Linux-audio-user July 2004

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[linux-audio-user] [reed: Denemo develop - state of the art]

by stefano.cardo＠fastwebnet.it

----- Forwarded message from reed ----- To: matthew.hiller(a)yale.edu Subject: Denemo develop - state of the art Hi Matthew, I'm Stefano, an Italian musician and Linux "fanatic" ;-) Two years ago, trying to find a Linux score editor, I knew Lilypond. As you say in GOALS "Well, this is what it is for me: I find it a mite difficult to compose or arrange with emacs. I mean, Mozart wouldn't have had a problem with it, but I'm not that talented -- it's very, very helpful to me if I can actually see the music that I'm developing as it gets developed." I'm completely agree with you!! Again "GUI notation tools are also pretty good for entering music quickly if you have a midi keyboard; just plunk down the notes on the midi keyboard with the right hand and enter durations with the left. (Of course, I don't have a midi keyboard myself, but from what I understand this feature allows one to enter a part quite rapidly.)" With Finale I've never use it, and I did a lot of transcription for Bass clarinet and Piano... In DESING you wrote: "You'll notice that denemo doesn't have hooks for many of Lilypond's features. (In fact, providing hooks for all of them would be practically impossible without writing something at least as complicated as Lilypond itself.)" I don't know anything of write software, I haven't time to study C++, but I want to consider few things: - MIDI development is not an HIGH priority of a typesetting editor You say:" Why is the user forced to do these things manually? Well, mainly, it just doesn't seem that there's much advantage to a GUI environment for putting playing directions directly into the music, fine-tuning the way the music is beamed, putting multiple independent voices onto the same staff, adjusting a staff's relative position, and other things like that. In fact, it seems that there's a distinct disadvantage to GUIfying these operations: pushing such features to the frontend will burden the interface and make GUI tool harder to use. (I can say from personal experience that this has definitely happened to Finale.) It's just much better to handle this kind of complexity with the precision and well-defined-ness of plain ASCII text." As a musician, write a dotted eight A in the second space, is too different and difficult to write a'8. (or something like these.. Write a slur or a crescendo mark or other things as having a pen in hand aren't a disavantage... pushing such features to the frontend will not burden the interface and don't make GUI tool harder to use... "I will admit that this manner of doing things will present challenges to novice users. Users should find the effort to be worthwhile, though. And it's not really _that_ difficult to learn how to use GNU lilypond; it's still easier than, say, learning C plus its gtk+ bindings. :)" Lot of possible Linux user will remain to their dual boot machine or with an old laptop with Finale... ;-) I'm going to translate the .po file into it.po and I'm tring to find my best keymaprc.. In debian sid there is a TOO unstable version... so for me is too difficult to say "hey there is a bug here!! ". But I believe very much in your project, believe me!! Hope to see an your reply soon!!! Ste ----- End forwarded message -----

20 years, 6 months

[linux-audio-user] 96K

by Matthew Barber

->My impression is that the more maths an audio professional knows, the more sure the audio professional is that higher sampling rates is a bad thing. (unless you are recording sounds that is later going to be downsampled a lot of course) Perhaps its impossible for us non-skilled-mathematicians to understand properly why 96 kHz is a bad thing...<- One thing 96K provides is plenty of headroom for aliasing if you're doing some kind of novel synthesis technique that tends to generate tons of high partials... the 24 bits are nice, too.

