Joshua Boyd wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 01:11:05PM +0200, schoappied wrote:
>
>> And what about the combination with a audiophile 24/96 pci and a little
>> mackie mixer like this one? http://www.thomann.de/nl/mackie_402_vlz3.htm
>>
>> How does this compare to for example a delta 1010lt or a firewire interface?
>>
>
> If all you want is 2 in and out with mic pres, I would say that is a
> fair way to go.
>
> If you buy this mixer, you may find yourself wanting a slightly better
> on though. If you use the mixer strictly for mic pre-amps, then it is
> fine.
>
> If you are willing to consider Behringer brand (some people hate them),
> you could get a bit more mixer for a bit less money from that web wite
> with the XENYX 802. The Soundcraft Classic 4 also looks better, and
> that is a great brand. I haven't used either of these specific mixers
> though.
>
> Personally, I have an 10 channel Yamaha unit, which is about $20 more
> than the Mackie you mention, but I believe that mine has been
> discontinued. I would have gone for the Behringer, but I put off buying
> anything until I needed it the next day and the Yamaha was what I could
> find locally.
>
>
> However, looked that the same web site, I see that ART TUBE MPs
> (http://www.thomann.de/nl/art_tube_mp.htm) are 39 eur each. These are
> dedicated tube pre-amps, and you can hook them up directly to a 2496,
> and they will probably sound a good bit better than the Mackie does.
> I've used Mackies with their VLZ preamps, and I am not particularly
> impressed by them. I haven't tried the ARTs yet, but no one seems to
> dislike them, and they are very cheap. I probably will buy a pair
> sometime this year.
>
>
I think I was the only one which got this message, but some interesting
suggestions, and I like comments of others...
People who has experience with the suggested mixers?
People who has experience or a opinion about the ART TUBE MPs?
http://www.thomann.de/nl/art_tube_mp.htm
Thanks,
Dirk
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Al Thompson <biggles58(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Loki Davison <loki.davison(a)gmail.com>
> To: schoappied <schoappied(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: Al Thompson <biggles58(a)sbcglobal.net>;
> Linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [LAU] hardware: recording voice and acc. guitar
>
>>wow. This is so wrong it hurts... You say phantom power not possible
>>from a pci slot or computer power supply but with usb mixer? ARRG! USB
>>is a great way to plug in your mouse. For audio, go pci, or if you
>>can't got pci, firewire or pcmcia.
>>
>>10 channel in 14 out. and yes, to Al, ......... phantom power on both
>>mic pre's from a pci card! wow.... like standard... The linux mixer
>
> Just out of curiosity, where is the 48V coming from? There is no 48V
> available internally. There is 12V, if you want to limit yourself to AKG
> and Shure mics, but I wouldn't want to draw that much current from a
> computer supply.
>
>>usb = crap. Oh, just in case you missed it. I think usb is a bad choice.
>
> What's your dislike of USB? You can do 2x2 even over USB 1.1. Until the
> latest version of the Firewire standard, it couldn't hold a candle to USB.
>
>
> FYI - in my project studio, I use a pair of 1010 PCI cards (which also
> refuse to work simultaneously under Linux). I just thought the goal here
> was to find something inexpensive, versatile, easy to use, with lots of
> features (which is why I use a USB mixer at home). If the goal was to have
> many ins and outs, 192/96 AD/DAs, and lightpipes, I'd have suggested
> something different.
>
>
> Forget it, I guess my opinion's not welcome here.
>
>
>
Of course your opinion is welcome. It's just the fact that many pci
cards do phantom power fine and within spec for any phantom powered
mic. I can't see how usb has anything better for this. Usb for audio
has a pile of problems technically. It's latency is bad, channel count
is low and in that case it was more expensive than the option i
showed. The echo mixer and envy mixer apps for pci cards are also
really nice with good VU's and easy direct routing. I don't think at
any point even for laptops usb was the best solution as pcmcia layla's
etc exist. I'm sorry if I sounded like an arse though ;) I just had an
annoying usb card for a long time and get vengeful if i think about
it....
Loki
Quoting J M Needham <J.M.Needham(a)bath.ac.uk>:
> Intel-HDA I assume? Try 3 periods per buffer (obviously unlike every
> other
> card on the Earth and the moon). Works pretty well* with that on my
> toshiba with Intel HDA. Although I am looking for a good firewire card at
> the
> moment. Doesn't work with any powers of 2 almost at all (managed to
> start
> it with 2ppb once with 64 ms latency)
On my laptop (Dell D820), the card worked really well with a few driver
parameters, 3 periods and certain mixer settings (=selecting an input source
for capturing). Alas, this was with alsa 1.0.14 (or something). I'm
currently unable to run jackd with a newer version of alsa.
I'm not bothered by that though, it works well enough for youtube. I have a
real sound interface for serious work. I have done interesting measurements
with the card though. Like getting more noise on the inputs with mixer
levels at 0 than with raising the mixer levels just a bit above it. That and
the AD unit totally misbehaving when running in 192kHz.
Sampo
hi
i am going to buy a Firewire card, probably FA-66 or FA101 but i also
need a PCMCIA card for my laptop and i knwo that some cards are better
than others, which ones should i avoid and what is the absolut
preferred card to buy?
