26 Oct
2010
26 Oct
'10
8:25 p.m.
I have a project coming up to compose some music for a video game I'm
making. I want to keep costs low everywhere except for sample libraries.
Given my past experience I'd like to overspend there a bit. I'm really
impressed with how Sonivox samples sound and I'd prefer to do my sequencing
and mixing with open source tools.
I'm shooting for a tween bubble gum sound hoping to appeal to the "likes
iCarly" crowd. I'm interested in opinions/pointers to the sequencer, audio
effects, and any experiences people have had with sample libraries,
particularly Sonivox. I'm comforable with Ardour although I have doubts
about my actual mixing skills.
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Darrin
26 Oct
26 Oct
8:43 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Darrin Thompson <darrinth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have a project coming up to compose some music for a
video game I'm
making. I want to keep costs low everywhere except for sample libraries.
Given my past experience I'd like to overspend there a bit. I'm really
impressed with how Sonivox samples sound and I'd prefer to do my sequencing
and mixing with open source tools.
I'm shooting for a tween bubble gum sound hoping to appeal to the "likes
iCarly" crowd. I'm interested in opinions/pointers to the sequencer, audio
effects, and any experiences people have had with sample libraries,
particularly Sonivox. I'm comforable with Ardour although I have doubts
about my actual mixing skills.
I'm not familiar with Sonivox but I use high-end samples on an almost
daily basis (EWQL, Kontakt, etc). They are all Windows based sample
libraries, however, and I host them using Reaper x64 on a Windows 7
box, and do all of my sequencing and mixing with Rosegarden and Ardour
respectively, on Linux, of course, using QMidiNet/ipMIDI between the
two machines.
What sample engine are you using?
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
10:29 p.m.
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:43:33 -0400
Brett McCoy <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Darrin Thompson
<darrinth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
The windows box solution, is probably the easiest way to work
with expensive sample collections, but I have to say that sequencing
and sampling on the same linux box is a challenging and instructive
experiment worth to try.
I spent a lot of time to convert huge .nks files (kontakt) to gigastudio
instruments, so that I could use them in LinuxSampler, but now i can
tweak every single parameter and, more important, on a single linux
system.
The software chain I use:
Qtractor(sequence)->
->LinuxSampler->
->Qtractor(mixer + effect plugins)->
->audio output/ardour recording
performance are excellent, i can sequence an entire symphonic orchestra
even on a netbook, it seems much lighter than kontakt on windows.
Ciao!
--
Asa Marco <marcoasa90(a)gmail.com> 朝
I have a project coming up to compose some music
for a video game I'm
making. I want to keep costs low everywhere except for sample
libraries. Given my past experience I'd like to overspend there a
bit. I'm really impressed with how Sonivox samples sound and I'd
prefer to do my sequencing and mixing with open source tools.
I'm shooting for a tween bubble gum sound hoping to appeal to the
"likes iCarly" crowd. I'm interested in opinions/pointers to the
sequencer, audio effects, and any experiences people have had with
sample libraries, particularly Sonivox. I'm comforable with Ardour
although I have doubts about my actual mixing skills.
I'm not familiar with Sonivox but I use high-end samples on an almost
daily basis (EWQL, Kontakt, etc). They are all Windows based sample
libraries, however, and I host them using Reaper x64 on a Windows 7
box, and do all of my sequencing and mixing with Rosegarden and Ardour
respectively, on Linux, of course, using QMidiNet/ipMIDI between the
two machines.
What sample engine are you using?
10:38 p.m.
Hi Marco,
2010/10/26 Marco Asa <aesir.ml(a)gmail.com>om>:
I spent a lot of time to convert huge .nks files
(kontakt) to gigastudio
instruments,
Interesting! How would one go about doing that?
so that I could use them in LinuxSampler, but now i
can
tweak every single parameter and, more important, on a single linux
system.
Regards,
Robert
11:30 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Marco Asa <aesir.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The windows box solution, is probably the easiest way
to work
with expensive sample collections, but I have to say that sequencing
and sampling on the same linux box is a challenging and instructive
experiment worth to try.