20 years, 6 months

RE: [linux-audio-user] Finale for Linux

by Polashek, Matthew

Keep this in confidence. I had a meeting with John Paulson (President and founder of Finale) the other day and spoke with him regarding the possibility of producing a Linux version of Finale now that they have produced an OSX version. He mentioned that they had looked at it but decided not to develop a version at this time. The fact that his programmers brought the idea up is very exciting and if we contact them with enough requests I think there is a good possibility they will make a Linux version. Matthew Polashek Associate Editor, Silver Burdett Ginn - Music Scott Foresman/Pearson Education 299 Jefferson Road Parsippany, NJ 07054-0480 Matthew.Polashek(a)scottforesman.com > ---------- > From: reed > Reply To: A list for linux audio users > Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2004 1:50 PM > To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu > Subject: [linux-audio-user] Finale for Linux > > I think that if some one of you believe that an open source development of > Finale has to birh, > we have to write them a lot... > > I wrote to: > > bwolff(a)makemusic.com > winsupport(a)codamusic.com > winsupport(a)makemusic.com > winsupport(a)smartmusic.com > > ste > > > Stefano Cardo > Debian DeMuDi GNU/Linux User > > > > **************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. ****************************************************************************

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[linux-audio-user] Finale for Linux - Ist step

by reed

I've wrote again to Codamusic.com... they reply me: Hello, Thank you for the email. I will pass it along to the development team. Phil Technical Support Representative MakeMusic!, Inc. Coda Music Technologies I wait news... ste Stefano Cardo Debian DeMuDi GNU/Linux User

20 years, 6 months

[linux-audio-user] Lib_fst + VST server...

by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen

Russell Hanaghan: > > Just wondering what the consensus is on the new lib_fst and recent > updates to vst server...is it getting easier to install for example? > > I spent a LOT of time last round to no avail. I really want to be able > to use my VST's on linux but I also need SLEEP! :) Regarding the vstserver, theres small small changes in the code since the last release, (which probably wont affect many people anyway). But I haven't released anything because I'm not able to make the vstserver compile with later versions of wine. I haven't asked on the wine-list because I previously haven't much answers on that list, and I don't know how to express the problems I'm having either. The vstserver works pretty well, and, at the moment, probably much better than lib_fst for most people. But I wouldn't reccomend at all using any vst plugins in linux if theres a good ladspa/jack alternative. Its problematic, and should in my opinion only be used in special situations, for example if you want to show windows people that, yes indeed, you can run the B4 vst instrument in linux. Or, if you want to use the B4 vst instrument in linux, because you want to use the B4 vst instrument. Nah, only my opinion. I'm sorry, its not allways very easy to use, and my general advice if you can't get a vst plugin to work, is that you should just give up. --

20 years, 6 months

[linux-audio-user] Soundcards & preamps [a bit OT]

by Sampo Savolainen

Hi, This is rather off-topic, but it also crosses over to Linux compatibility. I have a long standing head-scratching problem. I've been pondering over the question of microphone preamps and soundcards. I have a quite portable home-computer (a shuttle box + delta44) which I use for recording. I do recording for our band, so my computer visits our rehersal room quite often. The problem is that because I need preamps for the microphones, I need to take my quite mixer with me, which means a lot of unwiring an wiring plus it's heavy. I would like to be able to just go. I could buy a second mixer, but I would like to have 'proper' preamps. A mixer is full of all sorts of stuff, which I really don't need. I wouldn't like to pay the price for a mackie just for the pres. For the money I could buy better pres. I could buy a (almost) proper preamp, like two M-Audio DMP3:s or Tascams MA-8, maybe even TL audio 5001. I can't afford the real preamps, my price range is somewhere below 500. (But I could end up carrying it to and from the rehersal room, because I'd like to fiddle with it at home.) Then there is the option of having the preamps in the sound card itself. I need more than two, so the Omni I/O is out of the question. I just found about the Terratec MIC-8 (http://produceren.terratec.net/product.php?pid=9). It's well out of my price range, but it has 8 inputs, so it would also be a nice soundcard upgrade, so it _might_ be a good investment. But of course, there would be a lot of unwiring/rewiring... Does anyone know is this card supported by Linux? Is it just a better break-out-box for the EWS88? Are there other cards like this I should look at? (perhaps a bit cheaper?) The most beautiful part about this card is the headphone jack. And last, the most important question: Do you have other options, how have you dealt with the studio-on-the-go problem? Sampo

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Re: [linux-audio-user] how good are soundfonts and where do I find them?

