Hi.
Today I released ZynAddSubFX 2.1.0.
News:
- Added a installer for windows (thanks to
NSIS installer ( http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ ) ).
Both VST and standalone vesions are contained in the
same installer.
- Added a new user interface for beginners.
You can switch the current user interface with that
anytime do you want.
- All parts, effects, etc. are counted from
'1' and not from '0'
- Added the posibility to compile the OSS and
JACK support in the same binary (look in the
Makefile.inc)
- VST host should be able to save all
zynaddsubfx parameters into their setups (this is
untested)
- Bugfixes and other
For those who don't know, ZynAddSubFX is a powerfull
opensource software synthesizer available at
http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net
Enjoy.
Paul
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I'm curious how everybody handles MIDI recording. I find it hard to
believe that everyone records to a straight tempo using the metronome,
only to add ritardandos and accelerandos later in some artificial way
by editing the tempo track. That may work for some kinds of music
(dance music perhaps), but certainly not everyone works that way.In
particular, I'm recording organ music, which is similar to piano music
or indeed almost any classical music in its need for expression.
But if I turn off the metronome and record at a free tempo I find that
the transports and bar information are more or less useless. It makes
it very hard to re-record segments or set up loops, etc. How do you
handle MIDI wrt tempo?
I'm using Rosegarden, but not entrenched yet.
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Has NE1 had any experience setting up Wine midi? I mean, more than seeing that
"midimapper.drv" is uncommented in the config file?
Thanks
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The Road of Life is paved with Squirrels that couldn't make a decision!
I've brought up discussions like this before, but it's been a while
and I'm finding myself at a point of decision again. So please bear
with me. I'd like some advice on what my next step is.
Basically, here's my problem. I love the Linux audio world, but I am
an artist and I really need something that will facilitate making
music. So I'm faced with the following options:
1. Use Ardour and participate in its development.
2. Use Audacity and participate in its development.
3. Use something else and participate in its development.
4. Roll my own.
5. Buy a mac and use Digital Performer or something else.
To examine these options further:
For option 1, Ardour has a lot of features, but seems to lack in
stability and usability. I have to restart ardour/jack several times
during a session because one or the other becomes unresponsive or
flaky. The transport even completely stopped working last time I
used it. I lost 2 - 4 hrs work and have not been able to get it
working again. Granted, I have not tried too hard to receive help
with it, but I just haven't had good luck with its stability yet.
Perhaps, my problem is more with usability than stability. It may be
intuitive to some people to use the middle mouse button or ctl+right
button combinations, but I have a really hard time getting around in
ardour.
Another thing about ardour that makes it hard for me to adopt it
wholeheartedly is the way it is developed. It seems, IMHO, that
Release 1.0 should've come out a long time ago, like after real-time
multitrack recording, editing, and mixing were available. Or maybe
start over, do a refactor, then release when those features are
working again. There's something psychologically limiting (to me)
when a product reaches version 0.9beta19 and still doesn't seem ready
for a "release". To me, that seems to create a culture where things
move very slowly and gives the impression that it will never really
be production-ready. I recognize that there are very differing
opinions on what a "release" actually means in open source. I also
recognize that ardour doesn't have my name on it anywhere so I can't
really complain unless I'm contributing to its development. I'm not
trying to start a war, just to figure out what direction I need to
settle on, so I'll shut up about that.
For option 2, audacity seems to be stable and easy to use. But it
lacks some essential features, like real-time effects processing.
The mezzo thing looks promising, but there doesn't seem to be much
momentum behind it right now.
Is there an option 3? Is there another Linux DAW solution that
provides (or seeks to provide) multitrack recording, real-time
mixing, automation, etc.?
I would typically omit option 4 right off the bat. The open source
culture frowns on reinventing something that already exists. But
there's a few reasons why I'm actually considering this option.
First, the problems I have with ardour and audacity don't seem likely
to change. Please don't misunderstand what I'm about to say. I'm
not trying to offend anyone, but these are just my observations. If
they are incorrect, please correct me. I don't gather that there's
much momentum to build audacity into a real-time professional DAW
solution. And it seems like ardour's development has been in a rut
for a while. Development is happening, and new things are being
added, but the stability and usability doesn't seem to be improving.
So, if I'm trying to build a professionally viable DAW for Linux I
could come to the conclusion that there's not currently a workable
solution. Second, I'm not convinced that "three" DAWs for Linux is an
unhealthy number. Look at how many different commercial solutions
are available -- each one doing things a bit differently and
appealing to a different user base. Maybe if there was another
project with a healthy development cycle, good stability, and
essential features, it would encourage the others to compete and help
push Linux over the edge and into professional viability. There are
other reasons, but things like coding style, object model, or testing
strategy are not valid reasons in and of themselves to start a new
project.
