The free sampled piano is here:
http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html (click on the Piano link)
It is quite large, abot 1.5GB (each note sampled individually in 3
velocities: pp, mf, ff).
I do not know how good the quality of this piano is, Steve Harris
hacked together a small player and posted some mp3s that were rendered
from a MIDI file driving his application.
To me it does not sound that great, perhaps you need to tune
the velocity splits to make it sound well.
Anyway this sampleset is really large and can hardly fit into RAM.
SF2 was not created to be streamed from disk thus I suggest the following.
We of the linuxsampler team made significant progress in .GIG playback
thanks to the wonderful work done by Christian S.
He actually wrote libgig which is able to parse and load .GIG file
supporting all the articulation stuff (layering, key/velocity switching,
dimensions etc).
see our new webpage (thanks Marek ;-) )
http://www.linuxsampler.org
(the new code is not online yet, because Christian and I are fixing bugs
and optimizing the streaming).
I cannot make forecasts when full GIG playback will be done, but shortly
(1-2 weeks) we will release a version that can play back the samples
(without effects, and envelopes for now).
This means we will soon be able to play the MIS piano directly streamed
from disk using LinuxSampler.
So the advice to Atti and others is:
One of you should use a Windows app which allows you to create .GIG
files (with GigaStudio being the natural choice), download the MIS
samples, tune volume, velocity-splits, trim samples (some samples have a
bit of silence at the beginning etc) and make a .GIG file out of it.
After the piano sounds good in GigaStudio you should post it online.
That way as soon as LinuxSampler is ready (the piano sample does not
require filters, envelopes etc) we can release a truly free
Grandpiano in software (samples + player).
To compare how well the MIS piano .GIG you will create ,sounds I suggest
you to use this page:
http://www.af.lu.se/~fogwall/piano.html
On that page you find a classical music midi file
Fantaisie-Impromptu (Chopin)
and the corresponding audio clips rendered with various
digital pianos, hardware expanders and software samples
(including VST The Grand, various multi-Gigabyte piano samples for
Gigasampler etc).
Not sure about the quality we can achieve, for example the MIS piano
does not include pedal down samples.
IANAPP (I am not a piano player) so I do not know if this is a big
disadvantage that makes it sound unprofessional.
Worth a try anyway.
What do you think ?
cheers,
Benno
>> * sample the grandpiano of the latest Roland/Korg/Yamaha electric >piano
>> * give the sample away
>> * package it (sf2) and put it on my web site
>>
> if you are prepared to go through all the pain of trimming and looping
> zillions of samples, why not do the real thing ?
> there is a raw set of steinway grand samples floating around on the net
> somewhere (was even announced to this list iirc), and i think it's even
> an anechoic recording.
> the license was something along the lines of "free for the taking".
Hi,
isn't this a linux list? ;-)
Try Winamp 2.x, the newer versions have included
ogg support and there is a plug-in for the older
verions.
Winamp 3.x is crap.
Regards,
Joachim
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht@controlnet.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 16:07
An: Linux-Audio-User
Betreff: [linux-audio-user] ogg player for Windows?
Hi,
Windows Media Player doesn't handle ogg files. Is there a Windows app
that would allow my to listen to ogg files?
(That other hijacked thread has an ogg link, but I couldn't bear to
hijack the thread in yet another direction!) ;-)
Thanks,
Mark
I'm trying to get BruteFIR operating in realtime on my 2496. Currently, however, it fails with the following output:
ALSA I/O: Could not set audio input parameters for "maudio":
Failed to set channel count to 2: Invalid argument.
Failed to init input device.
Failed to initialise digital audio interfaces.
I get the same message regardless of whether I use the "maudio" pcm defined in my .asoundrc, or "hw", or "hw:0". I've tried setting channels to 8/0,1 on input, 10/0,1 on output, also with no effect.
My input and output settings for BruteFIR are as follows:
input "left input", "right input" {
device: "alsa" { param: "maudio"; };
sample: "S32_LE";
channels: 2;
};
output "left output", "right output" {
device: "alsa" { param: "maudio"; };
sample: "S32_LE";
channels: 2;
};
And my .asoundrc looks like this:
pcm.maudio {
type hw;
card 0;
device 0;
}
ctl.maudio {
type hw;
card 0;
}
pcm.spdif_cap {
type plug;
ttable.0.8 1;
ttable.1.9 1;
slave.pcm {
type hw;
card 0;
device 0;
}
}
I'm running the 2.6.0-test5 kernel, and therefore using the ALSA version included.
I'd welcome any suggestions :)
|)
|)enji
> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht@controlnet.com]
> >
> > >> We have that whole rock/blues and jazz legacy to deal with as well {as
> > >opposed> to the watered down, imitative stuff that comes from
> > that side of the
> > >pond.} The> American public has come to value things like depth
> > and quality and
> > >a certain> "earthiness" that you just don't get with "Eurodisco."
