On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Ross Hamblin wrote:
> On 01/06/14 03:15, Len Ovens wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 May 2014, Harry van Haaren wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to see NSM be used as "the session management" system,
>>> and I've
>>
>> It would help if it managed to get packaged in debian (and other
>> formats). There is a debian bug for this (Bug#681576) which includes the
>> whole non series of stuff. It doesn't seem to have moved since 2012.
>> Without packages it is unlikely that NSM will be "the" system. I, for
>> one, hope someone (who knows what they are doing) will do the
>> packaging... There is a whole group of people who will not use things
>> till that happens.
>>
>> This is not meant to be fault finding (there is no fault to find), just
>> pointing out reality.
>
> Not sure if this is any help but the non- suite including NSM is
> available through kxstudio repos.
> It is working well here in Ubuntu Studio.
Yes, I am aware of the kxstudio PPAs and have in the past downloaded the
non-apps from there. One of the problems I have had with doing that, is
that the depends all point back to the same PPA set. This meant that
almost my whole audio setup was replaced including jackd and some of the
other session management tools. In fact one of them autostarted for me not
when I started Jackd, but when I started one of the jack based
applications.
I am not sure this is a bad thing of itself for the end user, but for me
this is not an option as I try to help people with UbuntuStudio set their
system up and it helps if I can shadow what they are doing with the same
versions of application. I also do not know what the current set of
kxstudio apps are like. They may have changed and my comments may well be
out of date. Generally good quality stuff anyway.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
It seems a recent 'emerge --sync' is wanting to downgrade my Jack...or
is it?
It looks like some dependency of FluidSynth is steering me toward the
Jack package included in main Gentoo, version 0.121.3-r1, and trying to
remove my 1.9.9.5-r1 package from Pro-Audio overlay.
However, I know there are some differences in numbering scheme for Jack
depending on whether it's the SMP or non-SMP supporting version, and
also there's the DBus versus daemon thing. My current Jack (before
emerging) is SMP with DBus (it can be controlled with the jack_control
comamnd).
Should I be concerned about this? What correlation does 0.121.3 from
main Portage have to 1.9.9.5 in the Pro-Audio overlay, and is this
really a downgrade?
ebuild UD~] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.121.3-r1::gentoo
[1.9.9.5-r1::proaudio] USE="3dnow%* alsa mmx%* oss%* pam%*(-mixed%)"
ABI_X86="(64%*) -32% (-x32)" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="(-python2_7%*)"
PYTHON_TARGETS="(-python2_7%*)" 1,059 kB
[...]
WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency
conflict:
media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit:0
(media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.9.5-r1::proaudio, ebuild
scheduled for merge) conflicts with
media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit[abi_x86_64(-)] required by
(media-sound/fluidsynth-1.1.6-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
[...]
village:~# equery list -o -p jack-audio-connection-kit
* Searching for jack-audio-connection-kit ...
[--O] [ ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.121.3:0
[--O] [ ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.121.3-r1:0
[--O] [M ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.121.3-r2:0
[I-O] [ ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.9.5-r1:0
[--O] [M ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.9.5-r2:0
[--O] [ -] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9999:0
[--O] [M-] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9999-r1:0
[--O] [ -] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-2.9999:0
[--O] [M-] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-2.9999-r1:0
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Hi folks,
This is a bit OT, but I'm planning to visit Italy in late June of this
year (probably just Rome) and was wondering if anyone has suggestions
for concerts/workshops/conferences/exhibitions/installations that have
something to do with experimental music, if there is a Linux twist
that is even better.
Also, I can offer my meagre skills of live poetry reading mixed with
live electronics, if there are any venues for that sort of thing that
are interested in attracting amateur performances. The nature of it
would be something like this:
http://integer0.users.sourceforge.net/pages/processed-poetry.html
Please pardon the shameless plug.
Feel free to message me off-list, or if it is of general interest of
course we can have the discussion on LAU.
Many thanks.
Hi all,
I am very new to Jack and Linux audio in general, so I
apologize if my questions are silly. I own a POD HD300, and I would like
to use it as a sound card to loopback my guitar sound in the computer
speakers...recording would also be nice. The POD gets appropriately
recognized by the system and its device driver functions properly. In
fact, I can hear sound using Pulse, of course with huge latency. I would
like to use Jack for this (already properly installed and set it up for
real time scheduling).