Thanks
Simone
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After following the thread here about laptop survival rates live, I've decided to roll my own ruggedized embedded softsynth box:
http://www.restivo.org/blog/archives/a-more-portable-setup
I'd appreciate any advice anyone here might have to share regarding this adventure.
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-ken
Hi,
I'm trying to get an edirol fa-66 working on debian (etch & lenny). It
seems that I have a working jackd + freebob setup, but the card is never
found;
> 17:13:26.526 /usr/local/bin/jackd -v -R -P70 -dfreebob -r44100 -p1024 -n3 -i0 -o0
> 17:13:26.528 JACK was started with PID=8625 (0x21b1).
> getting driver descriptor from /usr/local/lib/jack/jack_oss.so
> getting driver descriptor from /usr/local/lib/jack/jack_alsa.so
> getting driver descriptor from /usr/local/lib/jack/jack_dummy.so
> getting driver descriptor from /usr/local/lib/jack/jack_freebob.so
> jackd 0.109.2
> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
> jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
> JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
> server `default' registered
> registered builtin port type 32 bit float mono audio
> registered builtin port type 8 bit raw midi
> clock source = system clock via clock_gettime
> loading driver ..
> Freebob using Firewire port 0, node -1
> new client: freebob_pcm, id = 1 type 1 @ 0x806fe98 fd = -1
> new buffer size 1024
> LibFreeBoB MSG: FreeBoB Streaming Device Init
> LibFreeBoB MSG: > LibFreeBoB MSG: Device information:
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Device options:
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Port : 0
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Device Node Id : -1
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Samplerate : 44100
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Period Size : 1024
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Nb Buffers : 3
> LibFreeBoB MSG: Directions : 0
> Root node has no children!
> Root node has no children!
> FreeBoB ERR: FREEBOB: Error creating virtual device
> cannot load driver module freebob
When started from terminal with the card attached, gscanbus does no
start, instead it gets a black window while the console spits lots of
IEEE1394 resource temporarily unavailable. Just turning off the card is
enough to get rid of errors and gscanbus finally works ... To show an
empty firewire ohci device :(
Tried it on three different systems, with kernels
2.6.21/2.6.23/2.6.24.2. Debian Etch / Lenny. Same problem again and again
Any ideas?
TIA,
Roman
Dear all,
So, I've just upgraded to Ubuntu HH, and I'm using the Linux
2.6.24-17-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT kernel on a toshiba laptop with dual core
2.6 GHz processors and 2G of ram, and an intel HDA
I have compiled Ardour 2.4.1 from source with FREESOUND=1 as my only
option. My first problem is that it's using 74% of my CPU just sitting
there. [Anyone else find this?]
I've checked that my system corresponds to this page
http://tapas.affenbande.org/wordpress/?page_id=40 (as this was how I used
to have it set up) and it corresponds, but I'm getting 5% CPU usage from
Jack just sitting doing nothing.
Anyone got any ideas?
Hi,
I've bought a m-audio audiophile 24/96 and a mic shure sm 58 beta
(thanks for your advices ;) ).
I also have a epiphone les paul elekt. guitar with a orange crush 30 r
amplifier.
Now I want to be able to record voice and guitar, so I need a preamp...
(or a mixer, if that's better)
My budget is around 100 euro, but don't be to strict on that, maybe I'll
can get some things second hand...
I was thinking about these things, but Giuseppe, was telling that the
art tubes are not a really good choice:
- http://www.thomann.de/nl/art_tube_mp_project_series.htm
What about the alternative in this area?
- audio buddy: http://www.thomann.de/nl/m-audio_audio_buddy.htm
- Studio Projects VTB1 : http://www.thomann.de/nl/studio_projects_vtb1.htm
What are good preamps? Are there good preamps in the range of 100 - 250
euro? (Maybe I'll can get some second hand).
Thanks in advance,
Dirk
hi,
i installed 64studio with his kernel 2.6.21 and got 4 graphic-cards working (1
agp, 3 pci). now i upgraded to 2.6.25.4 and my s3virge cards
do not work. X-log sais "no modes found" and the displays say "unsupported
frequences". in the logs i saw "insufficient memory". i don't know where the
problem is. before i did a "make oldconfig" i copied the 2.6.21-config into my
kernel-source 2.6.25.4 as ".config". if i use only one graphiccard (s3virge)
this card works.
can someone send me his kernel-config to compare whats wrong in my config?
many thanks!
mike
p.s.: i wanted to attach some logs but the moderator didn't like IT :-(
>My budget is around 100 euro, but don't be to strict on that,
>maybe I'll
>can get some things second hand...
>
>I was thinking about these things, but Giuseppe, was telling that
>the
>art tubes are not a really good choice:
>
>- http://www.thomann.de/nl/art_tube_mp_project_series.htm
>
>What about the alternative in this area?
>
>- audio buddy: http://www.thomann.de/nl/m-audio_audio_buddy.htm
I got an Audio Buddy for free when I bought some MXL condenser mics
at Guitar Center. The mics were $100 bundled and the Audio Buddy,
which I wasn't even expecting to get, is about $120 here in the
states. I love the Audio Buddy, it's a good, discreet, stereo,
solid state preamp. The mics on the other hand...not too good.
>(Maybe I'll can get some second hand).
I always try to get things second hand if I can. You'll save so
much money and usually get gear that is in great shape if you look
hard.
Roger
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