But truthfully, given my limited skillset and other factors, it would
likely be years before a new project was able to compete even with
what's already out there, much less surpass them. So, unless I get
an overwhelming response to this option, I'll probably not consider
it much further.
That brings me to option 5. I've only considered this because I'm
ready to actually spend some money in the interest of making music
instead of twiddling with code and configs. But, I'm not a big fan
of ProTools, Logic, or Cubase. So Digital Performer seems to be my
best option on a mac -- and I really don't know much about DP (my
prior experience is mostly with Sonar and I'm simply not willing to
invest further in a Windows-based platform). So, I'm not certain
that I will be satisfied even if I spend a wad of cash on a Mac and
some DAW software. And of course, this thread of logic implies that
I have some money to throw at it, which, for the time being, is not
the case.
Now, I think I'm something of a poster-child for Linux audio. I'm
enough of a tech-head that I can write some code and diagnose
problems. I can wade through a mass of complex logic and find what I
need (usually). My sessions are few and far between enough that I
can experiment with stuff between them. And they are low-risk enough
(meaning that I don't get paid or get paid very little for them) that
lack of stability is not a huge risk for me -- just a frustration. I
suspect that by the time I get to a point to actually charge real
money for my services something in Linux might be ready for prime
time whether it be ardour, audacity, or something as yet undeveloped.
And I want to contribute financially and/or intellectually to
whatever I end up with.
So, given what little you know of me and what I'm looking for, what
would you suggest? Would you recommend that I start following Ardour
and/or Audactiy with more interest? Is there something else I don't
know about? Have I actually found a need for something new? Or
should I (for the time being) punt and invest in a Mac-based
commercial solution?
If you've gotten this far, thanks for bearing with me. Your help is
greatly appreciated. I know I made some statements that could be
considered controversial. I hope I have not offended anyone and
apologize if I have.
Greg
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I'm attempting to get my musical activities squared away on a new dual
Opteron system. I'm currently running single processor with the (almost
stock) Fedora Core 2 kernel, 2.6.8-1.541.
I have alsa 1.06a (including the tools) installed. I compiled these from
the CCRMA sources.
All the modules appear to be loaded:
snd_seq 80832 0
snd_hdsp 68492 0
snd_rawmidi 30116 1 snd_hdsp
snd_seq_device 9356 2 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm 127116 1 snd_hdsp
snd_timer 36104 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 10760 1 snd_hdsp
snd 70664 7
snd_seq,snd_hdsp,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore 10593 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11024 2 snd_hdsp,snd_pcm
However, I cannot start alsa:
service alsasound start
Starting sound driver snd-hdsp [ OK ]
Starting sequencer [ OK ]
Restoring sound driver settings /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1134: No
soundcards found...
[FAILED]
If I run hdsploader I get either no message, or perhaps a message about
an inability to access a certain memory range. Of course, as I write
this message, I can't seem to get that error up.
'll try and capture that message in a followup, in case this is at all
helpful. Needless to say, I'm hoping someone has a suggestion that will
resolve this.
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>> --- Reuben Martin <MartinR(a)jbu.edu> wrote:
>> > My guess is that devices on sound cards have a default sample rate,
>> > bit rate or some other type of setting and when something accesses
>> > the device and changes one of those settings, it results in that
pop
>> > sound.
>>
>> I didn't think about that. I'll have to check and see if the 1010lt
>> has a default sample rate. The bad news is, if you are right, then
>> driver modifications won't fix the problem.
>
>Not necessarily. The driver can mute the output, change the card
setting, and unmute it again.
I don't think muting the output will change anything if this is truly
the source of the problem. This a matter of changing the digital signal,
and nothing to do with the audio that is within the digital signal.
-Reuben
I have noticed since I switched to the 2.6 kernel tree I have been having troubles with asfxload and sfxload. When I try to launch it hangs.
The program just sits their running and can't be killed. It does not use to many clock cycles but I can't seem to kill it no matter what I do.
I tried killall asfxload and other tricks. I also tried to kill it with kde's process management program but it still did not die. A few times it complained that
/dev/sequencer was not available no such device. I was wondering if there is something I am doing wrong or if I should file a bug report. Anyone else experience
this?
sound card = SB live
Kernel = 2.6.2 (same problem with other versions of 2.6)
asfxload = ver.0.5.0c
launching asfxload by itself complains:
No Emux synth hwdep device is found
so I modprobe snd-hwdep and snd-emux-synth but it still complains
Thanks,
Jeremiah
I am unable to get Hardware monitoring working with my EWS88D card, yet it works perfectly with my Delta 1010LT (they are in the same machine running FC1 CCRMA). I checked the bug list last night on Alsa. I could find nothing for EWS88D or "PCI - ice1712" category related to H/W monitoring. The Alsa soundcard matrix says the EWS88D supports "H/W mixing". Is this the same as H/W monitoring?
