Linux-audio-user December 2004

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by David Baron

>This is being offered gratis till the end of december by Mackie. This one might just be coaxed into running under Wine which would be quite an achievement. >Kudos: 1. The program, though free, needs be registered to a "machine number". Did this under Windows, did not get that far using Wine. Might need a second copy just for the Linux runs. >2. The program searches for all its own VST dlls and any on the VST directory. Might have problems doing this in Wine. Some VST demos bring up an error box saying please register, limited trial, etc. Such things may be disruptive in Wine. (Other VST hosts let you manually find them when you want them, avoiding this problem in most cases) >Anyway, the thing appeared to hang up but I was able to get out. No crash, no bebug offer. Clean. The main problem is that any UI pop-up, i.e. to choose files, etc., does not come up visibly. This is the apparent hangup. Alt-F4 dismisses the invisible dialog box. It audio output device is listed as "direct sound" (under Windows, the card's ASIO drivers would be listed). But .. one would not get anywhere near this far with Sonar.

19 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] (OSS vs. RME) vs. (OSS + RME) [slightly OT]

by thewade

> Correct me if I\'m wrong here ... but ... lack of supported hardware is > part of the reason people don\'t migrate to *nix operating systems; and > another is the frightening complexity involved in doing anything with > *nix which the OS and its software inherits from the relatively small, > disorganized, underfunded community. Minor correction: More hardware is supported in linux then in windows/mac as far as I can tell. For example when I bought my 64 bit laptop there was already a kernel and it took about 1 month to get most of the devices working: one exception - Ralink rt2500 (just recently because of GPL release of drivers). Everything else basically works. My Webcam doesnt work because the driver was pulled from the linux kernel because of no full GPL compliance. http://www.aproximation.org/application/AMD64laptop.html You are correct about the problem with complexity of setup and operation. One problem with Windows/Mac; if you make the interface simple to use the user of the computer becomes simple as a consequence. If you know about your hardware, are forced to learn, then you know something and are wiser. People are generally either lazy or too busy for linux. Fedora core rom the default install could do many of the things *most* people do with their computer though. Word process, web surf, instant message, print, email. Its just the hardcore people like us that find and overcome the difficulty because of the power it offers. Finally to address your issue about RME: It sounds like a short term solution. Sure they release drivers, it works now. What happens when something new comes along and thoes drivers need to be rewritten or modified? You have to wait for RME to get around to fixing it, and who knows what the quality of their solution would be? We would be sacrificing that power we gain from having a worldwide distribution of coders pouring over the code and constantly evolving it. My 2 cents, -thewade

19 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-user] Fervent Software, "Studio to Go"

by Rob

Has anyone heard of Fervent Software? They were listed on Newsvac today for releasing a commercial bootable Linux CD with a bunch of audio/MIDI software. I have no idea what the level of integration is or what you get for your UKP50 besides a bunch of preconfigured free software, but I'm still impressed and hope to see it on a shelf somewhere someday. http://www.ferventsoftware.com I'd love to see something like this take off, though I also thought a CD like this was one of the design goals of Demudi back in the day. Rob

19 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-user] Linux found to have less than 1% of the "normal" occurrence of bugs

by Cornell III, Howard M

http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=55301858

19 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-user] Fervent Software Studio..to go! and GPL issues

by Christian Frisson

Hi, I suppose Richard Bown is the head of both Fervent Software and Linux Musician. I guess he has suscribed to the LAD mailing-list. I thought the GPL-license claimed you had the right to commercialize apps released under its terms if you make its modified source code available to anyone. Where am I wrong? What is the difference between this case and the "hi-jacked" Audacity versions that used to be sold on eBay under another app name? Cheers, Christian

19 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-user] Jackd and AMD64 linux-2.6.10-rc2-mm1 XRUNS

by thewade

I tried to build 2.6.10-rc3-mm1-V0.7.33-04 hoping the errors I was having before would be fixed and indeed it seemed they were, but new errors rose in their place. Lee, could you please forward this to Ingo and the lkml? I would subscribe to the lkml list, but section 3 of the FAQ\'s scared me away... Thanks! -thewade My kernel .config: http://www.aproximation.org/application/kernel.config-2.6.10-rc3-mm1-V0.7.3… My Make Errors: http://www.aproximation.org/application/makeerrors.txt My Machine: AMD64 laptop currently running 2.6.10-rc2-mm1 x86_64 Fedora Core 3 test 1 gcc-3.4.1-2

