (My wife uses it on her laptop and I use it on an old laptop without a harddrive, as an X client to my sound machine) but its not very realtime sound app friendly, and I don't know enough super geek stuff to make it so (not yet at least) m.

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Linux-audio-user December 2003