Linux-audio-user March 2011

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Re: [LAU] Music Made with Linux: The Infinite Repeat - Money or Love (DJ AutoStatic Remix)

by Julien Claassen

Hello Jeremy! thanks for this new mix. I think it's somehow not as dense as your first piece, because it lacks something in the rhythm, although I believe that is part of the current style, which I simply can't adapt myself to. Otherwise, well done you! I think it's definitely something, that will also sound very good over a fully fledged club PA. Some nice sounds in there as well. And where they are not to my liking, they are certainly close to a few I've come across occasionally on the radio and identified as belonging to that clubby, disco-ish style of sound. If your music oscillates and develops out of the range of the two pieces you have done so far, I believe I will enjoy... :-) Warm regards Julien -------- Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles) ======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ======== http://ltsb.sourceforge.net the Linux TextBased Studio guide ======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: ======= http://www.juliencoder.de

13 years, 9 months

Re: [LAU] Laid to rest is Pro Tools LE"...

by Kim Cascone

> A draft plan would look like: > > 1. What Ardour can do (list of features) > 2. Basic concepts of Ardour http://en.flossmanuals.net/ardour/

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Re: [LAU] Laid to rest is Pro Tools LE"...

by Kim Cascone

> it really got too > convoluted for me one man's convolution is another man's reverb ;)

13 years, 9 months

Music Made with Linux: The Infinite Repeat - Money or Love (DJ AutoStatic Remix)

by Jeremy Jongepier

Dear all, This is actually the very first track I made with Linux. Recently I listened to it again and felt this track deserved some more attention so I decided to remix it. Originally this track was made with LMMS and I recorded the vocals with Qtractor. I kept the vocals and parts of the drumsamples and I also stuck with the bass line for the verse and some of the effects. So I loaded all the samples into Hydrogen, recorded all MIDI patterns with seq24 and inserted the plug-ins I wanted to reuse into Qtractor. Well, that was my intention actually. I ended up rerecording guitar parts and added quite some extra samples. Also the number of synths steadily grew during the process, same for the amount of plug-ins I used. This is what I came up with, just freshly ran through LinuxDSP's MBC2 (it's an electro-ish track so I compressed the hell out of it): http://theinfiniterepeat.com/music/the_infinite_repeat_-_money_or_love_(dj_… Stuffs used: * Yoshimi Analogue Bass running through a C* Pre-amp and the Crossover Distortion plug-in * Yoshimi Dubstep (custom patch), I did the cut-off live with an Akai MPK Mini * amSynth Synth Strings 1 patch * SO-666 Feedback Drone LV2 plug-in (LOVE THIS ONE!!! Thanks for this plug-in Jeremy Salwen!!) * WhySynth DragonPurr * MDA Vocoder + Yoshimi Hard Synth * All guitars (Fender Tele and OLP Music Man) done with Guitarix and the Redwirez IR Library (http://www.redwirez.com/free1960g12m25s.jsp?ref=home) * Lots and lots of Calf Compressors and I think every track (about 20) has a different reverb plug-in (TAP, FreeVerb). I also used quite some Calf Vintage Delays for the guitars and the SO-666. And 2 or 3 Calf Phasers. Oh yeah, and the SC3 plug-in to duck the SO-666. * Most drum samples are from the LMMS sample set, I decided to re-use those. The crashes are from the GSCW2 Hydrogen kit. * Last but not least, I added a little Glockenspiel in the bridge. First I wanted to use the Glockenspiel of the SSO library but that specific set of samples is not so great so I drove to our rehearsal room to pick up our drummer's little Glockenspiel, mic-ed it with the first mic I could find (an AT2020) and got it on hdd within a few minutes. Basically I used Qtractor as a mixer, Hydrogen to host the samples and seq24 for the MIDI patterns and automation of Qtractor. Works like a charm. Hope you like it. Feedback is always appreciated! Best, Jeremy

13 years, 9 months

Re: [LAU] Laid to rest is Pro Tools LE"...

by Kim Cascone

On 03/04/2011 04:00 AM, linux-audio-user-request(a)lists.linuxaudio.org wrote: > Not true of Yoshimi. Yoshimi does both JACK and ALSA, for either MIDI or > audio. > > Zyn is less cooperative. David from the Yoshimi list when I couldn't get ALSA midi working in my setup... first came the suggestion: > You're missing *a2jmidid. *After you start jack, run that from the > command line -- or set it up as an application on your toolbar and > just click it. Then route your controller to midi through. Connect a2j > to yoshimi and you should be good to go :) then... > Yoshimi handles alsa midi and jack midi. At build time, you get to > nominate > which of those is to be used by default. Your description of what midi > connections show in qjackctl and patchage suggest you're probably > expecting > alsa midi, while yoshi is running set to jack midi. > > Regardless of the build time default midi setting, you can set the midi > flavour to be used via command line parameter, eg so you have to start the app from the command line if you want to use ALSA midi - which most of my setup is using or use the 'a2jmidid' bridge - either way - see my point about not being n00b friendly?