by Sampo Savolainen

The sfark program works fine under wine. Use that to decompress the soundfonts. I have tried quite a few free piano soundfonts, they are quite nice, but I have a problem with fluidsynth. The polyphony works a bit wrong. If I press one key down hard and then whack a chord (the same chord, all the time) about 10-20 times, the first not will stop playing. It seems that fluidsynth does not realize, that at least with the piano sound, the same 'sound slot' should be used over and over for the chord. Does anyone know a fix for this, is fluidsynth just configured wrong, or is the problem with the soundfonts I've used? Sampo Quoting Atte André Jensen <atte(a)ballbreaker.dk>: > Hi > > Being new to soundfonts I baically needed a decent piano soundfont for > arranging stuff for my students, but after shopping around, I thought it > maybe could be taken a step further. So my question is: Are soundfonts > good enough for "real" music production? And where can I find nice ones > to download? I guess I'm looking for imitations of real instruments, > mostly piano, accoustic drums and bass, but expressive strings and other > orchestral sounds would also be nice. > > So far I found the "FluidR3 GM.SF2" (142M), how does that compare to > what's outthere? I also found alot of .sfArk sounds but it seems they > are in som kind of windows-only compressed format. I downloaded the > sfarkxtc_lx86.tar.gz but it complains "This file was created with sfArk > V1, and this program only handles sfArk V2+ files. Use sfArk instead." > on all the .sfArk-files I downloaded. Is there a linux utility that will > uncompress those files? > > I run debian/unstable and plan on using fluidsynth and rosegarden if it > matters... > > -- > peace, love & harmony > Atte > > http://www.atte.dk > > > >

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[linux-audio-user] Jamin

by David Baron

OK, I tried this (version from Debian Sid). This app must be fed by something else. Would be much better if it could read pcm files directly! So I set it to input from Xmms-biojack and output to alsa. I then disconnected the "biojack" from alsa so as to only play through Jamin. Jamin will kick out fairly often so takes a bit to get it ready to play! Non-real time: Slows down the play! Real time: Plays highly distorted. Could not really try anything with this. I am running on a PIII clocked to 575mhz with 512m RAM. Running Debian Sid, 2.6.7 kernel. I put in the realtime-lms to enable real time. Am I missing anything or am I simply asking too much of this system.

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[linux-audio-user] gmorgan-0.24 released

by holborn

Hi I release this version because i ported the code to win32, linux version only has minor bugs fixes. Thanks Josep

20 years, 6 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] Fresh PC waiting for basic installation - Advice?

by Alejandro Lopez

Hi Everyone, Fernando and Joseph, thanks for the info on Fedora Core 1 / 2 and ALSA. >If you have the time and bandwidth you could just do some trial installs and pick the distro that appeals to you most. All of them are good I would be very happy to keep ANY if I succeed in making it work! :-) Thanks Jan and Them for sharing your experience, I see you are very significantly more skilled than me but still useful posts (you can't help being skilled, can you? :-)) >These are good questions to base your decision on. I think you'll find it easier than that. ;-) Yeah if it works don't bloody touch it! :-)) Thanks Tim for the useful info on DeMuDi. >AGNULA/DeMuDi has now an all-in-one bootable CD-ROM ISO image, Hi Free, that sounds ideal for the music-only system I'm after, I wouldn't need to set up a full OS as a first step. The classic approach of installing the OS first and then some RPMs on top of that would be the flexible option (if you want to use the PC for things other than music) but I don't need that, I don't even want that, I'd rather keep things as simple as possible and install the minimum needed by the music apps. Thanks for the advice. Downloading now.. :-) Cheers, Alex _________________________________________________________________ Acepta el reto MSN Premium: Correos más divertidos con fotos y textos increíbles en MSN Premium. Descárgalo y pruébalo 2 meses gratis. http://join.msn.com?XAPID=1697&DI=1055&HL=Footer_mailsenviados_correosmasdi…

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Linux-audio-user July 2004