--- Paul Winkler <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:34:30PM +0100, tim hall
> wrote:
> > I want to use SC4 to essentially 'flatten out' a
> vocal take. I know such
> > approaches are generally frowned on around here,
>
> are they?
To frown on compression as a mater of principle is an
act of ingnorance and laziness. Wow, waking up at 3:00
AM makes Ron a frightful boy. Fortunately I'm probably
only scaring myself so there's no need for confession.
Whew!
> > but the take has a large
> > dynamic range and it simply won't sit right in the
> mix any other way. I'm
> > really not sure where to put the threshold and
> compression ration to achieve
> > this kind of effect and I could do with some
> guidelines on attack, decay and
> > knee settings. It's a pop song, and yes I really
> do want it to sound like
> > that. any ideas?
>
> Sure, here's what I do.
> Start with the compression ratio around 4-5 (that's
> plenty - it may
> be more than you need but that helps you dial in the
> other controls).
> You won't actually hear any compression until you
> turn down the threshold
> level, so do that now. Gradually turn it it down
> until you start hearing
> (and seeing on the meter) some gain reduction
> whenever the voice
> is actually singing. When you like the sound, add
> some makeup gain
> until the overall level is good.
>
> The default attack/release settings are maybe slow
> for vocals, so I turn
> them down a bit - attack to about 20, release to
> about 150.
>
> So far I have not needed to tweak the "knee"
> parameter.
>
> For my own stuff I don't tend to like really obvious
> compression except
> as an occasional deliberate effect. So once I've got
> a sound I like,
> I then tend to reduce the compression ratio
> gradually until I think it could
> maybe use a little more, and at that point I leave
> it alone :-)
> Maybe come back to it later and see if I still like
> it.
That's all sensible to me. And the reason we return
later is because at some point in the song the vocal
dynamics/volume reaches a level where it drowns out
another instrument that should be heard. Any of the
paramaters can be tweaked to correct the problem but
knowing why we use compression is the key to
understanding what to do.
Until we use compression as an effect or tone shaper
all we're doing is using it to control volume. One of
my forumulamatic uses is with close mic, low volume
vocals where the mic is your lover's ear. I like to
smack/compress the shit out of that stuff. If the
speaker is touching my ear the volume better not jump
up and hurt me or the mood will be gone and that song
will be sleeping on the couch.
ron
> But if I'm trying to sound like pop radio, I might
> go the other
> way and set the compression ratio to something
> severe like 10:1.
>
> There's some good guidelines to be found all over
> the net...
>
http://www.alesis.com/support/faqs/masterlink_comp_app.html
>
http://www.digido.com/portal/pmodule_id=11/pmdmode=fullscreen/pageadder_pag…
>
>
> --
>
> Paul Winkler
> http://www.slinkp.com
>
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Hello Lists,
As some of you may know, I'm the guy who wrote Specimen. And as a tiny
fraction of that some may know (or care), Specimen hasn't seen an update
in an exceedingly long time.
What, exactly, is going on?
The answer, dear friends, is simple: music. My introduction to the art
of electronic music composition began precisely when Specimen
development halted. For a few months, I fumbled around with countless
little songs in an attempt to figure out how one goes about the process
of coaxing the electrons in such a fashion as to result in sonic
euphoria. And once I reached that point where the magnitude of my
suckiness became bearable, I began writing songs.
This process began in February with the assistance of an old friend, who
lent his discerning ear and exceptional bass talent to the effort. And
yesterday, we finished step one --- general composition. We now have 11
rough drafts that will be polished into a full length album and released
next fall --- 100% Linux and OSS produced.
It occurred to us that we might share some of this with all you folks
out there in Internet land, both to stoke the flames of anticipation and
to remind my adoring public that I have not yet shed this mortal coil.
So, I am pleased to present a collection of snippets from the
aforementioned tracks above, pieced together in an easy to swallow
medley:
http://www.gazuga.net/preliminary_beats.ogghttp://www.gazuga.net/preliminary_beats.mp3
And for those interested in staying abreast of the latest and greatest,
be sure to tune into The State of the Beat:
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That's all for now, but don't worry --- I'll be back before you know it.