13 years, 9 months

Audio player that handles WMA audio files and WPL playlists

by Joel Roth

A friend has an old laptop with Windows XP that is misbehaving. He has a lot of music and playlists in the above formats. Does Linux have a player that is compatible with these? Wine is also possible, especially if the apps can be run off an existing Windows partition. I'm considering installing a Linux distribution for him. The window manager needs to be lightweight enough to run on a Pentium M, with 500MB memory. He'd like to be able to view videos as well. Any suggestions? Regards -- Joel Roth

13 years, 9 months

Re: [LAU] Laid to rest is Pro Tools LE"...

by Kim Cascone

> Hello Kim, > > Yes I know that article, which is very biased I think, but I was > referring to your article on CDM in which you state that for music > production on Linux one only needs ALSA (or FFADO for FireWire) and JACK. I see - this is correct and true - until one encounters other legacy layers which might present problems -- I have a vague memory of needing to add a Jack<-->ALSA midi bridge for Yoshimi synth as well as some sort of OSS ALSA mod for some other app to work - sorry but details are fuzzy - and also true is that one can use a distro that makes all this invisible to the user and streamlines the work needed to set up a workflow and get things customized but finding these other (sometimes arcane) distros is not all that easy -- the low hanging fruit is Ubuntu Studio which is rife with issues and no easier to use really than installing Ubuntu and setting up your own workflow with apps and utilities - which is what I have done because I didn't want to switch to another distro i.e. staying with Ubuntu was easier and didn't interrupt my busy work schedule etc etc >>> >> As for tweaking conf >>> >> files, at the moment there are very few files you might have to tweak, >>> >> /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf (or /etc/security/limits.conf) for the >>> >> necessary permissions, maybe /etc/systcl.conf for some performance gain >>> >> and /etc/fstab to add noatime to the necessary mounts. >> > >> > yeah thanks, been there - done that -- sorry but that statement right >> > there is why most people working in music won't come anywhere near Linux >> > for production >> > > Sorry Kim, I didn't want to sound patronizing:( not at all -- I was just pointing out that what works for you and me (as more technically advanced users) will NOT work for 99% of the laptop musicians we know who don't want to get bogged down in technical details -- really all they want to do is 2xclick on Albleton Live and start making music - having them tweak a .conf file just get xruns to a minimum is *not* going to happen...so that perception of Linux audio (right or wrong) is what keeps people from adopting Linux as a production platform - and I know this from traveling the world and meeting hundreds of laptop musicians every year...less than 1% are on Linux...the Apple logo glows from most of the laptops I see staring back at me in my workshops ;) > There are people > working on making it easier to set this up, I've seen some mock-ups for > Ubuntu Studio and Filipe Coelho from KX Studio is working on something > similar too. true there are people working on making it easier - for years Linux audio has made slow gains in being more robust, stable and easy to set up a workflow rather than learning bash scripting - but there is still a mess of layers and conflicting services that make for a complex and confusing environment for most n00bs. Again, I refer you to the article I wrote for CDM where I enumerate the various ways in which this happens. >>> >> Imho I think you can add conservatism, sheer ignorance or simple denial >>> >> that stuff can be done with Linux;) >> > I'd say that 'simple denial' exists on both sides of the issue;) >> > > You mean that I for example don't know about the needs and desires of > potential Linux audio users? I'd say that many Linux users who think nothing of suggesting that all someone need do is tweak a .conf file and enter the trial and error Linux dance of minimizing xruns are indeed in 'simple denial' about the needs of average laptop musician...not a criticism of you so much as an observation from having been a Linux user for nearly 6 years now and a 100% Linux audio user for almost 2 years. To wit: many responses from various Linux audio lists to obvious problems that stem from poorly thought out applications, and the bugs plaguing them, all suffer from the brow-beating and arrogance of those who are more technically advanced versus those who just want to make music and not get a degree in computer science. This is not an effective way to win friends and influence people into adopting Linux. But again, it is true that if more people knew about Pure Dyne (an amazing distro), AVLinux (another top notch distro) or Tango Studio (http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/en) then less of these 'set-up' type problems would keep people from at least trying out Linux for audio production. Now the 'crapplications' that exist are another story - getting crap software out of way involves both holding the developer's feet to the fire to squash bugs and not just leave development in limbo (how many Linux audio apps are there on Sourceforge that haven't been updated since early to mid 2000's?) and to listen to and take seriously the suggestions and criticisms of those people who actually MAKE MUSIC and use the software. Bedroom software developers have never had to learn to eat their own dogfood. But unfortunately the public perception of Linux is still that it is geek-ware and not user-friendly. all in a days work, kim > Best, > > Jeremy

13 years, 9 months

flac file read peak/rms

by Tim Blechmann

hi all, what is the preferred way to compute amplitude peak and possibly rms peak and average rms of a flac file? sndfile-info doesn't seem to display these data for flac files, normalize-audio and doesn't support flac at all. thnx, tim -- tim(a)klingt.org http://tim.klingt.org Question: Then what is the purpose of this "experimental" music? Answer: No purposes. Sounds. John Cage

13 years, 9 months

Re: [LAU] "Laid to rest is Pro Tools LE"...

by Kim Cascone

> I don't really understand your criticism on those convoluted layers upon > layers. http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained read this to see how people outside this list view Linux audio > As for tweaking conf > files, at the moment there are very few files you might have to tweak, > /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf (or /etc/security/limits.conf) for the > necessary permissions, maybe /etc/systcl.conf for some performance gain > and /etc/fstab to add noatime to the necessary mounts. yeah thanks, been there - done that -- sorry but that statement right there is why most people working in music won't come anywhere near Linux for production > Imho I think you can add conservatism, sheer ignorance or simple denial > that stuff can be done with Linux;) I'd say that 'simple denial' exists on both sides of the issue ;)

13 years, 9 months

Bagpipe sound synthesis

by Yvonnick Noel

Hello, Would any of you know of a good way to synthesize a bagpipe sound? I suppose there might be some bagpipe samples but would be interested in approaching the sound synthetically. I once made an attempt on my Roland D50 (yes, years ago...) but found it quite difficult to get but just a convincing result. Any suggestion? Thanks a lot. Yvonnick

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Linux-audio-user March 2011