Linux-audio-user July 2011

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by Gabbe Nord

Hello! I'm on a ardour 2.8.11-setup and I'm looking for the best possible limiter. Rest of my plugin-use is linuxdsp and some calf, so I need a good limiter to be able to crank it all up a notch compressionwise. I'm currently using TAP Scalinglimiter, which is the best one I've found yet that dont give me zippernoise etc, but I can't push that limiter as far as I want without artifacts in the sound etc. Do you guys have some tips? I'd be most grateful! (also, Linuxdsp if you're reading this, please make a good limiter lol. I love your other stuff) Regards!

13 years, 5 months

Unbelievably, a recommendation

by Ralf Mardorf

On YouTube I listened to the young Maria Callas and young Lucia Popp. I've lost several bets now. I was able even to listen to 'The Queen of the Night'. Much more, I was able to enjoy it. Unbelievably. This is Punk-Rock :). In general I don't like this kind of music and I still don't like the old Maria Callas and the old Lucia Popp, but I never noticed that they were cool girls once upon a time. Just the orchestras were a little bit annoying, less Punk-Rock, but stiff as a poker. Anyway, wow, they were quite cool singers once upon a time. I didn't know this until today. Any 80's Punk-Rockers on this list? Listen and ignore the bad orchestras, just listen to the cool girls :).

13 years, 5 months

Vararities Snd-hda-intel and Lexicon USB

by David Baron

Running straight alsa going to the built-in intel/realtek only plays mono! Amixer shows everything as "mono" If I set jack (using qjackctl) to play to the Lexicon HW:1, it still plays throught the built-in (HW:0) and this still in mono! Unpluggin the Lexicon's USB, of course, changes nothing. Direct input to the Lexicon, its line connected to the built-in line also plays mono. What am I doing wrong? I am running Debian Sid, recent 2.6.39 kernel.

13 years, 5 months

Text-based sound visualisation?

by S. Massy

Hello, Recently, I discovered jack_meter, a simple jack client which acts as a level meter and has a very simple "bar" style text output. Using this, I was able to confirm what my ears were telling me about compression level in different mixes. This led me to wonder whether there were any sound visualisation tools using a similar form of output. A quick google search didn't return anything interesting, but I was wondering if anyone here knew of such a tool. Cheers, S.M. --

13 years, 5 months

Re: [LAU] Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 53, Issue 14

by Ralf Mardorf

> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:42:46 +0200 > From: Jeremy Jongepier <autostatic(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LAU] Limiters? > To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > Message-ID: <4E1A9B66.9080905(a)autostatic.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 07/10/2011 11:47 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > > the artist(s) want your attention, not your belt drive :) > > Recently they did start wanting your belt drive (or direct drive in my > case) ;) I already got some double LP's at 45rpm which contain songs > actually, and those are new releases (which sound horrible as mp3's by > the way). Vinyl is coming back a bit, love it! > > Best, > > Jeremy I won't discuss pros and cons CD vs (in my case) direct drive (too), but at least I own old Apple records and Wiki says, that the Beatles recording were badly remastered: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Cd_loudness_trend-something… I once heard the 'I against I' from the Bad Brains on CD and there was no loudnesswar issue, but the sound anyway was bad. Perhaps they used a mastering with equalisation for records and burned it to the CD, dunno, but the sound had disgusting highs. IMO if you want to be safe to get the original sound for old recordings, buy old, secondhand Vinyl. I suspect that modern recordings are made for CDs. Since I'm a (young) Dino I anyway own LPs (without barcode, it wasn't invented when I bought my first records), I won't buy them as CD too. @ 180 seconds: To be honest, I dare even to hear one song only from e.g. Jeff Wayne's 'The War of the Worlds'. I don't have the patience to hear such monsters completely and very often the stories of conceptual recordings aren't that interesting, e.g. 'Buckedheadland' is nice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucketheadland but it's not music I'm able to listen to a complete CD.

13 years, 5 months

'The Knotted Constellation' - video teaser

by Kim Cascone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6uxBp-yy_o&feature=player_profilepage title: 'The Knotted Constellation (fourteen rotted coordinates)' artist: Kim Cascone catalog#: Mono039 release date: July 18 2011 The Knotted Constellation is a cinematic sound narrative that moves the listener through a series of auditory fields. Each field is separated with 'digital black' thereby framing or bracketing the 'rotted coordinates' - each one a point on a decayed map of a dystopian sound-scape. This release is an admixture of field recordings from around the world, surreal collage techniques and synthetic sounds derived from digital audio tools. 'The Knotted Constellation' allows listeners to lose themselves in the territory and not merely the map of their darkest imagination. With contributions by C. Spencer Yeh (Burning Star Core), Lithuanian sound artist Darius Ciuta and Berlin-based circuit bender Guido Henneböhl among others.