I spent a lot of time to convert huge .nks files (kontakt) to gigastudio
instruments, so that I could use them in LinuxSampler, but now i can
tweak every single parameter and, more important, on a single linux
system.
I'd love to do that but time constraints (and the fact my Windows box
is a lot beefier than my Linux box) prevents me from doing that.
Regardless, I'd like to hear details on how you converted your Kontakt
libraries for use with LinuxSampler.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
27 Oct
27 Oct
7:58 a.m.
tisdag 26 oktober 2010 22.34.18 skrev Marco Asa:
I spent a lot of time to convert huge .nks files
(kontakt) to gigastudio
instruments, so that I could use them in LinuxSampler, but now i can
tweak every single parameter and, more important, on a single linux
system.
I spent some weeks alone in a cottage in the wood almost two years ago
converting Natural Drum Kit (NDK) to Gigastudio format (an in mono and
recreating the kits) in a less elegant way: I extracted every sample - every
one of them are in stereo and all the kits are pre mixed/panned - and splitted
them to two mono samples and picked up the mono sample I liked best. With a
total of over 20 000 samples, this was a lot of work!
So now, I use the samples as from a real recording: Every drum Item have its
own channel and recorded in mono. A very big job, but it was worth it. To be
honest, I have only recreated two of NDK's kits but are working now with the
rest of them. The system is like this: Hats in one gig file, toms in another
and so on.
Jostein
26 Oct
26 Oct
11:48 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Brett McCoy <idragosani(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not familiar with Sonivox but I use high-end
samples on an almost
daily basis (EWQL, Kontakt, etc). They are all Windows based sample
libraries, however, and I host them using Reaper x64 on a Windows 7
box, and do all of my sequencing and mixing with Rosegarden and Ardour
respectively, on Linux, of course, using QMidiNet/ipMIDI between the
two machines.
I didn't imagine that MIDI over ip would have good enough latency for
getting work done. Pardon my ignorance but are you sending back the sampler
playback via ip too?
What sample engine are you using?
I was hoping to get away with LinuxSampler but your whole ipMIDI thing
intrigues. One thing I liked about Sonivox libraries were the available
DVI's with included effects which I assume are better for their bundled
instrument than what I could find on my own.
(I don't have a good Windows box handy but I do have an 18 month old
iMac that should work well.)
So should I imagine a universe where I run Sonivox cutesey DVIs on OSX and
yank the audio back to Jack on Linux but not notice the latency?
--
Darrin
27 Oct
27 Oct
12:02 a.m.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Darrin Thompson <darrinth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't imagine that MIDI over ip would have good
enough latency for
getting work done. Pardon my ignorance but are you sending back the sampler
playback via ip too?
Much better latency than serial MIDI... it's very fast over gigabit
ethernet. Audio is sent back via S/PDIF. Everything is synched to the
same MIDI clock anyway, and I'm not recording live audio at the same
time, so latency doesn't matter in this case.
I was hoping to get away with LinuxSampler but your
whole ipMIDI thing
intrigues. One thing I liked about Sonivox libraries were the available
DVI's with included effects which I assume are better for their bundled
instrument than what I could find on my own.
I tend to record my samples dry and add reverb, EQ, etc, in the mixing stage.
(I don't have a good Windows box handy but I do
have an 18 month old
iMac that should work well.)
So should I imagine a universe where I run Sonivox cutesey DVIs on OSX and
yank the audio back to Jack on Linux but not notice the latency?
There's also netjack, but it's a bit more complex to setup between
Windows and Linux, whereas QMidiNet -> ipMIDI is relatively painless.
Of course, I can't record more than one track at a time until I can
upgrade my Windows audio interface to use ADAT or similar (I have an
RME Multiface on Linux, it can support 8 analog inputs also, but on
Windows I am using a M-Audio FireWire solo and it only has 2 outputs.
Netjack would allow multiple channels of audio back over the ip
interface, however, but I haven't gotten that far yet.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com
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it would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
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