Kinda like herpes, only better.
Peace out,
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I'm looking for a nice, cheap sound card with a 24 bit ADC/DAC and a good MIDI connection. Does anyone have any that's treated them pretty well with alsa drivers?
My current sound card seems to experience unknown MIDI problems and, also, I can't kill the "straight through" signal when using jack-rack, meaning I'm getting the processed and unprocessed signals.
Thanks!
Dan
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Hi Noah,
> what ever happened to session exchange?
It's alive and well at:
http://www.taybin.com/software/sex/index.html
Paul Davis and I used it to demonstrate exchanging the
results of a realtime mix using oddcastv3-jack from my
studio in MPLS, MN to the Linux audio conferance
(http://lac.zkm.de/2005/index.shtml) in Karlsruhe,
Germany.
ron
It sounds
> like it would have
> been a good idea but seems to have died?
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Noah Roberts" <roberts.noah(a)gmail.com>
To: "A list for linux audio users" <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu>
Subject: [linux-audio-user] unable to use qsynth
Check the devices... I think you want to use /dev/snd/seq for this kind of playback.
For some reason, qsynth doesn't work with my system with the alsa drivers but does with the oss drivers.. to change the device in qsynth, use the same commandline arg as fluidsynth:
I use:
qsynth -o midi.oss.device=/dev/snd/midiC1D0
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:49:31 -0700
>
> I am trying to use qsynth to play midi files through jack. I have
> tried 3 different sound fonts. 2 make no sounds and the GM font just
> crashes with output 'Killed'. fluidsynth does the same when using
> that font. When I play the midi with pmidi -p 129:0 file.mid I see
> green lights flash and such, but no sound comes out. I turned up gain
> but nothing happens. Using Qjackctl I see that the connections are
> right, it should be making noise. Pmidi seems to be ok with it...
> But nothing comes out. I have tried 3 different fonts and 2 different
> files having totally different content (one heavy metal the other
> piano music). I don't know what to try next.
>
> Thanks for any help.
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I am trying to use qsynth to play midi files through jack. I have
tried 3 different sound fonts. 2 make no sounds and the GM font just
crashes with output 'Killed'. fluidsynth does the same when using
that font. When I play the midi with pmidi -p 129:0 file.mid I see
green lights flash and such, but no sound comes out. I turned up gain
but nothing happens. Using Qjackctl I see that the connections are
right, it should be making noise. Pmidi seems to be ok with it...
But nothing comes out. I have tried 3 different fonts and 2 different
files having totally different content (one heavy metal the other
piano music). I don't know what to try next.
Thanks for any help.
For some reason, my session file doesn't open in latest CVS (nightly
tarball) version but it does in latest beta (RPM).
Ardour only says "Segmentation fault" after crashing, when trying to
open this file.
QJackctl : "cannot read event response from client [ardour] (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
bad status for client event handling (type = 5)
cannot write request result to client
could not handle external client request
unknown source port in attempted connection [ardour:auditioner/out 1]"
(I did sent this also to ardour users list)
>I'd like to see ogg vorbis theora spread more. I really
>dislike binary only codecs. Ogg vorbis theora has really
>shown us that it's a really cool codec during the LAC.
>The problem in todays software world is not so much closed
>software against open source software but closed file formats
>vs. open file formats IMHO.
Are there commonly-used media players in the windows/apple
world that support theora? I'd like to use open formats if I can, but
I'd also like for non-techheads to see my work. If possible, it'd be
nice to provide the theora video, and also a link to download the
codec, if it integrates with media players that people already have
on their computer. I think it'd be too much to ask people to
download a whole other media player, though.
-spencer
Hey List,
I just finished a video project using all linux tools(cinelerra,
PD, transcode) and I'd like to put it on my band's website, but
I'm not sure what the best way to encode it is. I'd like to put
it up as a quicktime file, because it seems like just about
everyone can view them, but there seems to be a difference
between the jpeg-encoded quicktime files that I'm using, and the
kind that you see commonly around the web. Any ideas on the
most-easily-downloaded video format for the general population?
-spencer