> > >
> > >This statement in a week when the Top 10, for the first time in History,
> > >was completely comprised of all Black artists. Yes, our charts, and
> > >apparently our brethren, have gone a different direction.
> >
> > I'm not quite sure what this means.
> >
> > >> {Tho' you really couldn't tell it by looking at our charts. ... A few
> > >minutes> on the streets or in some of our backwoods clubs would
> > convince you.}
>
> Sorry. Not clear. I listen a lot to jazz fusion, like John Scofield or John
> McLaughlin, or then a lot of prog rock stuff like Spock's Beard or
Sorry.
> Conspiracy. None of this is represented on the radio today, really. (In
> reference to your "that whole rock/blues and jazz legacy" comment, which I
> agree with.)
I meant "core" stuff... like old-school jazz, blues, country... "real" rock ...even classical.
Are you seeing "legacy" as bad? ...Somehow limiting?
> My unintelligible comment about black artists was only that this week
> everything on the radio is hip hop, rap or what passes taday as R&B, even
> though I have a hard time equatig Beyonce Knowles, no matter how good
> looking or talented she is, with R&B. Nothing on commercially driven radio
> around her has anythign to do with, again, "that whole rock/blues and jazz
> legacy".
:} Not at all. I haven't believed the label "R&B" since around the end of the original Motown sound.
I tend to wonder why folk reference past movements that way. {Like Billy Ray Cyrus, or whoever happens to be todays twang pop superstar, calling themselves a "country" singer or whatever...}
> I hope this helps explain my point of view a bit, even if it is out of
> touch.
:} Not really... These days I think it might be the ideations of the producer that matters. It would seem that some sort of late seventies nostalgia has grasped us by the sensibilities in the past few years.
Maybe it's a pre-revolutionary sphincter convulsion sort of thing... maybe it's the result of some secretive neo-conservative underground... who knows?
> From: dwillis(a)stx.rr.com [mailto:dwillis@stx.rr.com]
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, iriXx wrote:
>
> > you will have a certain element of copyright in your mechanical
> > recording of the piano, but the copyright in the sample still belongs to
> > korg/roland/yamaha etc, who are likely to be quite protective of them.
>
> then, wouldn't they mention it somewhere? especially on a new piece of
> equipment considering all the software and dvd issues these days?
> my microKORG manual, and the unit itself, says nothing. only the manual
> itself has a copyright. i don't remember any restrictions on my sy85,
> either (but it's in the states, and i'm in korea).
The idea of copyrighting a single note strikes me as a bit strange.
Maybe it applies to the library as a whole?
{I've no idea.}
> From: Greg Reddin [mailto:gtreddin@yahoo.com]
> So it might not ever be palatable to the masses because it's too
> innovative. It's the same reason why Creed will always sell more
> tickets than Dream Theater, but I will always listen to DT more than
> I will Creed. Creativity vs. following trends. Have I totally
> missed the point?
>
> OTOH, the tools, like the music needs to be commercially viable, at
> least for those who choose to make their living off of it. And I
> think it could be and someday will be. It would be a shame for all
> this cool innovation to only be accessible to programmers --
> especially since many of the developers are going out of their way to
> make it accessible to non-programmers.
Music hasn't always had to be formula to make it. The 'net's made major changes in the public's tastes in the past decade or so {at it was until it got "bought".}
It's not that hard to imagine a future that enables non pop music.
{I'm not sure that "commercial" requires "Pro-Tools" anyway.}
Hi,
Windows Media Player doesn't handle ogg files. Is there a Windows app
that would allow my to listen to ogg files?
(That other hijacked thread has an ogg link, but I couldn't bear to
hijack the thread in yet another direction!) ;-)
Thanks,
Mark
Hi all,
Short question:
I'm thinking of moving up to Sarge from Woody. I know DeMuDi works with Sid.
Does anyone know anything about testing (sarge) that would break the DeMuDi
packages?
TIA
tim hall
Hi all,
With the profusion of good, legal, lossless, and free .flac files
floating around the net, I was looking for a good way to burn sets of
them to CD. The only burner I have on my system at the moment is
GnomeToaster, so I set about doing it. I hear that Arson for KDE can do
it, and maybe K3B can to. I have a feeling that if I set my mind to it
I could write a script to do this, but Gnometoaster is pretty nice.
Perhaps more industrious folks will use the ideas to do on the fly DAO
in other burners.
The instructions are here:
http://nutation.net/blog/2003/10/14#flac2cd
If those instructions work for you, you should be creating gapless CDs
from FLACs in addition to whatever other audio files you have in an easy
manner.
Feel free to respond to me and/or the list if you have any questions.
-Rich