Hi,
i am running pd 0.37.0 as root with the latest kernel from planetccrma with -jack using Qjackctl as user - i am using alsa 1.0.1 with a hdsp card on RH.9 P4 2.6 with 2gigs of dual channel ram
jackstart -R -d alsa -d hw:0 -r 44100 -p 1024 & (or somthing like that)
pd -rt -jack
whenever i use the plugin~ 0.2 (LADSPA) external, the smallest thing (select all- drag) causes pd to crash and the only way it will restart is by doing a reboot.
i just tried without plugin~ and get the same thing though plugin~ does seem to like to crash my system quite easily..
here is the last jack error:
subgraph starting at pure_data_0 timed out (subgraph_wait_fd=24, status = 0, state = Running)
client pure_data_0 error: awake_at = 663526372 state = 2 timed_out = 2
**** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 11.868 msecs
13:32:56.712 Audio connection graph change.
13:32:56.712 XRUN callback. (4)
13:32:56.837 Audio active patchbay scan...
i can't restart pd with either -jack (with the jack server running) or -alsa (with the jack server off) unless i reboot
sometimes i get the audio in/out stuck - closing error sometimes but mostly the watchdog: signaling pd error just keeps appearing
any ideas?
or, if not, is there anyway i can reinitiate things without having to do a reboot?
thanks,
rob
www.robcanning.utvinternet.com
stefan kersten:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:24:28AM +0100, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
> > > I don't know about other garbage-collected languages, but
> > > there is no way to temporarily disable GC in Python,
> > > nor any way to force it to run at a particular time.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, but python have a reference-count garbage collector, so
> > the problem shouldn't matter for python.
>
> note that reference counting behavior doesn't differ that
> much from a sweeping gc: as soon as a count to a large
> object tree drops to zero the whole tree will be freed
> instantly, causing an indeterminate delay in execution,
> unless you defer free operations until there is time to
> perform them. additionally, AFAIK python uses malloc/free
> for memory management, which are inherently non-realtime.
>
Sure, thats true. But at least compaired to the guile GC
which stops the world for many many ms-s, its much
more predictable.
> i'm not sure if turning off gc is a real solution for (long
> running) musical applications. why'd you have a gc in the
> first place?
Smaller and more elegant programs. Less time used
on finding bugs. Probably more reasons.
--
Bill Schottstaedt:
>
> > By the way, I am not able to turn off guile's garbage collector.
>
> Try ++scm_block_gc. Then to turn it back on, --scm_block_gc.
>
Thank you very much. I'll try that.
--
I guess it's a character flaw on my part but this is driving
me nuts.
Yesterday I spent a couple of hours trying to figure out
why my system does not play an audio clip at the site below.
The clip is from an NPR show, SoundMoney, and is of interest
to my wife, a prof in the School of Business at Xavier
University. Her machine, running that other OS, plays it; mine
RH 8.0 from Planet CCRMA (vintage March 2003) plays Real streams
with no problems; I use it every day.
(note some long lines below may have "wrap"ed.)
At the NPR SoundMoney site there is a link to
http://www.reppe.com/
At that site (below the picture) we see:
Rik's Latest on NPR's Sound Money
2/7/04 - Why Capitalism Rocks: Twix, Frisbees, and the Grateful Dead
Listen
the Listen link is to:
http://www.soundmoney.org/play/audio2.php?media=/2004/02/07_soundmoney&star…
When I click on it, my Konqueror browser asks what program to open it with.
If I say Konqueror, the Konqueror displays the audio2.php file:
<smil>
<body>
<seq>
<audio
src="rtsp://a754.v5559f.c5559.g.vr.akamaistream.net/ondemand/7/754/5559/v001/mpr…"
clip-begin="00:00:53:24.0" clip-end="00:00:57:54.5"/>
</seq>
</body>
</smil>
Usually, Konqueror opens real streams with realplay with no problems.
If I say open with realplay, realplay comes up and fails to play,
complaining that "Some component is missing ..."
After much searching on google and google groups, I think I've learned
that the web site itself is failing to execute the .php file and not
sending the stream. I also tried using Mozilla and wget with the same
results.
This is not an important problem for me, but it is bugging me to the
point of distraction. Do any of you folks understand what's happening
and why my wifes OS plays and mine won't?
> The problem with lisp and other modern languages are the issues with garbage
> collection which might arise in real time use.
I don't think this is a problem; you can usually turn off
the GC during time-critical code, and in most cases, such code
is in C anyway (handled via a foreign function interface), and
at least in normal use, you're in control at that level.
Besides, modern hardware is far faster than people seem to
realize, and modern GC's don't spend much time on a sweep.
Gad, now I'll have to go and run some tests...
Bill Schottstaedt:
>
> I don't think this is a problem; you can usually turn off
> the GC during time-critical code, and in most cases, such code
> is in C anyway (handled via a foreign function interface), and
> at least in normal use, you're in control at that level.
> Besides, modern hardware is far faster than people seem to
> realize, and modern GC's don't spend much time on a sweep.
> Gad, now I'll have to go and run some tests...
>
By the way, I am not able to turn off guile's garbage collector.
Infact, I don't think there is a function for it, and its
definitely needed. Shouldn't we try to convince the guile people
to add that functionality?
--
hi
am still making footprints as a linux user
started using SC3 @ OSX
but
prefer using it @ promt mode linux
the difficult part of linux is that
you have to learn a lot before you run a program
if it is not included in the distro
the best way for me to learn is to
run anyway and learn deeper gradually
and a about to make my mind to just wait
until things get prepared in the distro
since ALSA became the default of Kernel 2.6.x
is it likely that
JACK will also get included in any of many distros?
i will at least learn
Planet or DeMuDi ?
what about SClang?
will i be waiting forever
because there is some reason
that things cannot be handled that way?
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I use a 96/8 Pad. Works great with ALSA and Jack both. I try to keep this page up to date about RME96/8: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=rme96
I can't speak for the Marian Marc 2 Pro.
If you're up to it, I would recommend Gentoo over Red Hat + Planet CCRAM. It takes more work, but I get much better response from my machine with audio apps under gentoo.
regards
-Reuben
-----Original Message-----
From: Mirouf Linux [mailto:mirouflinuxaudio@yahoo.fr]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:33 PM
To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu
Subject: [linux-audio-user] RME DIGI 96/8 PAD or Marian Marc 2 Pro
Hi everybody,
I've got choice between RME Digi 96/8 PAD and Marian
Marc 2 Pro in order to put in a Linux Box runnig Red
Hat 9 and Planet CCRAM.
Somebody Told me the RME Digi 96/8 series have some
problems with alsa settings, did anyone use it? Does
it work well with/without Jack ?
Did someone run a Marian Card with ALSA (no info on
alsa-project home page), and specialy a Marc 2 Pro?
Does it work?
Thanks
François Gueurce
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