I have configured Jack from QJackCtl such that
the interface I am using is my POD (interface box in the Setup window -
interface which is different than the one used in Pulse). Now, I cannot
really go on. I guess I have two options to loop my sound back to the
speakers (and please correct me if I am wrong): (1) specifying the input
and output device in the Setup window appropriately; (2) specifying a
proper connection in the Connections window.
Option 1. The Input Device
and Output Device scroll down list in the setup window are only usable
if I select Duplex in the Audio scroll down list. And, in any case, they
only list the audio cards of my PC, not the speakers. I guess, this is
not the right way then. However I have some questions: what are the
Input and Output device scroll down lists good for? And why can they
only be used with duplex?
Option 2. The POD appears only in the ALSA
tab of the Connection window. Therefore I cannot connect it to loopback,
which instead appears in the Audio tab. How can I proceed? And, in
general, what is the difference between the three tabs Audio, Midi, and
ALSA? Why don't I get the POD in the Audio tab as a USB sound
card?
Thanks a lot for helping
Best
Cristiano
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I'm running PulseAudio on top of Jack and I'm satisfied with the
experience
http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/PulseOnJack
One exception is that i need to restart PulseAudio (pulseaudio -k) and
the application using it (for ex. Chromium or Firefox) after every
suspend. Is there a way to solve this little annoyance?
m.
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Hi,
>
> I recently moved to a new flat, and I've just got my studio properly setup
> in one of the rooms.
>
Congrats! I hope we get a lot of your beautiful music out of this room:)
> Problem is, the room is rather horrible acoustically. As this is the room
> I've got to play with, I'm going to have to make the best of it
> acoustically.
>
> So, my question is about DIY acoustic absorbers. I'm most likely looking
> to build absorbers both for mid/hi-end (I'm thinking the classical rock
> wool ones you place spaced out a bit form the walls) and for the lower end,
> but I am very much open for suggestions. Here's some specs of my setup:
>
> - The room is roughly 3.60m wide, 3.40m long and 2.50m high. I think at
> least one wall is concrete.
>
As first step I would consider to mix facing the narrow side of the room
Plus always keep everything nice and symmetric.
Also I would recommend to measure the room to see what problems you're
dealing with. http://www.roomeqwizard.com/ is available for Linux AFAIK.
- My mixing position/monitors is in the middle of the front wall. I sit
> about 1.20m out from the wall.
>
Have you heard about the 38% rule? If not read up on this
http://realtraps.com/art_room-setup.htm, also covers early reflection
points.
> - My monitors are small, a set of Adam A3X (so 3" elements I guess). It
> basically gives very low bass response, so I can hear fairly OK down to
> about 80hz, rapidly declining down to 60hz where there's nothing left.
>
Less low energy buildup, but as you mentioned you won't know whats down
there so I would recommend you to treat for lower frequencies in case you
upgrade your speakers in the future.
> - I am not terribly dependent on mixing at high volumes, if that matters.
>
It matters a bit as there is less energy to be absorbed, but again I would
treat properly just in case you want to listen with higher SPL's, so it
doesn't totally change the EQ of your mix (anyway it will change with sound
pressure level because of equal loudness
contour<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour>)
>
> What I currently have is:
> - Two large bookshelves along the wall right behind my mixing position
> acting as diffusors. These go almost all the way up to the ceiling, and has
> stuff unevenly stacked at different heights/positions in the bookshelf.
> They cover 1.60m in the middle of the back wall.
>
I've got good experience with bookshelves in homestudios, given they aren't
to close behind the listening position.
> - I also have a fairly large carpet on the floor in the middle of the
> room. It probably doesn't do that much, but maybe it does a little.
>
It does a little in preventing flutter echo of high frequencies.
>
> My question then is; are there any effective ways of acoustically treating
> this room? Of course, given the topic of the e-mail, I'm very much willing
> to do my own DIY solutions, if that's a viable option. What I have been
> thinking is doing what I mention above; classical absorber "panels", and
> bass traps.
>
I would treat the corners and early reflection points first.
In a homestudio of a friend we filled the corners with rockwool made a
wooden frame and covered them with fabric.
Early reflection points can be treated with 10-15cm thick "classical
absorber panels".
For our live room we've done something else, we made wooden slat covered
frames and filled the cavity with rockwool .
I like what it does to the room as it doesn't make it dead but tames the
response quite nicely.
> But, before I start anything, I'd very much like input from people who
> actually know what they're talking about (I'm looking at you on this list
> ;) ). So, does anyone have thoughts/suggestions for me? Any recommended way
> of doing this?
>
> Thank you very much for any help and any replies!