19 years, 5 months

OT - was Re: [linux-audio-user] Fervent Software Studio..to go! and GPL issues

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:43 , Christian Frisson <theremin(a)free.fr> sent: >Re-, > >I hope you didn't take my words as a raw piece of judgement. I just don't get >all the read-between-the-lines of the GPL license, because I've only browsed it >so far, not read carefully. So will you / are you compelled, under the GPL >terms, to make the source code of your distro available, for even those who >haven't bought a license, for example on a server, instead of bundled on the >recorded medium? (I'm quite happy with Fedora Core 1 / Planet CCRMA, I'm not >searching for a free sneak!) > >For my future experiments, what if I want my piece of software to be released >opensource, but I don't want other people to make dirty money (all that's >remaining after sales, packaging, shipment and survival expenses) out of it: >which license should I choose? Say that this piece of software is to be >considered as a third-party of hardware devices, and I want anyone but >concurrent firms stealing that work to be happy with it! I'm on my last year of >engineering degree, nearly the time to switch to the real world! I like the >Neuros (http://open.neurosaudio.com/\) way, schematics and software made public; >but I don't want to be crooked, as I have to make my living too! > I have to say (as I sit here and listen to tunes on my new Neuros player) I really like the Neuros way too. This thing is really nice. I'm planning on recording one of my band practices live tonight (stereo) using the Neuros and a little two channel Behringer mixer. Jan >Cheers,

19 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-user] XMMS Mono Silence

by Dave Silvester

Hi All, I'm asking this here, because it's something I've been stuck on for a while, and just haven't ever managed to find a solution for. Whenever I try to play mono files (doesn't matter if it's ogg, mp3, wav, whatever) in XMMS, all I get is silence. This was the same with the Beep Media Player and was also the same before I got my Audiophile 2496 and was using my motherboard's built-in soundcard with XMMS. I just can't seem to playback mono files in any of the media players I like. They seem to work in Juk, but I think that's because it's non-Alsa? In XMMS, I'm using the Alsa 1.2.10 output plugin, with "pcm.analogout" as my audio device - works great for stereo files, just not for mono. So, essentially I think I have some kind of Alsa problem that prevents me hearing mono files played back in XMMS. Ring any bells for anyone? Cheers for your help, and I hope I'm just being a dumb-ass! ;-D ~Dave -- Dave Silvester Music Technology Junkie | Rentable Website Monkey http://www.mu-sly.co.uk | http://www.rentamonkey.com

19 years, 5 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:48 , Rick Taylor <RickTaylor(a)speakeasy.net> sent: >On Sunday 12 December 2004 09:55 am, Jan Depner wrote: >> On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 09:17, Mark Knecht wrote: >> > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:03:40 +0100, Esben Stien executiv(a)online.no> >wrote: >> > > Frank Barknecht fbar(a)footils.org> writes: >> > > > So basically they want to protect their investment in getting >> > > > knowledge of how to implement a powerful firewire interface from the >> > > > eyes of other hardware manufacturers. >> > > >> > > A society where you put money higher than cooperating with other >> > > people is not a good society, in my opinion. >> > >> > Socialism - it ain't pretty... >> >> Really. I was going to point out that that is exactly what Karl Marx >> (or was that Groucho) said. You can see how well that worked out. >> >> Jan > >Yeah... it's one of the most pervasive and influential concepts in modern >politics. Aspects of it are implemented in almost every country on the face >of the earth. > Q. Why do all the really successful, accomplished, talented people leave Sweden? A. Can you say socialism? I knew you could. Q. Why don't many of the world's great doctors live in Canada. A. Can you say socialized medicine? I knew you could. Q. Why should I work harder than the next guy if I only get as much as he does? A. I shouldn't. Q. What would I do if I didn't have bills to pay? A. I wouldn't work. Q. Why should I listen to political lectures from twenty-somethings (or thirty-somethings for that matter)? A. I shouldn't (but sometimes I need a good laugh ;-) I tend to agree with Lee and Mark. I fervently believe that every able-bodied person has the inalienable right to starve to death if he/she doesn't want to work. TANSTAAFL. Let the flames begin ;-) Jan

19 years, 5 months

[linux-audio-user] adm: list archives at eca.cx going away

by Kai Vehmanen

Hello, this is not an urgent issue, but I'd like to warn in advance that the laa/lad/lau list archiving at www.eca.cx/la[adu] will stop some time next year. I'm not sure of the exact date, but sooner or later anyway. Note that I'm not going to take the existing archives offline, so all links pointing to mails at eca.cx will still work. Fortunately we nowadays have many other archives of the lists. We just now need to pick a new official archive and update the links at: http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/archive.php3 I propose that we use the archives at columbia.edu: http://www.music.columbia.edu/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/ ... and so on. Very good archives can also be found at gmane.org: http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.linux.audio.devel ... and so on. -- http://www.eca.cx Audio software for Linux!

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Linux-audio-user December 2004