13 years, 5 months

Applying effects when recording electric guitars: before or after recording?

by Roberto Suárez Soto

Hi, I usually try to record electric guitars with minimal effects (i.e., only distortion or a bit of reverb), and later add them in the mixing process. But, though that may make sense recording-wise to achieve a good sound, it's not the same with regards to playing. For example: if I want to know how something sounds with delay, or chorus, or flanger, or whatever, I like to play with it (using my guitar's preamp effects). It's more inspiring to do so, if you know what I mean. So, what do the real pros (that'd be you ;-)) do? My first thought is to "prototype" using the preamp's effects, and once I have a good idea of what I need, record "clean" and apply effects in Ardour. But that sounds like a lot of work; and before doing it, I'd rather ask if there's some shortcut. Thanks in advance. -- Roberto Suárez Soto

13 years, 5 months

Re: [LAU] Issue with Korg Kontrol Editor and Wine

by Ralf Mardorf

> Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:10:29 +0200 > From: Jeremy Jongepier <jeremy(a)autostatic.com> > Subject: Re: [LAU] Issue with Korg Kontrol Editor and Wine > To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org > Message-ID: <4E197A95.8000701(a)autostatic.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 07/10/2011 03:30 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I wonder if the driver is needed. Perhaps wine can be set up to work > > with the Korg Editor, without the MIDI driver. Anyway, currently the > > Editor doesn't recognise the connected Nano Kontrol. > > Hello Ralf, > > What kind of nanoKONTROL are you using? One of the first series or a > newer one? > > Best, > > Jeremy Hi Jeremy, it's the old white Korg nanoKontrol with 9 faders and two buttons beside the faders. I hope you now can recommend an older Editor version, that can be used with wine :)?! There is one version for this old Kontrol only available at http://www.korg.com/SupportResults.aspx?productid=415 Regards, Ralf

13 years, 5 months

Issue with Korg Kontrol Editor and Wine

by Ralf Mardorf

Hi, when I try to install the Korg driver I get "In order to install the driver, you must have an Administration privilege". It also seems to be, that uninstalling the Editor doesn't work. I know that there's a Linux python app for the Korg Kontrol, but I like to test the original Korg app. I don't have Windows or a Mac and need to use Wine. Wine is version 1.0.1-3.1, libwine-alsa is installed. Also installed are q4wine 0.121-1 and winetricks 0.0~20110419+svn493-3. It's not wineasio. The Korg Kontrol Editor is version 1.2.0.22, the driver is DrvTools_e(1.13_r6). When I click 'Wine configuration''s tab Audio, 'Wind configuration' closes. Any hints are welcome. Regards, Ralf

13 years, 5 months

Re: [LAU] Limiters?

by Ralf Mardorf

> Steve Harris has a fast-look-ahead-limiter which is > good. It's very good, but as every limiter also this limiter will ... > i can't say what it does for "california style" mastering ... distort the sound, when misused. > So, if during mastering you are not satisfied with the sound > why on earth would you try to adjust it using complex filtering > and dynamics on the mixed signal ? Just fix it in the mix, where > you have vastly more possibilities by working on separate tracks. Correct, even if somebody should like loudness masterings, the limiter is limited, it can't smooth away mistakes of the mixing. Sometimes I do loudness mixings myself. There's no need for a limiter. The most important tool are EQs for the tracks + a compressor for the stereo sum. If you use a limiter to make it louder, you'll get distortion, clipping like sounds. At some point you can't make it louder. If the meters freeze at 0 dBFS the sound is dead. In Germany we've got an itinerant preacher from Mannheim and 'friends' of him polluting us with dead sound. That's what it's for, preaching and commercials. We can do loudness mixings, but at some limit it's idiotic. Sometimes my loudness mixings are already dead without using a limiter, a multi-band compressor is all you need to do loudness mixings. > Well there can be a thrid reason: You have an overall good sound, but not > the knowledge to keep it, while increasng overall volume and keeping the > overall sound. So lack of information, practise and/or theory. So many people > -at least here - are still hobby musicians. Willing to learn, but you have > other obligations. This is the only reason and that's why several people from the list explain that a limiter can't do voodoo. It's usual that at some point a limiter will cause unwanted 'noise'. Regards, Ralf

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Linux-audio-user July 2011