>
Best of luck!
Moshe
Hi!
I recently moved to a new flat, and I've just got my studio properly setup
in one of the rooms. Problem is, the room is rather horrible acoustically.
As this is the room I've got to play with, I'm going to have to make the
best of it acoustically.
So, my question is about DIY acoustic absorbers. I'm most likely looking to
build absorbers both for mid/hi-end (I'm thinking the classical rock wool
ones you place spaced out a bit form the walls) and for the lower end, but
I am very much open for suggestions. Here's some specs of my setup:
- The room is roughly 3.60m wide, 3.40m long and 2.50m high. I think at
least one wall is concrete.
- My mixing position/monitors is in the middle of the front wall. I sit
about 1.20m out from the wall.
- My monitors are small, a set of Adam A3X (so 3" elements I guess). It
basically gives very low bass response, so I can hear fairly OK down to
about 80hz, rapidly declining down to 60hz where there's nothing left.
- I am not terribly dependent on mixing at high volumes, if that matters.
What I currently have is:
- Two large bookshelves along the wall right behind my mixing position
acting as diffusors. These go almost all the way up to the ceiling, and has
stuff unevenly stacked at different heights/positions in the bookshelf.
They cover 1.60m in the middle of the back wall.
- I also have a fairly large carpet on the floor in the middle of the room.
It probably doesn't do that much, but maybe it does a little.
My question then is; are there any effective ways of acoustically treating
this room? Of course, given the topic of the e-mail, I'm very much willing
to do my own DIY solutions, if that's a viable option. What I have been
thinking is doing what I mention above; classical absorber "panels", and
bass traps.
But, before I start anything, I'd very much like input from people who
actually know what they're talking about (I'm looking at you on this list
;) ). So, does anyone have thoughts/suggestions for me? Any recommended way
of doing this?
Thank you very much for any help and any replies!
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On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Gabriel Nordeborn <gabbe.nord(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> So, my question is about DIY acoustic absorbers. I'm most likely looking to
> build absorbers both for mid/hi-end (I'm thinking the classical rock wool
> ones you place spaced out a bit form the walls) and for the lower end, but I
> am very much open for suggestions. Here's some specs of my setup:
I built some DIY floating panels suspended from the ceiling of my
living room (to improve the acoustic environment in the TV/music/couch
area). That part of the room is about 3.60m wide, 4.60m long and 2.60m
high, so the dimensions are not too far off from yours. Maybe you'll
find some of this useful/inspirational:
I ended up building two big panels. each 3.00m x 1.20m. Each big panel
is made from 5 smaller Troldtekt (http://www.troldtekt.com/) 1.2x0.6m
acoustic panels. I went for the "Troldtekt Plus 75mm" variety, which
consists of a 35mm thick layer of "wood wool" backed by a 40mm layer
of mineral wool.
The big panels are suspended ~0.25m from the (concrete) ceiling, by
screw-in hooks and metal wires. Leaving some room behind the panels
(as opposed to mounting them flush against the ceiling) improves
absorption towards lower frequencies, and I still have ample height
(~2.30m) below the panels. Also: suspending with wires means that I
have the option of (re)moving the panels, leaving only 2 x 4 small
holes to be spackled+painted.
Some old, crappy pics from my phone here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xt2r8idaiqvhlld/AAD41vpxFRbDif_88uWk62Uva#/
Your usage (home studio as opposed to living room) means you'll likely
need much more acoustic treatment than me.However, tackling the
ceiling first, allows you to improve things a lot without giving up
any "horizontal" space...
...Johan
--
Johan Herland, <jherland(a)gmail.com>
www.herland.net
Hi all,
I've uploaded a new iso of "io GNU/Linux", a LiveDVD/USB focused on multimedia
(Debian based).
Kernel 3.14.4 (64-bit only, 32-bit to come), Jack2 as default sound server,
e18 as desktop environment and more nice stuff...
For more infos: packages list, screenshots, video, howto etc... Please visit:
-> http://manu.kebab.free.fr/iognulinux.html
-> https://sourceforge.net/projects/io-gnu-linux/
Enjoy :)
MK
Hi, I've just touched this synth and is famous! Thanks to developers.
I 've foud three bugs:
- MIDI CC message to control pitch does the effect but knob is not rotating
(when changing other parameters via MIDI CC the sliders & knobs are
changing their positions correctly)
- MIDI CC 127 -> segfault
- MIDI CC for 2 1/3' register does not exists ?
thats all. sound is fantastic !!!
cheers
fero