At present my theories are:
1. Perhaps there are different variationson the envy24/ice1712 chip and the EWS88D uses one that lacks H/W monitoring.
2. Terratec implementation of the envy24/ice1712 is 'broken'.
3. There is bug in ice1712 driver with regards to the EWS88D
Any assistence ya'll can provide is appreciated.
Regards, Robb
NOTE: While the Alsa sound card matrix for the EWS88D states that "[To] IEC-60958 TOSLINK Output" works for the EWS88D. I can confirm that [Aio] should be added to the notes section. I've got the EWS88D ADAT In and ADAT Out plugged into a Berhinger ADA8000 via Lightpipe. Recording and playback work brilliantly with the ADA8000 set as Master for wordclock purposes. In fact, I will add this to Alsa Mantis system. . . silly me.
Below is detailed information from ALSA, JACK, and ENVY24CONTROL.
ALSA VERSION: rpm -qa |grep alsa:
alsa-driver-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-firmware-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-kernel-2.4.26-1.ll.rhfc1.ccrma-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-lib-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-lib-devel-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-oss-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-tools-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
alsa-utils-1.0.4-1.cvs.rhfc1.ccrma
clalsadrv-1.0.0-1.rhfc1.ccrma
JACK - TERRATEC EWS88D (hw:0) - with hardware monitoring enabled:
====================================================
/usr/bin/jackstart -R -t200 -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2 -H -M
OUTPUT:
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 44100
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|hwmon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
ICE1712?: (0) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (1) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (2) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (3) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (4) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (5) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (6) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
ICE1712?: (7) cannot set input monitoring (No such file or directory)
COMMENT: Hardware monitoring for the ice1712 driver on the EWS88D? seems broken, for lack of a better word.
JACK - M-AUDIO DELTA1010LT (hw:1) - with hardware monitoring enabled:
====================================================
/usr/bin/jackstart -R -t200 -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p1024 -n2 -M -H
OUTPUT:
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 44100
creating alsa driver ... hw:1|hw:1|1024|2|44100|0|0|hwmon|hwmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:1
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
ENVY24CONTROL - EWS88D
====================================================
envy24control -c 0
using --- input_channels: 0
--- output_channels: 0
--- pcm_output_channels: 8
--- spdif in/out channels: 2
Monitor Mixer Tab:
* Digital Mixer
* PCM Out 1 ... PCM Out 8
* H/W In 1 ... H/W In 8 [MISSING]
* S/PDIF In L & S/DIF In R
Patchbay/Router Tab:
* H/W Out 1 ... H/W Out 8 [MISSING]
* S/PDIF Out L & S/PDIF Out R
Hardware Settings Tab:
* Master Clock
* Rate State
* Actual Rate
* Volume Change
* S/PDIF Output Settings
o Consumer
o Professional
Analog Volume [MISSING]
COMMENT: Hardware monitoring envy24control corroberates the lack of hardware monitoring on the EWS88D. No input or output channels, and missing tabs and controls when comparted to DELTA1010LT.
ENVY24CONTROL - DELTA1010LT
====================================================
envy24control -c 1:
using --- input_channels: 8
--- output_channels: 8
--- pcm_output_channels: 8
--- spdif in/out channels: 2
Monitor Mixer Tab:
* Digital Mixer
* PCM Out 1 ... PCM Out 8
* H/W In 1 ... H/W In 8
* S/PDIF In L & S/DIF In R
Patchbay/Router Tab:
* H/W Out 1 ... H/W Out 8
* S/PDIF Out L & S/PDIF Out R
Hardware Settings Tab:
* Master Clock
* Rate State
* Actual Rate
* Volume Change
* S/PDIF Output Settings
o Consumer
o Professional
Analog Volume Tab:
* DAC 1 ... DAC 8
* ADC 1 ... ADC 8
* IPGA 1 .... IPGA 8
Hello all!
Just wanted to share with all of you the great news I received today.
Apparently my 2-quarter class on Linux & Multimedia has been approved by the
Composition, Theory, and Musicology Department at the College-Conservatory
of Music, University of Cincinnati, so I will be returning as an Adjunct
faculty to teach the course there. Yay! :-)
The reason why I find this to be so important (and I hope that you will
agree with me) is because the students are the ones who will be making
important choices of tomorrow, including the choice of OS for the music
and/or academic studios. This way, they will have an opportunity to be
exposed to Linux and therefore more likely to embrace it down the road (as
opposed to not knowing about it at all and thinking that there is nothing
beyond Pro Tools), especially considering that Linux in many ways portrays
the true freedom of the free society. Furthermore, their compositions that
will be made with the help of Linux during the course of this class will
likely further enhance the importance and strength of Linux as the
multimedia platform, suggesting that Linux not only offers competitive
software versatility and stellar performance, but also the much needed
flexibility that does not encumber the flow of artistic thought.
At any rate, just wanted to share with you the good news I got today ;-)
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, composer & multimedia sculptor
http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/
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